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Seaguy #1

 
  

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CameronStewart
14:02 / 26.05.04
You know, I'm fairly certain that Chubby Da Choona is not a metaphor for Seaguy's cock.
 
 
■
16:50 / 26.05.04
Ah, Cam. It's in the public domain now, and people will forever be able to Google the words "Chubby" "Cameron" and "Erection" to get to that theory. You poor thing.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
18:13 / 26.05.04
Well for what it's worth I've just tried that, and I think you're ok. Now Cameron Diaz, on the other hand...
 
 
Mr Tricks
23:03 / 26.05.04
Sorry for the "CHUBBY" theory, still it had to be said . . .

I'm actually surprised there's someone who hasn't hear the term "Chubby..."

and as for mickey Eye

check this out...

 
 
The Natural Way
23:19 / 26.05.04
"Let there be marriage."

Or, indeed, "let there be Marriche."
 
 
bigsunnydavros
11:53 / 27.05.04
Coming in a bit late here, I know, but I loved, loved, loved this!

I've already written a gibbering and enthusiastic blog post about issue #1, and I'm not sure I've got many points that haven't been raised either in this thread on other blogs, but here we go anyway:

Whether or not Chubby is literally a manifestation of some areas of Seaguy's psyche, I like to think of him as working thematically this way. I'm really glad that Seaguy isn't being shown as being somehow more enlightened than "the media saturated masses" or anything like that: he's ended up on this adventure partly because of his status as a consumer (this is where that idea of Xoo as repackaged radicalism comes in), and partly because his own particular taste in escapism comes complete with an exaggerated need for "real" adventure (not necessarily a good thing). Whether or not Chubby and Seaguy are one and the same, they make an interesting partnership in this respect -- while Seaguy longs for to be part of something grand and romantic, Chubby seems more in tune with what's wrong on the ground level (or indeed just under the ground level!), something that is made somewhat tragic by his minute short-term memory.

Somewhat amusingly, given the whole "she'll never notice me" angle, She-Beard seems to be the character who is nearest to Seaguy's own personal frequency when it comes to her need for some sort of "real" heroism/adventure. Given that I've no idea how the plot is going to work out, I'm going to refrain from further comment on this front, but... there's something there, anyway.
 
 
Sax
19:15 / 27.05.04
Ah, finally got it. Not wanting to blow too much smoke up Cameron's arse, but... loved the artwork. The spreads were amazing, particularly anti-Dad's defeat.

I dig how everyone wears weird headgear... military helmets, crowns and tiaras, out-of-place homburgs...

And the logo's lovely, the way the G becomes bubbles. Nice to see it replicated in the Vertigo URL on the cover.

Xoo cubes - nice Oxo touch. And again for "Thanks for the team up, Doc!"

Favourite line: "It's our duty to protect the public! Run at them!"

Question: What is Mickey Eye saying as he's stomping the eggs? "Am Dek Eyeee... Gidt!"? Can't scan this at all...
 
 
Sax
19:16 / 27.05.04
Oh, oh! And Cameron gets to write "On the Ledge", too.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
20:09 / 27.05.04
Sax, this is just a guess, but " Am decay, geddit ? "
 
 
Ganesh
20:38 / 27.05.04
Or "A'm da guy, geddit?"
 
 
Triplets
00:25 / 28.05.04
"I'm the eye, geddit?"
 
 
Krug
03:36 / 28.05.04
Yeh, it's always heartening to hear stories like Cameron's.

There's hope for us yet.
 
 
Mazarine
04:16 / 28.05.04
Minor thread rot, but loving this quote about Cameron in a Grant Morrison Q & A in this month's Wizard: "My tip. Cameron Stewart- Next. Big. Thing. Official."

Chubby's facial expressions are fantastic, this looks like great fun.
 
 
Ganesh
07:44 / 28.05.04
"I'm the eye, geddit?"

The hard consonant at the end of "DEEK" kinda throws this interpretation.
 
 
Sax
08:15 / 28.05.04
I'm erring towards "I'm decay, geddit" at the moment. I wouldn't have puzzled over it so much except the "Equals Ambiguity" line on the next page is so clear.
 
 
Triplets
11:05 / 28.05.04
Anyone else seen the preview for #2 yet?

Chubby's face in the last panel just does it for me. I even let out a little 'yes!' even though I have no idea what it's about.

Joy to the core. Once more.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:41 / 28.05.04
There's a preview for #2?!!?!? WHERE?!?!?!??? WHERE????
 
 
Ganesh
15:01 / 28.05.04
Mmmm. Share!
 
 
CameronStewart
15:16 / 28.05.04
Just one page, on Grant's crackcomicks.com site:

 
 
Alex's Grandma
15:26 / 28.05.04
Good stuff.

But what are all the fags about ? In the first issue only Chubby and Death smoke, so does this tie in with the subconscious theory ? And if so, how ? Erm... anyone ?
 
 
FinderWolf
15:29 / 28.05.04
YOWZA~!!!

Easter Island heads smoking butts!

This guy looks like a guru who has kept outside the reach of the Mickey Eye-dominated world. He sits secluded on a hillside with his friends, the smoking Easter Island heads (symbolic of an older, pre-Mickey Eye civilization), contemplating life with his trust octopus by his side. He wears Mickey Eye glasses to avoid from being discovered and to 'blend in' one some small level. The baseball glove on his head is an absurdist symbol to show his rejection of the status quo.

Something has happened to make the Mickey Eye troops (who seem to have distinctively ethnic names) come and hunt him down... he awaits them like Jesus knowing the Roman soliders are coming for him...

How'd I do?
 
 
Billuccho!
15:29 / 28.05.04
That new preview page right there is bloody great already. Giant smoking Easter Island heads, baseball glove-hats, Desiree and Tyrone, and Chubby's facial expression... I love that, there. Took me a while to figure out they were giant cigarette butts, and then my view panned out and I saw all the heads...

Now this is comics.
 
 
FinderWolf
15:45 / 28.05.04
I think the cigarette butts are about flying in the face of Mickey Eye's sanitized, uber-clean "healthy" (Mickey Eye's version of healthy) world.
 
 
Ganesh
16:00 / 28.05.04
If one really wanted to chin-stroke, one might note that the Easter Islanders a) had elaborate rituals involving the retrieval of intact sea-bird eggss (in contrast to Mickey Eye's egg-stomping), and b) are thought to have died out (after finally turning cannibal) because they relentlessly stripped their habitat of its resources (chopping down all the trees, etc.) until they had no food left, and starved.

Given that Morrison seems to be toying with themes of youth/maturity and the consequences of mass overconsumption, the Easter Island setting may prove of some relevance.
 
 
FinderWolf
16:01 / 28.05.04
I also see he's wrapped in a ....Spanish flag? Texas flag?
 
 
Jack Fear
16:25 / 28.05.04
I'm pretty sure that's Seaguy under the glove/hat, specs, and flag. And that the pink octopus = Xoo.
 
 
Billuccho!
16:31 / 28.05.04
"I'm pretty sure that's Seaguy under the glove/hat, specs, and flag. And that the pink octopus = Xoo."

You're right, aren't you? I can just barely make out the 'SG' insignia...

Diabolical, it is.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
16:43 / 28.05.04
This is all a bit pointless until the thing comes out, but... oh well, it passes the time till it's time to go to the pub, so...

So are those soldiers about to capture the mysterious figure in the, er, baseball glove, or are they in fact bowing down ? Also, the Easter Island links with the Atlantis myth, and the significance of having a sea creature as a personal sidekick. And there's still that thing about the cigarettes... Will no doubt be contemplating this at length over a " funny cigarette " a bit later on.

But it's a lot more fun that The Invisibles, this, innit ?
 
 
CameronStewart
16:51 / 28.05.04
This is all extrememly entertaining, by the way. Some of you are way off the mark, some of you are dead on. I won't say which is which.

It's an Easter Island flag, by the way.
 
 
■
16:53 / 28.05.04
I thought that was Seaguy under there, too.
I think the flag is supposed to be a minimalist stars and stripes. One state (the single star) from one colony (the single red stripe).
 
 
Sax
18:10 / 28.05.04
The Mickey Eye troops are bowing down because of Seaguy's comedy glasses. He's Mickey Two Eyes! Double good!
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
18:18 / 28.05.04
I think sir, you mean good good double GOOD!
 
 
Ganesh
19:19 / 28.05.04
Doubleplusungood!

This is all extrememly entertaining, by the way. Some of you are way off the mark, some of you are dead on. I won't say which is which.

Well, the excitably tangential overanalysis on Barbelith is part of the whole Reading Morrison experience for me. I've kinda missed it.
 
 
Triplets
19:36 / 28.05.04
The Mickey Eye troops are bowing down because of Seaguy's comedy glasses.

The panel of them walking up, snigle file does seem a bit pilgrimagey, innit?

My guess: The Eyetroopers track Seaguy down to Easter Island, he puts on the ridiculous disguise to buy Chubby time to escape?

Oh yeah! I saw a program ages ago where it was shown that Big Giant Heads where supposed to have ornamental oval-plates with holes in the middle put over their eye sockets to give them 'eyes'... So giving eyes, sight reappearing?
 
 
Sax
20:40 / 28.05.04
Ha! Something that's been bugging me has just made itself blindingly obvious the minute I saw Vanessa's lips on Big Brother.

Seaguy + Chubby = Grip Glutz + Shamrock Squid.

I knew I'd seen that dynamic somewhere.
 
  

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