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Seaguy #3

 
  

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Sensual Cobra
18:42 / 04.09.04
Indeed that is what I meant. Lost an "http://" in there somehow.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
10:37 / 05.09.04
RIP ( good name, incidentally, ) - You're not from Wales by any chance, are you ?
 
 
Sensual Cobra
23:28 / 05.09.04
Nope, I'm from Pittsburgh currently. Home of Videodrome.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
00:00 / 06.09.04
You know, I'm really pleased to find out it wasn't just me who did that with the Superman logo! Although, embarassingly, I don't think I consciously realised there was even an S there until I was about 19, or something similarly absurd.

Bet it says something about, uh, how visual yr brain is or, like, something. All I see is shapes man! And you see numbers! Gnarly.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
22:00 / 06.09.04
when I took drawing classes we had to try color schemes on a panel featuring interconnected "H"s so we toyed with hot and cold tones and played them around to infer movement. everybody but a japanese girl played with shapes; she played with empty spaces around the Hs, so I guess the oriental/artistic brain can be wired differently, depending on your visual education.

I only managed to read it today, Cameron. great, great stuff! you and Grant deserve all the praise! eveybody else has already chimed in with their best analysis onthe series. and I'm also rather upset of the sales numbers not being what DC expected. but if they had taken the time to promote this a little more... Lady and the others who wrote DC only wants Grant on Sperman are dead on. if SEAGUY had been launched as a GN [Grant's original plan, wasn't it?] maybe it would have performed better, after all 20.000 is a great Diamond figure for a book [I recall].

I want to suggest - as soon as the trade solicitation comes out - we start a sort of SEAGUY guerrilla/evengelism campaign using Warren Ellis/James Sime enthusiastic and FanboyRage-free techniches.

don't let Mickey Eye buy you out! =P

let's use its money to turn the moon once more...
 
 
dreamdancer
13:40 / 07.09.04
I read some of this threat yesterday and mostly remember the discussion about Seaguy winking on the last page of #3:
was it sugesting that Seaguy remembered his adventure with Chubby, and therefore Chubby himself, or was he properly brain-washed, is happy now and has no memory of the happenings? etc. etc.
While I don't remember who sugested the above, I do know that I tend to the later conclusion. But for me Seaguy's winking has nothing to do with this.
It's just Seaguy showing us that he is cheating death again; and the same way as before.
Just look at the last panel of #3 page 31. Seaguy says:
"So how about I start on black."
And then on page 32, 1st panel:
"And you can be white."
This shows us that deat still hasn't understood the game.
(Doesn't he say in #1 on page 3 in the 3rd panel "But...it seems so pointless. The Rules so arbitrary.")
Seaguy on the other hand understands at least one basic rule of chess: white always starts, not black.

The only possibility for me to see Seaguy's winking having another meaning in a deeper context, is in a reasuring way.
But, mind you, not in the way of whatever Mickey Eye might have done, I remember it all, but rather like bent, but not broken. (Which nicely reverses that old macho-bullshit phrase; nicely fitting in Morrison's worldview, I think.)

But even I have to admit that seeing the end of the first Seaguy arc in this context is quite strange, if Seaguy doesn't at least remember his adventure subconsciously.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
06:41 / 08.09.04
he DOES remember, even if only subconsciously. he can't forget Chubby!

even if Chubby is the condensation of his subconscious etc... I've always seen the good fella as Seaguy's ego or something very close to it: a counterpart commentator of Seaguy's actions, "always doing the opposite of what I tell him".

only after Chubby dies [we knew it from #1, didn't we?] that Seaguy is taken to the Moon. he had to be broken and lose a part of himself to receive the gift of the Moon's secret origin. and he's inspired by this lost part of himself, always "having to do it, at least for Chubby".
 
 
Sunny
04:37 / 12.09.04
so when is the next issue coming out? it is coming out right? does anyone know?
 
 
CameronStewart
14:22 / 12.09.04
The next issue will come out if sales figures for the trade collection (I believe due in January) are high enough. It pains me to write that, but that's currently how it is.
 
 
Sunny
19:00 / 12.09.04
fuck!


thanks for the heads up Cameron. if we keep sending letters for them to bring it back would that help?
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
22:15 / 12.09.04
preorders - any orders, for that matter [Amazon etc] - speak louder than letters in DC's case. I suppose.
 
 
Triplets
22:56 / 12.09.04
Fuck, I really want to see Seaguy 4-9 but I've already GOT 1, 2 and 3 singularly. Why the fuck should I have to buy another set just to see the next installment?
 
 
CameronStewart
00:11 / 13.09.04
Triplets, there's no reason on earth why you should have to. This particular problem in the comics business is maddening and it honestly makes me want to put my fist through the wall at times. Unfortunately though, DC won't greenlight the rest of the series without evidence that there's a market for it, and in all depressing likelihood the trade will sell in lower numbers (at least initially) than the monthly series, because of the many people who quite rightly will not want to buy the same thing twice.

Got any friends who might like Seaguy but probably wouldn't buy it for themselves? Makes a nice gift....:-(
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
03:04 / 13.09.04
Cameron, it won't sell badly if they promote it right, like they should have from start - by releasing it as a GN, not a mini...

in any case all is not lost. a small guerilla marketing stunt by all parts interested [us included] is a way to go. cheer up! chin up!
 
 
Sunny
03:56 / 13.09.04
the gift thing is a good idea. I agree, they SHOULD have promoted it better.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
23:50 / 15.09.04
To be honest, for the majority of my friends, I can't actually think of a better gift for any occasion... I'm sure I'll be buying a few copies of the trade.

Come on, kids... what better excuse to get your non-comics-reading friends into comics? It's something we've all told ourselves we'll do... let's do it for a good cause, eh?

Whatever happens with this, Cameron, at least know that I though SeaGuy fucking rocked. And I know I'm not the only one. As I've said before, you fuckers made me cry on a bus. And that's not a responsibility to be borne lightly.

MORE SEAGUY! NOW! Or I'll have to starte killing people... and that'll be messy, cos I've never done it before.
 
 
Dadaist
01:52 / 09.05.05
The other morning I saw an episode of "Max Headroom" very similar to Seaguy: a TV program which control peoples minds and emotions. In the screen: a lot of eyes and then in the center a complete ocular sphere eye like Mickey Eye, the name of the Tv show was similar too.
 
 
Mark Parsons
03:32 / 09.05.05
Are there any updates for SEAGUY? Did the trade sell OK? I bought the series & the trade, cuz that's what I do with books I really love (Moore, Morrison, Gaiman, etc).

Grant should blackmail DC to get Seaguy V2 & V3 going: he and Quitely could get some narsty tummy bug and thus delay All Star Superman until the Kryptonian cows come home. He’s a superstar, dammit! His ego needs assuaging! He is supposed to make demands!
 
 
Dan Fish - @Fish1k
13:38 / 09.05.05
Get DC to run Seaguy as a back-up in All-Star Superman!

That would certainly jumpstart sales of the first trade, if phase 2 was included in a massive-selling series.
 
 
CameronStewart
15:52 / 09.05.05
As far as Grant and I are concerned Seaguy isn't a lost cause just yet - a little while ago he was asking if I was still interested in doing more, to which I obviously replied "yes."

Thing is, after I wrap Guardian, I'm contracted to do a 5-issue Vertigo series, which will likely take me the better part of a year to do, so even if he does persuade DC to give us the green, you're looking at quite a wait for Seaguy Vol. 2...
 
 
The Falcon
19:16 / 09.05.05
Who's writing yer series, Cameron? Is it Milligan?

That'd be good.
 
 
Mark Parsons
06:38 / 10.05.05
Two years for SEAGUY V2? No problem. Maybe the Zenith collections will be out by then. And Flex Mentallo tpb. And Big Numbers #3...

Seriously, SEAGUY is a beaautiful thing and is worth any wait.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
08:25 / 10.05.05
Yeah, I can wait. (Obviously, I'd rather not have to, but if it turned out to be anywhere near as good as the first it'd be well worth it).

New Vertigo series, Cameron? I presume you're probably sworn to secrecy or something, but if not, any hints?
 
 
Jack Fear
11:09 / 10.05.05
Cameron has mentioned an upcoming creator-owned project that he'll be writing as well as drawing. I'm thinking this is it.
 
 
CameronStewart
15:22 / 10.05.05
Nope. I'm not writing this one, and the writer will likely be unfamiliar to everyone. I'd love to talk about it but since it hasn't been officially announced yet I don't feel comfortable saying much, other than it's 5 issues (though I think it'd be better as an OGN, but we'll see), creator-owned, and in a genre that I'd never have guessed I'd be doing.
 
 
Jack Fear
15:48 / 10.05.05
O-ho! The plot, she thickens.

Can't wait, brother.
 
 
FinderWolf
17:12 / 10.05.05
A Western? (just totally guessing)
 
 
CameronStewart
18:07 / 10.05.05
Don't bother guessing because even if you nail it, I won't tell you.

But it's not a western.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
19:11 / 10.05.05
I'm just wondering if it's still too early for a revival of Codename: Knockout.
 
 
matsya
00:21 / 11.05.05
Bogosian?

m.
 
 
CameronStewart
06:18 / 11.05.05
I said UNfamiliar.
 
  

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