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Papess
15:41 / 03.03.08
However, without a means to ban...

How can this not be figured out by now? What is the darn complication? Doesn't this process simply take a certain number of mods to pass it?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:45 / 03.03.08
This is the sound of me swinging my head into the wall with enough force to pulp my forebrain like a watermelon.

*GLACK!*

Huh. Wasn't expecting that. I was expecting something a bit more percussive. Like FATTOOOOM!
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:53 / 03.03.08
You know, that feels a lot better.

Long story short. No banning. A button that moderators can press to ban users which is not, as far as we can see, connected to anything. No likelihood of any change to that situation occurring in future. Possibility of getting bans by emailing Tom, but Tom largely incommunicado at present. No structure for establishing how one does so, due to delight at delivery of (broken) ban button.

All assumptions about banning to be based on assumption that potential bannee is incredibly good-humoured and docile about a banning that may or may not happen to an indeterminate timescale.
 
 
Papess
16:08 / 03.03.08
Oh dear gawd, what a joke.

I am so sorry I made you smash your forehead against the wall like that. I feel like doing the same thing myself right now.

I don't understand...I just don't understand. Sorry for not keeping up with the current situation with banning. I guess I have to go read something somewhere. I thought there was just an issue regarding individual vetoes over-riding collective decisions.
 
 
grant
17:02 / 03.03.08
No, it was determined in a thread that has been ghosted that, while banning decisions appear as moderation actions, the actual poster being banned simply isn't.

As a result, opening membership is very problematic.
 
 
grant
17:12 / 03.03.08
Which means, well, getting new people at all is problematic.

Which I think might answer King in Iron Pants' question.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
05:00 / 04.03.08
I am so sorry I made you smash your forehead against the wall like that.

Please, don't blame yourself. It's just a thing.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
10:16 / 06.03.08
"There is another world...
There is a better world..."
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
10:19 / 06.03.08
After some of the PMs I was getting a couple of weeks ago I'm not sure it's such a great idea for me to be there, either.
 
 
Quantum
16:49 / 17.03.08
I just cut a chunk of wolfangel rot out of the better world thread and pasted it elsewhere as requested, but what about the loose ends? The little posts which now don't really fit in context? I'm going to propose deleting them and see what happens.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
01:31 / 18.03.08
If the behaviour of a board member, in the Temple or otherwise, seems a bit much, why don't you, moderators, just ban them?

The apparent, current 'let it all hang out' approach is, while commmendable, arguably only hurting Barbelith.
 
 
Seth
02:57 / 18.03.08
You are such an idiot.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
04:05 / 18.03.08
A handsome idiot though.

Isn't all this is a bit academic? LN will hopefully be everything its members want it to be, and the other board the same, so at this stage, who's to care what happens on Barbelith?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
08:51 / 18.03.08
THe problem with relocating Wolfangel's rot to the "being there for survivours..." thread is that it's still rot--offensive rot, to boot. Now there's six pages of self-absorbed, anti-feminist, anti-recovery, emotional blackmail in that thread instead of another one, which I don't see as an improvement--in fact, I'd say it's slightly worse where it is as the thread in question is on a very emotive and painful topic.

It's bleakly amusing how someone who complains so frequently about being silenced feels okay to produce huge piles of text like this one regardless of their impact on the thread, or indeed on the reader.
 
 
Quantum
12:32 / 18.03.08
You know what? I'm going to delete the lot and PM the contents to WArioch and if he complains about silencing he can re-post in a new thread entitled 'Wolfangel's blog' which we can then debate if necessary. I don't think he'll bother though, it's all about the initial emotional splurge usually.
Anyone who wants to disagree my action, please explain here why we want another iteration of the same material from Wolf 'all priests are rapists' Angel.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
12:42 / 18.03.08
Well, that sounds like a fair solution. One point though--as upset as I was by the content I would also appeal for compassion. This is a person in a great deal of emotional pain and distress who is not always entirely responsible for his own actions on the board.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
14:01 / 18.03.08
If you're deleting a topic rather than a post it'll be easy enough to link to it for Wolfy, just make sure it's locked too.
 
 
Anna de Logardiere
14:20 / 18.03.08
who's to care what happens on Barbelith?

Well if I want to care that's my business you decrepit old hag.
 
 
grant
20:24 / 18.03.08
Oh, dear.

(directed at the Temple, not the decrepit old hag.)
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
09:38 / 19.03.08
Okay, I've been waiting for the last straw for a while now and I think Wolfangel has just dropped it onto my back.

The only decision left is whether to make the disengagement gradual and discreet, maybe keeping on my mod hat but avoiding other interactions; a complete break where I mung my password etc; or a big flashy melodramatic departure thread preferably right in the middle of the Temple. If its destiny is getting trolled and rotted to death anyhow I might as well have some fun.
 
 
Quantum
12:00 / 19.03.08
FLASHY DEPARTURE THREAD! W00T! I've proposed banning 'Unconditional Love' (wolfangel's new name) just to laugh at the futility of it, I really really want to delete the post where he wrote "You are no longer human" and all that shit but I don't know if that's best (evidential blah) and really this is it for me.

I'm starting a (pointless) banning thread, locking the thread he's ruined and packing up my things, I don't think I can stand a board where a valuable contributer says-

as upset as I was by the content I would also appeal for compassion. This is a person in a great deal of emotional pain and distress who is not always entirely responsible for his own actions on the board.

...and then gets this back from a long term troll-

There is no support here or compassion only the vicious games of politically diseased minds that see there own agendas and have stopped seeing human beings and there suffering.

...and there's nothing we can do.

Fuck it, quite frankly, I'm joining in the crap flinging head explodey departure gang.
 
 
electric monk
12:07 / 19.03.08
Holding my comments till the WA ban thread starts. I've got the ban job in my queue.
 
 
illmatic
12:16 / 19.03.08
Mordant (& Quants) you know it's the right thing.... the air is so much cleaner outside... let it go ... let it go...
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
15:49 / 19.03.08
SPRING
 
 
electric monk
17:22 / 19.03.08
Just disagreed a request to delete this post. It was a request to Modify with no modifications, and since the reason given was "delete", well...

I'll put a Delete Request thru.
 
 
Quantum
08:59 / 20.03.08
my mistake, thanks.
 
 
electric monk
11:59 / 20.03.08
Yr welcome.

Have put Mordant's post up for deletion as well. It's quite out of place without Wolfangel's outburst preceding it.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
13:23 / 20.03.08
Yeah, I was going to get around to that myself. Ta.
 
 
grant
13:37 / 31.03.08
Shit topic: shit topic?
 
 
Katherine
13:40 / 31.03.08
Could the mods have a look at 'Magic and Faeces' in the Temple please!
 
 
Glenn Close But No Cigar
13:49 / 31.03.08
As the instigator of the Magic and Faeces thread, I'm not quite sure why it might demand being looked at by Temple Mods, especially as it has - at time of writing - yet to received any replies, and as my original post contained was clear, concise, and contained no offensive material whatsoever.
 
 
electric monk
14:04 / 31.03.08
Ha. I just came here from there, after responding in-thread.

And on refresh, there's another post to that thread, and it has my full support.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
14:05 / 31.03.08
It's a weak topic with a weak opening post which could just as well have gone in Stupid Q's or in one of the existing topics on body fluids. Given your history, I'm inclined to regard it as a bid for attention. I've moved to lock and delete.
 
 
Glenn Close But No Cigar
14:12 / 31.03.08
Mordant, I'm sad that this was your immediate response. I have, I hope, answered your concerns in-thread.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
14:23 / 31.03.08
And now I'm cross because I've had to take Glenn off ignore.
 
  

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