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7 Soldiers

 
  

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LDones
01:41 / 26.10.06
Only a possible crossword answer makes us think that, Sparrow. Nothing direct.

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I just realized JHW3 did the coloring as well as the pencils and inks, which goes a long way toward explaining why the thing's as stylistically effective as it is, combining dead-on mimicry with bold originality in really stimulating ways. That big Klarion splash page in the latter half of the book is dead-on Irving-meets-Bianchi, and I adore how different characters in the same scene retain their styles-of-origin even while in panel with one another. The Klarion storybook pages, complete with fantasy children's stage-show backdrops were perfect. The Cameron impressions with the horse and with Baby Brain's face were pretty impressive to me, and the coloring technique replication is a big part of that.

A really phenomenal work on the art chores, all from one guy. I remain very impressed.

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As in the mini, pay attention to panel border-colors when Shiloh is around.

Fun throwaway bits are the Secret Origins of Hannah Control and (possibly) Comet The Super-Horse (no joke).

That final page is like a fucking mission statement.

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Grady Hendrix
02:04 / 26.10.06
Oh god. Zor? Who the heck is that? I read the miniseries as they came out but I guess I didn't study them hard enough. Back to study hall...
 
 
Billuccho!
02:38 / 26.10.06
I'd now like to say that I'm pretty sure I loved this issue. It's like a rollercoaster for your brain.

JHW3! I must tell you-- this is the most fantastic art I've seen in comics all year. Your skills are uncanny, and your mimickry is excellent. I counted twelve different styles. My mind? Blown. I bow to you, sir.

I can't wait until all you jolly Brits (and poor Americans whose shops won't get this in till next week because of the shipping errors) really get down to picking it apart. I'd like to think I have quite a bit figured out, but there's so much stuff crammed into this one that I know I'm still missing tons.

My faith in the G-Mozz: restored.
 
 
Eskay Uno
03:44 / 26.10.06
I'm bloody loving this issue. It gets better with each reread.

JHW3 - your work is indeed outstanding! Truly great. Your colours, your variations in style, inventive storytelling/unique panel layots - all are deserving of massive praise. I can't wait for your next collaboration with GM.
 
 
Mario
09:37 / 26.10.06
Zor = Terrible Time Tailor, and a really obscure Spectre villain.
 
 
Sniv
12:13 / 26.10.06
Well done for keeping this thread spoiler free, people. I can't get this until Friday, and I'm wetting my pants in anticipation, and I've only come across one accidental spoiler elsewhere on the net (made me want to wash my eyes out for seeing it). Keep saying how great it is though, by all means.

Perhaps a second SPOILER thread should be made for discussion of the final issue, at least for a week or so until everyone is on board.
 
 
Axel Lambert
12:20 / 26.10.06
It is now available on Demonoid
 
 
CameronStewart
12:54 / 26.10.06
Funny that in a thread where two of the Seven Soldiers artists have made an appearance, you'd mention and basically endorse illegal download....
 
 
ghadis
12:58 / 26.10.06
Yea Christmas, ya stingy sod, put your hand in your pocket and go and buy a copy!

Which is just what i'm out the door to do now. Hooray!
 
 
CameronStewart
12:59 / 26.10.06
To JHW3 - I didn't mean to suggest that I thought you were "dissing" me or anything, it was just a strange experience for me, seeing my own work through the eyes of another person, particularly someone whose work I respect and admire as much as yours. Thanks for the kind words though!
 
 
ginger
13:37 / 26.10.06
the milk in the coffee machine at work was off today, and i downed an entire cup without realising, but seven soliders #1 appears to have cured me. if i'd fallen into a threshing machine, i'm pretty sure my lower body'd be well on the way to growing back, too. joy.
 
 
The Falcon
14:04 / 26.10.06
Well, this is maybe the best comic ever, then. One in the eye for those who said the series 'sucked' and its' author 'bit', I'd imagine.

Anyway, the crossword, which I stopped briefly to puzzle on whilst reading - I was stuck on Abednigo (never heard the name) - but otherwise Mario's got most of it. 4 & 5 D are 'be' and 'do', as in the song 'Strangers in the Night' and 9 A is open ('win[o pen]intent') 'Oast'? Dude, WTF?

So:

A 1 - Lena 3 - Bomb (Bors fits the clue less well, I feel) 4 - Badde 7 - Gloriana 9 - Open
D 1- Loa 2 - Abednigo 4 - Be 5 - Do 6 - Lance 7 - GM 8 - One
 
 
The Falcon
14:09 / 26.10.06
Only a possible crossword answer makes us think that, Sparrow. Nothing direct.

Incidentally - come on, guy. A whole 25 year career of putting avatars of himself in his comics, the fact the 7UM look exactly like the chap on the cover of that last Animal Man trade. What else could the crossword answer conceivably be?
 
 
sn00p
14:14 / 26.10.06
that. was. amazing.
 
 
The Natural Way
14:22 / 26.10.06
Yes. Enormous fun. As I knew it would be. The picture of King Klarionmoth was fucking hilarious and terrifying in equal measure. Now, Grant, how about Shining Knight and Klarion books, please? Don't leave them for other writers to *play with* because they will just make them very shit.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
15:08 / 26.10.06
Shining Knight! Shining bloody Knight!

I would have been happier, I admit, if her name was Ystine, not Ystina.

Klarion freaks me the fuck out now.

And Misty! And I love that Zatanna is completely incapable of thinking about her emotional problems without framing it as all-but-fourth-wall-breaking plot commentary.

But, still a few more days before everyone gets this and we can spoil, spoil, spoil.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
15:24 / 26.10.06
TOMORROW. I SHALL HAVE IT.

If you are all lying and playing with my emotions so cruelly, I swear I'll wee on all your sofas.
 
 
Mario
15:41 / 26.10.06
Abednigo (also spelled Abednego, which threw me off for a bit) was one of the three companions of the prophet Daniel who survived being thrown into a furnace. The other two were Mesach... and Shadrach.

Also note that Abednigo is pronounced similarily to "A bad ego".

As for the receptive wino.... no clue. Do any of these sound promising?

OBEY
OMEN
OPEN
OWEN
OVEN
OVER
 
 
Malio
15:50 / 26.10.06
LDones is surely correct that 3 Across is Bors - "orbs rearranged".
 
 
Mario
15:52 / 26.10.06
In that case, Falc is probably right about BE, DO, and OPEN.
 
 
CameronStewart
15:53 / 26.10.06
Falconer already conifrmed it as "Open" - the word found "contained" in "winO PENitent" and meaning a "receptive state of mind."

I'm not so sure about Lena....someone explain the reasoning for that answer to me?
 
 
The Falcon
15:57 / 26.10.06
Lena = 'hidden in the whoLE NAme'

Yer right about Bors, though, Mario. I think I might actually fill mine in.
 
 
Mario
16:10 / 26.10.06
Plus, Lena and Lars are the only twins seen in the Guardian Heights building.
 
 
Mario
16:17 / 26.10.06
This (very old) joke is possibly relevant:

PHILOSOPHICAL GRAFFITI

"To do is to be."
-Socrates
"To be is to do."
-Plato
"Do be do be do."
-Frank Sinatra

(the first two names vary, but you get the idea)
 
 
CameronStewart
16:18 / 26.10.06
Oh, duh, I was looking at "Guardian Heights" and not "Whole Name."

But Suzi is their mother? Lars and Lena were described as blonde, blue-eyed Aryan types...odd genes for being children of a Chinese mother and a black father.
 
 
Quimper
16:25 / 26.10.06
Yay. Crossword is solved!

I'd like to discuss one soldier's peripheral plot and his/her possible replacement by another character as one of the 7S, once everyone has their textbooks.

And gutter space.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
16:49 / 26.10.06
I still think there's something to be said for the "Secret Soldiers" theory.

And finally a certain disconnected module hooks up into the mainstream...
 
 
Mug Chum
16:59 / 26.10.06
Is it possible that [7 - one of Seven Unknown Men (2)] is not only "GM", but "ME" as well?

(in my readings of 7S, and Moz's works, this is a important recurrent thing)
 
 
Mario
17:03 / 26.10.06
Doesn't fit the puzzle.

Anyone recognize the name "H.S. Johnson"?
 
 
Tom Coates
17:20 / 26.10.06
God that was good. I've mostly got a grasp on it, but it needs some serious dissection.
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
17:26 / 26.10.06
Is it possible that [7 - one of Seven Unknown Men (2)] is not only "GM", but "ME" as well?

That could mean 'ME' as in Grantby Morisoni, or 'ME' as in Me, Phex (or rather my real name, Chest Ironshaft). Both GM the writer and me the reader are required to 'keep the fabric of the universe from fraying' by making sure the story comes together, on the page and in the heads of readers.
 
 
Mug Chum
17:38 / 26.10.06
d) all the answers above.
 
 
LDones
18:12 / 26.10.06
Lars and Lena were described as blonde, blue-eyed Aryan types...odd genes for being children of a Chinese mother and a black father.

The slightly creepy thing this crossword answer implied to me was that the father was not who it might have seemed. Which of the Newsboys had blond hair and blue eyes? The one who sheltered them and the one they took care of in his old age.

Shudder-inducing, but it certainly makes sense, thematically and story-wise.
 
 
COBRAnomicon!
18:26 / 26.10.06
Which of the Newsboys had blond hair and blue eyes?

Whoa. Nasty, if you're correct.

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So, whither Frankenstein? His exit from the stage seemed muddled to me, and I'm hoping I missed some subtle cue as to his next step.
 
 
Mario
18:29 / 26.10.06
Frankie is under Klarion's control, as Klarion got his hands on one of those glowing hex things. So he must be at Summer's End, waiting for Klarion to make a mistake....
 
  

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