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Seaguy #3

 
  

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illmatic
08:44 / 30.07.04
Isn’t it about this the time we sigilise? Perhaps we can we coordinate a mass collective charging? If DC knows the 5000 people are prepared to wank simultaneously for more comics they’ll be sure to release it? Right?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
09:04 / 30.07.04
Well, Cameron said the editor was "pulling for it"... (yes, I know the euphemism doesn't work so well for laydeez, but someone had to say it)...

Can we wait for November 23rd, like it was with The Invisibles? It's just it's my birthday, you see...

There MUST be more Seaguy. AND an animated movie. And I SO want a Seaguy T-shirt. (See what you've done, Cameron? You and George have turned me into a sad fucking fanboy. I hope you're satisfied. Bastards.)
 
 
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16:55 / 30.07.04
YIP! YIP! YIP! YIP! YIP! YIP!


I feel like i'm gonna get lynched here, buuut....

I don't know, i feel like Seaguy got fucked over at the end and i wanted to see him get one over them. I'm not disappointed with the story, but if it doesn't con....i didn't even say that, hopefully it will be continued and i'll love what comes next. When those, and i second the first person to comment on this, varriage i think, buckets came out of the sky and i saw the Jackal men, i read the next page or two, or three open mouthed, that was amazing. But then i got a little lost and thought that Seaguy was going to get more than he did, poor guy.

Cameron, the art was brilliant, i wasn't too sure in issue 1 but by the time i was reading 2 i realy liked it and 3 was fucking amazing. The story was cool and i suppose i'll have to read through again but i hate to think that captian birdseye got to take the piss in the way he did at the end.

The twat. That moon stuff kicked ass all over though, and why Vertigo are waiting on a decision at all i don't know.

It's just the waiting that hurts.
 
 
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18:17 / 30.07.04
I don't think i emphasised just how gobsmacked i was when those Jackal men appeared on the scene. I totally loved the whole Egyptian element.

Any problems i have with .....had where completely my own fault for expecting a conclusion to everything by the end of this issue.
 
 
Opps!!
18:50 / 30.07.04
Well if the people at DC are going to be looking at trade paperback sales and if everyone on Barbelith buy a copy (come on it aint gonna cost much), jobs a good un
 
 
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19:18 / 30.07.04
Hey i'll be buying a TPB for sure.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:39 / 30.07.04
It's ok, Banana - - I wanted Seaguy to win a little more too. Or at least get some She-Beard lovin' action even if he was still ruled by the Mickey Eye overlords...
 
 
Nietzsch E. Coyote
23:58 / 30.07.04
November 23rd?
What about my birthday?
 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
04:38 / 31.07.04
I never wait for trades. Been meaning to pick this series up, mainly for Stewart's artwork - however, now being the time that it is, means I'll have to "contend" with the trade.

It looks ace, Mr. Stewart.
 
 
wicker woman
06:19 / 31.07.04
Damn you, Morrison (well, you too, Cameron) for pulling me in during the span of three issues. I even like the first issue now! Atlantis FFFFFVVVVCK Department!

I need to hate something Morrison has written now. This has become more than a quest. Grant, do like a "Lost Episode of Friends" script, or something... Please!
 
 
The Falcon
12:14 / 31.07.04
Buy the Spawn trade he wrote.
 
 
■
12:54 / 31.07.04
NO! Don't! We need to keep as much money out of the hands of McFarlane's lawyers as possible. Just read it in you local bookshop. We don't care as long as you don't crease them.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
05:14 / 03.08.04
Just got the final part. Meh, it was pleasant enough. Great artwork by Cameron.
 
 
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13:50 / 03.08.04
Only a few signatures at the moment, and these online petitions never work, but hey, it's worth a shot...

Are you sure that they never work? I wouldn't be surprised if the petition to get another series of Angel added to the push to get it made in the end. Also, can you keep us posted on this Cameron?

One other thing i don't get is that Vertigo surely know that if they brought out the rest of the Seaguy story, by the time it got to it's end it would surely be MASSIVE, and the money the would make off it would be worth it.

Why are they just focusing on the amount it's made so far and not thinking about how much this is going to grow through word of mouth and popularity as it goes on?

If only more people who actually read the three issues knew about that online petition, i'm sure it would start to have some weight behind it.

I feel like joining comic forums just to post the link.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
14:05 / 03.08.04
One other thing i don't get is that Vertigo surely know that if they brought out the rest of the Seaguy story, by the time it got to it's end it would surely be MASSIVE, and the money the would make off it would be worth it.

Well, no. They don't surely know that - it is one possibility. The question being whether they are willing to take the risk that it will be the one that actually results. The more people show they are at least enthusiastic enough to sign an online petition or write to the editors, the more likely that there are other people who will be enthusiastic enough to buy it, which is why spreading the word, emailing Vertigo etc is a good idea.

How about joining other comic book boards, seeing if they have a Seaguy thread, seeing if they have mentioned the petition and if not giving them the link?
 
 
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14:16 / 03.08.04
Yeah i will do, i'll have a look on the net and see what i can find.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
15:54 / 03.08.04
It seems a bit odd that Grant is thought of so highly that DC snatch him away from Marvel on an exclusive contract, they take a risk of putting out his old material like Animal Man and Doom Patrol with no guarentee that he would sell, they've made a fair packet out of his Invisibles and JLA trades... Have sales of The Filth TPB been so bad that they are suddenly being coy and talking about wanting to see how Seaguy's TPB does before committing to any more?
 
 
FinderWolf
17:28 / 03.08.04
Good question, Lady.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
17:38 / 03.08.04
Exactly. It's one thing to reject a project at the synopsis stage - fair enough, it happens - but it does seem absurd to allow a third of it out like say a third of a movie, ( and it's roughly as irritating, ) and then " assess the situation " based on sales, especially when you've gone to the trouble of scoring an, er, big industry name like George with an exclusive contract, on the basis, as I understand it, that a) he can do what he wants, b) you've signed him on the strength of the ideas he's already submitted, and c) he can't do much else until the contract's run out in any case. If nothing else, artists on Vertigo always seemed to have been allowed to bring their work to a natural, if rushed, conclusion of some sort, however badly it sold, so for Vertigo, of all people, who wouldn't even exist without George, Alan, Neil and Peter to pull this shit seems thimply unconscionable, my dears.

So what I'm suggesting is a moratorium on all Vertigo products, apart from The Human Target ( and that's including the Sandman dollies and statues, though god knows it'll hurt me,) until they start behaving themselves.

Realistically, they just want George back on JLA, don't they ?

It's disturbingly easy to imagine the discussion:

MONEY GUY 1: " Hey, I'm a money guy - I'm just here to make the figures add up ( scratches beard, scratches arse, eats a couple of doughnuts, calls out for more, ) And this guy's... ok, he's got some ideas, but... Ah, fuck it, get him a contract, he'll see sense soon enough. We'll have that asshole writing Superman before Thanksgiving, godamnit... "

MONEY GUY 2: " Dude, you ROCK ! "

MONEY GUY 1: " Can I get some fuckin' MAYO on this sandwich ? "

Etc.

And let's face it, not reading anything on Vertigo these days ( apart from The Human Target, ) isn't exactly going to be a major sacrifice, is it ?

The wankers.
 
 
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18:42 / 03.08.04
Can i still buy The Filth when i get some money?
 
 
FinderWolf
19:08 / 03.08.04
>> George, Alan, Neil and Peter

You mean George, Abe, Nate and Pike

(hey, I tried)
 
 
Alex's Grandma
21:01 / 03.08.04
B:

I'd have thought so, yeah.

Insofar as The Filth trade paperback came out BEFORE Seaguy #3, and NOT after, it's probably okay.

But only just, y'know ?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:12 / 03.08.04
As long as when The Filth reaches its climax YOU'RE thinking about Seaguy.
 
 
onorthocrasi
07:16 / 04.08.04
^^^^^^

I do the above but i diddle myself with a Spider Jerusalem doll while reading..... Is this immoral?!?
 
 
MFreitas
09:38 / 06.08.04
Quoting: Zullibdig : as i read it i pronounce it Za-Leep-Dig, which phoenetically reminds me of the German "Sie liebt dich" which is "She Loves Me" a song by the Beatles, Zullibdig is a space beetle, i thought it was just Morrison's Beatles joke/reference for this series.

- Humm... wrong! "Zullibdig" reads like XOO liebt dich, which means of course Xoo loves YOU (rather than "me").
 
 
_Boboss
10:38 / 06.08.04
but, weirdly, right as well because there's no beatles song called 'she loves me', but there is one called 'she loves you' who, you? no xoo! couldn't've been! then who?
 
 
Haus of Mystery
10:51 / 06.08.04
Hmm. Maybe Zullibgig is just a funny word.

No, what am I saying? Varriage is right of course. It's all about the hypercontext, and 5-D squids.
 
 
The Natural Way
16:13 / 06.08.04
It's squids, squids, squids all the way.

I couldn't be arsed to post about how dumb that stuff about "She Loves Me" was. Thanks for putting the capstone on it, guy.
 
 
Cowboy Scientist
08:36 / 08.08.04
Some notes:
Some say that the wink at the end means that Seaguy remembers all the stuff that happened before (the "good" end), some others say it's 'cause he thinks he's in he know but really isn't (the "bad" end). There's evidence to support them both:
The bad end: He calls Death Gondolier (he forgot about Death, meaning he's still innocent, still ignorant about the price he might pay for playing the game,(the risk); game = "adventure"). Also, Death says "What's a life worth nowdays?"; meaning life isn't worth anything in this world where there is no real risk; risk is inevitable to have an adventure,(adventure = to actually live your life, and do something, instead of nothing), Death is the only one who wants to play, so, ironically, Death is the only one who actually lives his life.

The good end: Seaguy tells Death "So how about I start on black", Seaguy has in his hand a black chess piece (and he's actually playing with the black pieces, if you check the next page). This means, he's not cheating Death anymore, he's gonna play a fair game; finally taking a risk, living the life, having an adventure. He knows the price he might pay; he remembers Chubby's death, but prefers living a real life than to continue to have to go to the park for fake "thrill rides". Lucky el Loro is crying because he knows Seaguy decided to take risks.
Also, it says NO XOO TODAY. XOO induced innocence and ignorance and "happiness". No more XOO might sugest Seaguy is now neither innocent nor ignorant.

Tell me please if this sounds like complete gibberish, it makes perfect sense in my head, I just might not be explaining it in the best way. More Seaguy Rant(tm) to come.
 
 
The Natural Way
11:11 / 08.08.04
One thing that I noticed before but I failed to mention is the name of the adventure, 'Half an Animal on a Stick'. It's Chubby's rotten carcass, isn't it? Like some kind of deranged kebab/lolly. So....does this mean Seaguy's urge to escape's simply been recuperated by the Eye? That the whole thing's a simulation they dump Seaguy in, in order for him to work through and purge his adventurous side?

Is it a *solid* simulation, or is it soul TV?
 
 
twomenwalkingabreast
01:35 / 09.08.04
Saaaaay, was Seaguy draped in the Texas flag in the opening of issue #2?
 
 
Billuccho!
01:36 / 09.08.04
It's already been clearly established that the flag is that of Easter Island.
 
 
onorthocrasi
06:05 / 09.08.04
Nonexistent man your ideas where very intriguing, they also make a lot of sense. I knew i was missing some of the subtleties of the last pages but i wasnt sure exactly what.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
09:58 / 09.08.04
Surely Lucky El Loro is snickering, not crying, because both he and Seaguy know that the Gondolier is colour-blind and that there's no possibility that Seaguy will lose the game? In other words, Seaguy is back where he was before the adventure, with no memory of it, and thinking that Lucky El Loro is and has always been his best pal.

Very bloody depressing if you ask me... but given that She-beard is still at large (and perhaps that Lucky is so clearly unsatisfactory as a substitute for Chubby) there's plenty of opportunity for more.
 
 
twomenwalkingabreast
23:52 / 09.08.04
Easter Island? Ain't that part of Texas?
 
  

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