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15:44 / 18.11.04

I have heard all music. And I am right. You are like a child.

Bollocks! I think there was a mistake there anyway Seth, I wasn't directing any post further up at you, I was directing them both at Harrison, that's possibly why I posted again and actually said Harrison in my post.

I thought that might happen.

Anyone heard The Distillers? Do THEY sound dead?!

I'll answer myself : No, they don't.

16:00 / 18.11.04

I'm starting to side with Harrison on this one- come on Frosty

she looks like a zombie............

Haus of Mystery

16:07 / 18.11.04

Look, it's simple. Rock is dead because the invention of the synthesiser and the drum machine have made rock bands redundant. Nothing new can be done with this outmoded music that the Beatles haven't already done in the 50's. FACT.

Dance is progressive, active and futuristic and rock is dead.

Like the dinosaurs.

16:07 / 18.11.04

EACH TO THEIR OWN.

Rock music has pulled me through many dark times, your wasting your time if you think I'm ever going to agree. Like I said, each to their own.

And Brody looks like a zombie? My sister looks like a zombie?!

It's very hard not to take that personally.

Haus of Mystery

16:17 / 18.11.04

Get with the future programme, dad.

16:33 / 18.11.04

Nothing new can be done with this outmoded music that the Beatles haven't already done in the 50's. FACT.

What the hell are you talking about? That's a ridiculous statement. It depends on what you do with the guitar, it's so easy to grasp aswell. Original music can still be written, it's in the stupidly obvious fact that the combinations of chords and notes that can be put together to make a song are endless, infinite. Has anyone ever heard of an effects pedal aswell? New guitar music is also being made/written that sounds new because of effects pedals and the new sounds that can be made from them.

Besides the point anyway, synthesizers and drum machines don't equal the death of the guitar. That's one of the craziest things I've ever heard. If the combinations of chords and notes that can be played on a guitar are limitless then how the hell can a couple of new machines signal the death of it?

Dance is progressive, active and futuristic and rock is dead.

Like the dinosaurs.

That makes about as much sense as dumping all your books just because you can have e-books. Or dumping the yin because the yang looks shiny and bright. They are two different things that stand alone. Remember that I really love dance music aswell here, I can't even believe I'm having this argument.

It's your stereotypical view of what 'rock' music is that is doing this surely. There's a completely different way of writing music with a guitar than there is with a synthesizer, or a keyboard or whatever. The feedback and distortion sounds that can be mixed with bending, dampening, hammering different strings, making riffs etc, that when mixed with different types of amps/guitar effects pedals etc make something that would take a stupid, stupid, stupid long time to recreate on a computer to put onto a sythesizer or a keyboard.

Even if it could be done (which is a crazy thing to even comprehend) it still comes down to the fact that many people still wouldn't use it because some people just prefer using a guitar.

Rock isn't dead, even if every member of this site screams it out aloud, it's not gonna happen.

Long after this planet is gone, and maybe even this universe, beings on other planes will be using guitars.

Rock is eternal.

16:35 / 18.11.04

another zombie (spot the difference)

16:38 / 18.11.04

16:43 / 18.11.04

Rock is eternal.
Bolded for truth.

I'm listening to Guitar Wolf as I'm typing, and I can't understand how a genre based on living can be considered dead. Play a power chord on a guitar, do a couple quick hammer-ons on bass, kick the kick drum, put your soul through a mic, and then tell me you feel anything other than ALIVE.

Go to a rock show, the kids know the truth: Rock is Life, and It will NEVER die!

16:52 / 18.11.04

Regrettable Juvenilia

16:52 / 18.11.04

Neon shade: can you understand when anyone is joking, ever? Like, if I said - say, "Woah, is that Brody Dahle, from Australia - I had no idea she'd made that whole music thing work for her! We were an item in the mid-90s but we split up because she didn't like my Photek records. Have you guys heard Photek? He rules!" - would you take me seriously?

The resistable rise of Reidcourchie

17:39 / 18.11.04

It can be difficult to tell with you.

17:40 / 18.11.04

Neon shade: can you understand when anyone is joking, ever?

Yeah this is just a sore point with me though. Seeing as rock music has saved my ass more times than I can remember I guess I just get hyped a little easily on this subject. Also the fact that I thought loads of people would start trying to write long, intellectual posts about how rock music will die and be stupidly wrong, and it would probably wind me up something stupid having to read them, seeing as rock music is more of an emotional thing that can't be explained in words.

Anyhow, I've had my fun here and am about done with this thread.

17:49 / 18.11.04

Originally posted by Neon shade: That's a ridiculous statement. It depends on beings on other planes. The yang looks shiny and bright if every member of this site screams it out aloud like the dinosaurs. That makes about as much sense as dumping all your books just because of effects pedals and the new sounds that can be made from them.

Who's the one making ridiculous statements now, Neon shade? At least those in favour of the death of rock can construct a coherent argument based on actual evidence, as proven by the rest of this thread. By comparison the above excerpt shows you burbling and farting your way through a stinky life.

Kisses to the bollocks, my friend.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

17:51 / 18.11.04

Guitar Wolf!

GUITAAAAARRR WOOOLLLFFFF!!!

They complicate the issue, actually, because not only do they ROCK HARD, they also kill zombies. With ROCK.

17:57 / 18.11.04

Rock is Dad?

18:12 / 18.11.04

Who's the one making ridiculous statements now, Neon shade? At least those in favour of the death of rock can construct a coherent argument based on actual evidence, as proven by the rest of this thread.

Who needs a construct a coherent argument when the thread is about the 'death of rock'?

By comparison the above excerpt shows you burbling and farting your way through a stinky life.

I don't really care to be honest Seth, if your going to say that I burble and fart my way through a stinky life based on that post then I think that's a bit sad. I wonder why you didn't pick up the point about there being endless combinations of chords and notes available to the guitar player though? Argument over? C'mon Seth, your being a bit harsh here.

Kisses to the bollocks, my friend.

Yep, kisses indeed.

I'm off to listen to some...........yep, you guessed it. I do actually stink a little aswell.

Haus of Mystery

21:21 / 18.11.04

Whatever dude. You're like some grieving widow who can't accept her husband (ROCK) is dead.

Brigade du jour

21:32 / 18.11.04

So where do Republica fit into all this?

21:54 / 18.11.04

"Whoah, is that Brody Dahl from Australia ? I had no idea she'd made that music thing work for her ! We were an item in the mid-Nineties... Would you take me seriously ? "

Well I can't speak for Bob Frost here, but personally, yes, very.

She's a righteous babe !

There's this awkward thing about the so-called restraining order that's cramping my style, but man, if you could put a word in the next time Brody's in town, I'll be your wing man, for sure, when the Eric Pryde dancers do their January tour of ice rinks and so on, my great uncle Neil is masterminding the shows.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

22:09 / 18.11.04

Does anybody... well, anybody, like, OLD, wanna join my Men Without Hats tribute band? We're gonna be like Men Without Hats, but, like, wearing hats. I'm thinking of calling us Men With Hats.

We're gonna do "The Danger Dance"...

You can rock if you want to
If you leave your friends behind
Cuz your friends don't rock
And if they don't rock
Then they're no friends of mine

05:54 / 19.11.04

God, you kids are so on the edge. Back in my day, they used to call that The Safety Dance.

06:40 / 19.11.04

Oh, I see now. Sorry.

ONLY NICE THINGS

07:42 / 19.11.04

Just so you know, Flyboy, I take your attempts to renew the spark with MY GIRLFRIEND BRODY DAHL very. Seriously. Indeed.

08:13 / 19.11.04

But Haus, all of Brody's interviews - I've got them in front of me, so I should know... in fact they are all around me, I decided to *redecorate* the old place the other week - refer to a mystery man from the early-to-mid Nineties, when I suppose she was still at school, who she's been the inspiration for all of her albums since then.

I just don't know how you're going to compete.

08:21 / 19.11.04

You're missing the obvious there, Alex.

08:24 / 19.11.04

Rock isn't dead. In fact, Rock is fighting back. Proof presented in the form of this picture of secret agent Fender05 sabotaging the turntables at an undisclosed location in Ibiza:

08:46 / 19.11.04

Sax, I... I'll admit to being possibly a bit overinvested in this as an issue, but what would be this thing of which you speak.

09:01 / 19.11.04

i want to marry everyone on this thread....

cept you fireman, you can only be the paige-dog, because i'm araid your knowledge of ROCK'n'roll mythology is as smart as sulphate cooked up in a motorbike chassis.

everyone knows ROCK killed itself in 1967 after spending an afternoon locked in a limo with david bowie and jimmy plant. aladdin stardust wrote a song about it on his album the laughing white-duke, released in the same year. the song's called 'ROCK died a DANCE suicide' and is the most touching song of the post-punk era, sounding like choirs of god's satanic angels and sulphate cooked up in a motorbike chassis. look for it on slsk. but don't think you're cool when you hear it, that whole ROCK thing's long over, didn't you know?

seriously fireman, all joking aside, there are some amazing acts you NEED to get into before all this ROCK kills your brain like sulphate cooked up in a motorbike chassis. dude, go look for these phuturephre$h DANCE acts now: Watusi, Foxtrotter, Tan-Go!, Charles Stun, da frugs, or Carioca. you will not regret falling in love with the life-changing thrills of cheap e and 4x4 beatnology. evolve or die, man.

Haus of Mystery

09:59 / 19.11.04

I'll add to that list if I may:
The Phuture Phresh Beat Conspiracy
DJ Ebola-disco
Baked Alaska
and my favourite all time DJ double act:
DJ Hawkeye Pierce & Trapper John. They fucking rool.

Rock is Dead. Long live DANCE, it's superior successor.

Harrison Ford, in a battle suit, wheels for feet, knives and guns

10:12 / 19.11.04

Look,

It's not like people aren't making good rock music anymore or innovative rock music for that matter, however the recent "trend" for rock music is DEAD. Of course it still exists & people like it, but it's just not the hot new thing anymore; dance music is back. Gutted rockers, but it is.

ROCK IS DEAD.

Dance music may die one day, but it's doubtfull, that's not my opinion it's scientific fact.

All i can hear is people going on about how Rock isn't dead because they love. Well i still love DISCO but it died and i've dealt with it.

Surely we can all learn from that. Can't we?

lord nuneaton savage

10:43 / 19.11.04

Apologies if I missed someone explaining this but when you say rock do you mean "bands with guitars" or do you mean ROCK!? Y'know ROCK! Like Budgie, Saxon, WASP an' stuff?

'Cos those bands are pretty different from, say, The Strokes, and I can't seem to leave the house these days without some be-fringed jacket and jeans Henry plying his wares before me.

Guitars are tools for use by musicians. They are as likely to become extinct as carpenters are to stop using hammers. (that's slightly muddled but you get the point, I hope).

Certain folks are always going to be attracted to the idea of sitting with a guitar and writing a nice ditty, I've used pro-tools and "traditional" instruments and you can't beat the latter for immediacy. They are just quicker to get ideas down on.

Plus it's been a brilliant year for rock music, from Comets on Fire to RTX. It'll go in and out of popularity, sure, but reports of it's death are, as always, premature.

Oh, and the earlier post, when I mentioned U2 and tha', was a little facetious. I still find this argument hard to take seriously.

Doesn't stop me wanting to TRAMPLE THE OPPOSITION though.

10:48 / 19.11.04

Guitars are tools for use by musicians. They are as likely to become extinct as carpenters are to stop using hammers.

actually most pro carpenters use electronic 'hammer slammers' these days- much more accurate so i'm told, and saves on sore thumbs...

Haus of Mystery

11:03 / 19.11.04

Sorry, but it's true.

Harrison Ford, in a battle suit, wheels for feet, knives and guns

11:05 / 19.11.04

Aahh Carpenters. Soon to be replaced by robotic machines from the scary future where guitars are still viewed as antiques from a more primitive age.

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