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Angel Season 5 (Spoilers)

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02:18 / 24.11.03

Haha, Impulsive, ye of little faith... I think he's plenty bright, he can just be a little nieve at times... But Lindsay's a biatch x 1000000, so I wouldn't be surprised.

15:20 / 27.11.03

Was there no new ep last night, or....?

15:38 / 27.11.03

I'm not sure cause I didn't bother checking but since last week they didn't show a sneak peek I assumed it was going to be a rerun.

19:01 / 27.11.03

Thanks man, I was wondering if my station was just fucked, but I guess not. Good to know...

14:59 / 10.12.03

news from Cinescape.com:

ANGEL's big guy is getting behind the camera lens for an upcoming episode of the show. David Boreanaz told Sci Fi Wire that he's directed an episode of the show, "Soul Purpose", which will air on January 21 next year. "It's got a JACOB'S LADDER feel to it," the actor told the website.

"Soul Purpose" has a paranormal parasite attach itself to Angel and he begins to experience hallucinations.

Plus, the show is in reruns until mid-January, to my knowledge. (Ditto with SMALLVILLE)

17:45 / 10.12.03

Is it just me or is this season lacking? I don't know but this new move hasn't done much for me. I mean, I like it but... blah. I remember last season when the show went on winter reruns I was DYING for it to start up again. I was literally counting down the days... but I didn't even notice it was on reruns now and the wait isn't bothering me. I miss the hotel. I miss Cordy. And, call me a glutton for punishment but, I miss Conor. And I most definitely miss the casual drops off roof tops.

Am I alone is this?

03:52 / 11.12.03

I know what you mean, impulsivelad. It's almost as if the tension between the characters have disappeared! That's probably what accounting for the almost empty feeling I get from watching this seasons episodes. With the new setting, everyone's sort of spinning on their own axis. I mean, last season was damned near incestuous!

04:36 / 11.12.03

It will tie together soon enough. Recall Whedon's game plan, which was essentially to begin with very (seemingly) unconnected episodes, both in content and in smoe ways character interaction as well... but midway thru the season, we begin to see how it all fits together, and everyone comes full circle. If I remember correctly, I mean... =)

01:09 / 14.01.04

This stars up again tomorrow all I'm interested to know is if this is the episode that has a cast member of Buffy showing up and dealing with the slayer powered girls? I know it's the 100th episode.

03:16 / 14.01.04

Tomorrow is NOT the 100th ep, man... it's a few away, actually. Tomorrow focuses on Harmony.

Regrettable Juvenilia

07:31 / 14.01.04

First episode of this premiered on Sky One last night. It was pretty good - not a stand-out episode due to too much exposition and a really annoying "see, Fred is good at running a lab!" sub-plot. Plus Eve is kind of irritating too - maybe she's meant to be, though. Still, this episode did have possibly the funniest Angel line ever...

Angel: "I have absolutely no problem spanking men."

08:18 / 14.01.04

He's got really chunky, hasn't he? T'was pretty okay. I'll be watching it. I thought what they did with Charles was quite funny. Here we have a real token nothing of a character and Whedon decides to fill this empty vessel with a lawyer. Gunn is the black Joe 90. Perhaps a new thread is in order for UK Angel viewers. I havn't read this thread except for the last post. Don't want spoilage.

14:31 / 14.01.04

First new ep. in a long time tonight!

13:18 / 15.01.04

I caught this but I missed SMALLVILLE - this Harmony-centered episode was mostly silly fun, didn't advance the major plotlines of the show much. The usual nice comedy moments from Harmony & such.

14:46 / 15.01.04

I think it was mainly to give a light reintro to the show again after the winter break, as jumping right back into heavy plot might be a bit much after no show for so long. I did like the opening commercial about WR&H, though. Lots of funny stuff.

One good line from Harmony that really drives home a major theme of the show:

'I don't have soul. This is really hard for me but I'm trying.'

The idea that vampires can be redeemed is one they keep bringing back in Angel, which is a real departure from the old kill-em-all Slayer days.

19:07 / 15.01.04

Damn, I missed the teaser so I missed the W&H commercial. I did hear about the various Sci-Fi evil corporations it listed as clients, though - good stuff.

Harmony's delivery on that line you mention was almost touching but still kept her in ditzy-blonde comedy-land - it was a nice moment, though. The line where the evil secretary says the first thing she does at Harmony's desk will be smashing all her unicorns was pretty funny too. Mercedes MacNabb is really damn funny.

01:56 / 29.01.04

PSYCHO SLAYER GIRL! AND ANDREW!!! (it already says spoilers in the title so...)

Ok, that was the best episode this season. It had everything. It balanced the dark (and I mean dark) moments with the light (and I mean funny as fuck) moments perfectly. I think the tortured slayer girl was great. I felt really really horribly bad for her but at the same time was deathly afraid of her. I loved her interaction with Spike and I loved Spike and Angel's conversation at the end. All in all, it was an fantastic episode and I'm gushing. So I'll just say that I missed Andrew and was glad to see him back.

Oh and, I also like that Buffy and her team no long trust Angel.

Yotsuba & Benjamin!

02:21 / 29.01.04

"He's alive, Frodo. He's alive."

It's so good to have him back.

03:05 / 29.01.04

That was sooo fuckin amazing!!! Is it just me or does Andrew look like he's trying to be Dr.Who? This was one of the best Spyke episodes! I was damn annoyed they didnt address the Slayer issue and now they pulled it of beautifully.

11:29 / 29.01.04

I didn't notice the Dr. Who thing cause I figured the hair was a hobbit thing... but yeah, I totally see it. He's such a fun character.

13:35 / 29.01.04

I agree with imp, I thought the exact same thing: AMAZING fucking episode. Hit every mark just beautifully. SO funny to see Andrew back - I wasn't expecting his return. "He's alive, Frodo - he's alive" cracked me up. Pretty much everything Andrew said cracked me up. Funny to see him with the longer hair. And it was very clever to have Andrew playing it (mostly) dramatic at the end with the whole 'give us the slayer, we'll take it from here, she's one of us.' Terrific idea that Buffy doesn't trust Angel anymore -- and apparently Cordelia next episode will say the same thing ("You're working for Wolfram & Hart now!??!").

By the way, when did Wesley return from his 'I need some quiet time away from the office after that whole thing with my father' [which I still haven't seen -- grrrrr] thing? I just realized he was gone and then it seemed like he was suddenly sort of back.

So many great Andrew quotes here. Spike's return is like the return of Gandalf the White ("but far more beautiful"). "Vam-PIRE." Andrew lighting the pipe dramatically. "Perhaps Mr. Giles was wrong about you, Mr. Windham-Pryce." The whole "what does blood taste like?" bit with the penny. Lots of blood must smell like..."Nickels?"

The scene with Spike and Angel at the end was amazing. Just terrific, and great performances by both actors. Spike begins to show some genuine remorse for what he did as William the Bloody.

A: "She was an innocent victim."

S: "So were we both...once upon a time."

A: (softly) "...once upon a time."

BLACKOUT - executive producer Joss Whedon.

Fucking brilliant.

Oh, and it seems like Fred just gets hotter and hotter to me. "Correct, slender attractive girl."

20:48 / 04.02.04

That was easily the best episode of the season, possily in longer. I really liked the slow realization of the "good guys" that everyone else is sure they've slipped to the dark, and they're beginning to seriously wonder as well. Insisting that they're doing the "right thing", even if everyone else things its evil. The villian always thinks he's doing the right thing though, doesn't he? Its that lovely shade of gray where evil isn't so black and white as the show has always made it.

And Andrew is just openly gay at this point, isn't he?

21:47 / 04.02.04

It seems like it. Too bad we won't be seeing him soon. Here's hoping he get a decent part in the Buffy Movie (if there ever is one... um, another one.)

14:28 / 05.02.04

Was it just me or did last night's episode seem a little anticlimactic? I loved seeing Cordy again and I loved that she saw right through Eve. Loved that Harmony got to rough her up. And for the first time in a long time team Angel seemed like a family. Cordy really was the missing ingredient. She's kinda like Xander in that she functions as the team's heart. But come on, I thought Lindsey was going to be more of a threat! I mean, I loved the super badass sword fight at the end but, that's it... all his machinations came down to just that? How lame.

And it also sucked that Cordy's dead/leaving... especially after seeing how much she's needed in this group dynamic.

All in all, the episode was cool but there was a lot I wasn't happy about.

Oh yeah, and there was a kiss.

16:32 / 05.02.04

I agree - it was very very good overall, but it seemed like a lot of very big plotlines were wrapped up in the second half. Part of me likes that the Lindsay thing came to light and came to a head so quickly, part of me felt what imp is feeling, like "Huh, that was quick." And although I liked Cordy's death, I wanted to see Angel take another few moments to just get hit by the shock of hearing of her death on the phone. This was a big scene for him, I wanted to see tears, I wanted to see the shock of hit hitting Angel more like a punch in the gut.

Very cool to see Eve get her comeuppance, though, if also a bit early for that, and to see her man get gobbled up by some interdimensional baddies. I just liked seeing Eve humbled after she's been so 'higher than thou,' untouchable, bitchy for so long. Harmony's torturing her was great. "Harmony, you can stop now, she's talking." "She is? Awww..."

Yeah, Cordy really did bring everyone together in this ep., but I think that's intentional, since team Joss is showing how splintered team Angel has been getting all this season due to working at Wolfram & Hart, Gunn's makeover, seeds of distrust sown in team Angel, etc.

Great to see the Doyle clip. I only started watching ANGEL in its second season, so I've heard about Doyle but never saw him act. FYI, the actor who played Doyle was a drug addict and after repeated attempts at interventions by Joss & the cast, the actor didn't get it under control, it kept getting in the way of filming, and they fired him. A few years ago, the actor committed suicide. So it wasn't just a tip of the hat to the character, but to the actor who lost a battle with his inner demons. Cordy's line "It burns me up when I think about how he went out" had multiple meanings for the real-life actors.

17:03 / 05.02.04

I dont think that's the last we'll see of Lindsay. He was too cool a character to bring in and not do anything major with. I think the Senior Partners are going to give him their "you've been a very bad boy" torture session and then use him once they realize Angel and gang are back to doing their do-gooder/not getting sidetracked thing again. Hopefully they'll also send back Lila too.

Cordy was nice to have back. But I wish there was more interplay between her and Harm. And Harm's torture session was great.
I agree we needed more anguish time for Angel.

17:59 / 06.02.04

And for our very special 100th episode of Angel, we'll wrap up all our dangling plotlines. Hrmf.

I'm real curious about the Fail Safe beasty in the basement now. You know we'll see that one again at some point.

18:16 / 06.02.04

Really? I thought the fail safe monster was a throw away idea.

20:14 / 06.02.04

I could see it going either way. Maybe we see the beastie again, maybe we don't.

21:02 / 06.02.04

I'd imagine once Linsey returns (oh fuck don't TELL me u think he wont!) he'll pimp out the fail safe biatch to bolster his move against Angel. I'm sure all of this is far from over, but u ahve to admit the premature fight to the death made for a sweet 100th ep.

Don'tcha???

14:45 / 11.02.04

There's a rumor up at aintitcool news that when Team Angel decides they need to interrogate someone who knows a lot about the senior partners, they rescue Lindsay from his perilous state to pump him for info. This is supposedly supposed to happen in maybe 5 or 6 ep's.

New Angel tonight - Angel in WW II!! Get ready to rrrumbbleee!!!

15:15 / 11.02.04

It would be really nice to finally found out something about the senior partners.

16:44 / 11.02.04

I've been reading spoilers (only little bits) but yeah I think the senior partners are going to be explained in full, but some of the other stuff I read didn't sound too promising...

Tonights one will be strange, Spike the Nazi - I wonder how they play it out on TV?

13:02 / 12.02.04

I thought last night's ep. was very good....solid, with lots of fun & intense moments. But why did Angel vow to kill the guy he "sired" so quickly? I figure if you're going to promise 'next time I see you, I'll kill you" to someone, they better have done something horrible, and all that guy did was want to eat his crewmen, which is normal, since he just became a vampire and was all hungry and caught up in the rush of his transformation. I got that he turns 'evil' and doesn't have a soul, but was Angel this dead set on killing every vampire he could find in the 1950s? Or was he more freaked out that he sired someone?

Spike as a psuedo "I just like to wear the jacket" Nazi was hysterical. I loved the tribute to the vampire cliches - one was Nosferatu and one looked like the Count Dracula from the Gary Oldman Coppolla DRACULA film.

Boreanaz gave a really nice performance here, I thought. Nice Steve Rogers/Captain America reference! I also loved the gov't agents saying 'we'll just weigh you down and you will sink, regardless of your interest...'

13:46 / 12.02.04

Yeah, when I saw the preview I thought this episode was gonna suck... it seemed very Highlander (which I liked as a kid but... you know) But it was actually kinda cool. I liked the whole super soldier thing. I liked seeing an early incarnation of The Initiative. I liked that Spike enjoyed wearing the Nazi paraphernalia (he's always been punk). The only thing I think could've been handled better was the other vampire's reason for closure. I mean, it's hinted that some of Angel's soul was transmitted into the young man and so he existed in some sort of limbo but it could've been explained better.

Hunter- I took Angel's comment about killing his new hell spawn as in character. He knows he's created something evil. I mean, he feels bad about killing humans (and doesn't anymore) but he's just birthed something that's going to go on killing in his place. I'm surprised he didn't just dust him once they were ashore.

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