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Seaguy #3

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13:14 / 21.07.04

Well, this is it - Seaguy's first voyage concludes in "Mummy on the Moon," out in shops today (tomorrow in the UK).

I'm going to be away from Thursday at the San Diego comicon, so I won't be around to contribute to this thread until after I get back on Monday, but I'm really looking forward to seeing what everyone has to say. Hope you all enjoy it as much as I did drawing it...

13:35 / 21.07.04

No-one is allowed to talk about it until the Brits have got it tomorrow. In fact, no-one is allowed to read it until 12 noon GMT. Fair?

Spyder Todd 2008

14:42 / 21.07.04

Hmm... see, now after I get it tonight and read it, I'm going to really want to post major spoilers and stiff, just to annoy Sax....

Yotsuba & Benjamin!

15:57 / 21.07.04

Dude, are you kidding? I read this at 10:15 AM between the comic book store and my office.

HOW CAN I WAIT??

IT WAS SO GOOD!!

Oh, well. Internalize. Innnnnnternalize.

18:34 / 21.07.04

(in William Shatner "KHAAAAAAN!!!" voice)

AAAUUUGHHHH!!!! BIRDIEEEEEEEE!!!!

BBBIIIIIRRRRDDDDDIIIEEEEEEE!!!!!

Imaginary Mongoose Solutions

19:10 / 21.07.04

I damn near cried.

Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero

20:27 / 21.07.04

It's badass. Looks great. The butterfly was neat.

21:05 / 21.07.04

You bastards. I have it here in a paper sack, but won't be able to read it until this evening...

01:54 / 22.07.04

Ok, that was really good. Really, really good. No detailed comments as of yet (I need to reread the whole thing before forming any real thoughts on the book), but I can say I'll be extremely dissappointed if this thing isn't continued.

02:01 / 22.07.04

yeah, where do i write to DEMAND more Seaguy?

madfigs #32, now with wasabi

02:28 / 22.07.04

I plan on demanding more Seaguy from every Vertigo or DC editor that I see at the San Diego Comic-Con this weekend, and hopefully lots of other people will do so as well.

02:43 / 22.07.04

That'll probably help, and anyone else who cares to get all evangelical can do so by emailing DC or writing to them via snail mail at the address found in the indicia. Also convince your retailers to order high on the possible trade paperback, or re-order copies of the individual issues, buy additional copies as gifts, etc etc. Just get the word out that there's a market for this stuff.

Also, as an aside, anyone who is attending the San Diego show this weekend, I will be at the "Vertigo X" panel at 3:30pm on Thursday, likely talking about Seaguy, and will be signing and sketching at both the DC Comics booth (times TBC) and at the Splash Page Art booth. Hope to see you there!

11:26 / 22.07.04

There go my threories shot to shitty ribbons.
All I can say is what the crikey fuck was all that about?

Those who rebel are given just enough rope to hang themselves? Those in control of the system like to amuse themselves by imposing conformity by allowing people to pursue their dreams just far enough? A Clockwork Orange for men in wetsuits? I mean WHAT? UH?

Looked very nice in parts, though. The egyptian faces were quite Quitely, I thought.
[Goes back for a second read although he really should be working through Tom Wolfe right now....]

and NOOOOOO! Chubby can't be replaced just like that can he? Does the Gondolier have a huge menagerie of animals with accents?

12:11 / 22.07.04

No, but I-Pol does...

I need to reread this. I hope there is more to come. I want to know what Seadog's weak spot is...

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

12:13 / 22.07.04

Surely 2 plus 2 can't equal 5, not after all that!

And much as I love parrots, I concur- I miss Chubby.

Fucking wicked, Cameron- you and George have truly excelled yourselves.
I'll post more on the content after I've had another couple of reads- basically just read it on the bus home from the comic shop. (I sympathised with comic shop guy about how shitty Thursdays are, cos I used to work in one and I remember. He was like "why can't you wait till Friday then?" "It's Seaguy!!!" I answered.)

Rest assured, I'll be emailing... and you'd better hope they DO pick up the next series, or I'm gonna have to go Kathy Bates on yo' asses!

Seriously, though, that was marvellous.

12:44 / 22.07.04

Got a bit lost. Got back into it. Loved the wink. Kill the parrot.
All hail Mickey Eye.

13:16 / 22.07.04

I didn't get this yet -- it's killing me! I had something come up last night that I had to go to and didn't get to the store -- but I'm getting this tonight after work!! Can't wait...

Spyder Todd 2008

13:20 / 22.07.04

"Da fug?" indeed. (This is the bit where Spyder leaps to huge conclusions based solely on a few small panels) Is it possible that Seaguy knows? Remember how he shook off the brainwashing effect in the xoo plant? I think (and again, mere speculation on my part) the bit with Chubby's ghost and the wink at the end show that Seaguy does remember the whole think. He ignored Seadog and all of the others. He went back to face Death, who had taken Chubby. And he did it with a smile. I wonder just how much Seaguy knows.
The gods demand MORE SEAGUY!!!

Spyder Todd 2008

13:22 / 22.07.04

Hmm.... I guess I should have put a Spoiler warning on that one... oops...

16:42 / 22.07.04

It now needs a couple of complete re-reads but fuck me that was good. It left me with a creepy feeling I was not too kean on so what did i do, oh yes i e-mailed the editors and requested more.

Well done chaps!

Haus of Mystery

17:01 / 22.07.04

Yeah.. gotta say I didn't think the ending would be so bleak. Talk about cliff-hangers. Really, really strong stuff and alongside 'Ex Machina' this weeks freshest read IMHO. Chubby's decimated corpse and cartoon head was extremely disturbing. Loved the yipping dogheads - I want one.

Yotsuba & Benjamin!

17:50 / 22.07.04

I reread the entirety of Seaguy on the way to work this morning and oh man is it a solid three issues. I didn't notice the EyeMoon until the second time around.

I realized what threw me off on #2, apparently, between pages, Xoo has sunk a cruise liner. Deleted scene?

I loved how mad the whole story is. How would you launch the moon into orbit? A million chinese firecrackers of course! That whole exchange between the two egyptians there was so priceless too. Paraphrased: "No, don't! The hordes of Chinese Fireworks!" "Then let there be a great and all consuming fire!"

That was an awful paraphrase but I loved that little bit of wackiness.

And what more can be said about Cameron that hasn't been said already? He's really hit a new plateau with these three issues. I sensed a lot of Quitely inspiration, but tempered with Cameron's fluidity of line. It's a startling combination. And let's give a shout out to the amazing color work throughout, including the great covers, which look so nice together, color-wise.

It really dawned on me what a fantastic choice it was to have that "Guess What, Seaguy?" moment in #2 be its own page. It crystallizes why comics as a medium rules so hard.

There should be more talking more about #3, yes? I'll leave you to it.

Haus of Mystery

18:26 / 22.07.04

It really has been a satisfying read. I love that Morrison doesn't explain himself. When I was young an angsty, whilst I loved Doom Patrol I used to wonder exactly why figures with clocks for heads would turn up. What was the hidden meaning. Now of course I realise the reason was: why the fuck not? And just like DP, the surrealism is fused with genuine darkness. Mickey Eye is one of the most unpleasant Morrison creations of recent times - a fusing of the atrocity of Miss Wonderstar's Magic Kingdom/death camp in Zenith and the living corporation from Marvel Boy. Just plain fucking nasty. Interesting that this 'fun' book has managed to unsettle me far more than the Grand Guignol of the Filth ever did.

18:29 / 22.07.04

There WILL be a trade? And there are only 3 issues this time around, right?

18:49 / 22.07.04

So how many adventures has SeaGuy had? If Chubby was so easily replaced by the parrot, who/what did Chubby replace?

Regrettable Juvenilia

19:39 / 22.07.04

I completely agree with the point that this is far more disturbing than The Filth, which I still think was slightly hamstrung by the constant "look! isn't this just appalling!" all the way through.

I think that even though it's possible that Seaguy has had to be re-educated before, we can assume this is the first time based on the conversation between Seadog and the butterfly in which they talk about the fact that it wasn't Seaguy they expected to cause any trouble. I love the implication that the two of them (and maybe some others?) are in some kind of cruel capricious competition with each other. It's all game-playing with Morrison, again. And now I have to go back and check if there's a butterfly in issue 1...

Perhaps my favourite thing about this issue was the 'No Xoo Today' sign on the last page. Not everything is quite back to normal, even if Seaguy's back in 'comfort zone 7'.

Regrettable Juvenilia

19:41 / 22.07.04

Oh God, and the most horrible thing - that snail shell you see through a doorway... Ugh... And the thing that looks like Xoo but much more icky and evil, crawling into Seaguy's ear... KHAN!

Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!

20:26 / 22.07.04

"It can't just be over, can it? Demand... the return of Seaguy in: THE SLAVES OF MICKEY EYE!"

Yes. Only just caught this tease of a final caption. This is just the beginnnnnning!

21:44 / 22.07.04

Xoo/the big Xoo attacking the liner occurs in issue 1. It's on telly and everything, but SG is drinking/eating Xoo, so he doesn't care.

22:09 / 22.07.04

Ah, the balloon animal Xoo.

I drink a lot of strawberry yoghurt drink, an affectation I picked up from Strike in Clockers (I also enjoy the taste,) and am now going to pretend to myself every time that I'm drinking Xoo.

I really liked this; the little linear continuity slips in #2 were a bit irritating, despite being something of a GM trademark, but otherwise this was - well, I want to call it Dadaist, but it is absolutely straightforward. Has enjoyable internal logic.

Sea Dog = Sir Miles = The Architect off Reloaded?!?!?!??!!!

Who can say.

Chubby's fetid corpse, of course, makes it 'Mature Readers'. I'd give it to a kid for a read, if they were interested. But I'm like that.

00:01 / 23.07.04

I noticed a couple weeks back that Seaguy's boat, Bumble-B, is another riff on Wally's Buzzer/King Sting phone from Flex Mentallo, which got me comparing the two a bit - particularly about holding onto images from childhood to convert into symbols in art later in life (and now Chubby saying the requisite "Don't forget Chubby!").

There was that goldfish in the goldfish bowl with the plastic city, too, that's been sticking in my head, though I don't really know how if it has any relevance to Seaguy.

I enjoyed #3 like all hell. The Egypt flashbacks were just fucking pitch-perfect and hooked the biggest smile onto my head. Glorious.

The Eye sure seems like Anti-Dad to me. Or sounds like him anyway, especially in those scenes with Doc Hero naked and being 'reconditioned'. Creepy. It's very creepy the particular way that everything exciting and whimsical in Seaguy's life always takes a quick drop into ugliness just when it starts to get going.

06:13 / 23.07.04

You know, I never thought about that (of course, about fifty things always become clear at the end of a Morrison run, about a week later). It could quite possibly be that Anti-Dad actually won whatever Secret Wars/Crisis-type battle was fought, and this is its way of keeping things in order, kind of like the way everyone's forgotten the heroes in Wanted? Interesting...

08:18 / 23.07.04

Flyboy's conclusion re: Seadog and the butterfly is almost the same as the one I reached - though I thought that he had somehow subordinated the butterfly, whatever its name is, and was perhaps in competition with Shebeard, since he 'always seems to know what she's up to'.

08:36 / 23.07.04

Loved it. Again. I have actually emailed DC to ask for more which is the first time I've written to a comic since I had a letter printed in 2000Ad back in my angst rdden yoof.

The scenes with Dr Hero really creeped me out. Horrible, horrible. WEven worse than Chubby's corpse - though I thought it wa v. funny when he punched the seagull. My impression was that this was the first time Seaguy has been re-educated, as shown by his ignoring the people around him, he seemed to have a weird type of glow around him and a "flat" expression in a few panels. Can't wait for the next volume! More!

Regrettable Juvenilia

09:06 / 23.07.04

he 'always seems to know what she's up to'

Doesn't the butterfly say that Seadog missed what Seaguy was up to because he was too busy watching someone else, who he expected to cause trouble? I figure that refers to She-Beard, and that Seadog's been watching her with a rather lecherous intent (he's also called Lotharius, horny old rogue).

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