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New X-Men #149

 
  

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I'm Rick Jones, bitch
17:12 / 01.12.03
I'm pretty sure logan was pre-world
 
 
■
17:54 / 01.12.03
OK, sorry but I haven't read the full thread for fear of spoilers, but I was amazed at the Ernst/Cassandra idea. Soooooo wrong! It's Dorothy from Doom Patrol, and that brain is Niles Caulder come back to claim his catastrophe that he never got to finish. Either that or it's the Marvel universe Monsieur Mallah and Zahl....
 
 
diz
18:34 / 01.12.03
Oh, and who knew it took a few prank phone calls to distract EVERY SINGLE superhero in NYC?

well, honestly, if the Caller ID says "Xavier Institute," and this new Xorn guy is on the other end of the line saying "hey, there's a black hole in Brooklyn and we need help," i'm sure it would get taken at face value. just calling the Avengers Mansion, Reed Richards, etc. should do the trick. i mean, maybe you'd miss Daredevil or Luke Cage or someone, but what are they going to do against Magneto on Kick?
 
 
grime
21:26 / 01.12.03
LUKE CAGE!

lol
 
 
PsiWar
21:34 / 01.12.03
there's this theory that the Cuckoo's names are spelling out ESPER.
Esme, Sophie, Phoebe...
 
 
Aertho
22:04 / 01.12.03
What's the significance to the word ESPER?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
22:12 / 01.12.03
As in "ESP-er." You know, ESP. Extrasensory Projection.

That's probably not it, but cute. Or corny. I'm not sure which.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
00:25 / 02.12.03
ESPER? Does that mean I get to summon them to kick the shit out of some trolls or something?

Oh god I made a Final Fantasy 6 joke. Kill. me. now. please.
 
 
bio k9
01:20 / 02.12.03
Luke Cage wears a chain as a belt. He rocks.
 
 
gotham island fae
05:25 / 02.12.03
And I MUST give some respect to the cum-by-Shaft makeover that Jimenez, Rodi and Villarrubia gave our man, Luke.

Ultimates' Power might have something to say to a NU Magneto.

And if it was with a NU Angel, I must just stop/swoon.
 
 
Jack Denfeld
08:10 / 02.12.03
I wish everyone in the world read New X-Men. That way, the next time I take some lucky girl on a date I can hand her a plush Beak/Angel's baby doll, and she would know what it was and go "Awwwww".
 
 
DaveBCooper
10:18 / 02.12.03
I agree that too much is happening off-page, and that the pacing's all screwy. You can call it interactive comics if you like, but since I've slammed down the money and carried the thing home and started to read it whilst applying my mind to making it all make sense (both sides of me brain an all), I think I'll dismiss the interactivity claim in favour of the more plausible 'not very well written, unfortunately', option.

Not a bad issue, mind, though that's only because it's picking up a bit and starting to put characters back in who've been notable by their absence, and even explaining things which have been hanging (though the black hole prank call thing smacks either of a rather offhand afterthought or maybe a pisstake of 'Secret Wars', depending on how tolerant you're going to be). The characterisation of Magneto makes a certain sense if you're going to accept he's all bad and the Xorn character was all his good side (I'm still 'eh' from the X=M reveleation, to be honest, and waiting for a full and proper explanation of the how - in the comic, I mean, not elsewhere), and in a way it kind of echoes the characterisation of Quire; Quentin was, I felt, adolescent in his aims and actions, and that was about it, and Magneto seems to be bitter and powerful and lashing out, and ... um, not really having any all-too defined goals.

I know Grant's supposed to have written the last year or so of his run quite quickly, I just wish it didn't look that way.

Oh, and it may well read better in a trade format, but you'll have to forgive me for pointing out that it's being sold as a monthly comic, so it should be written to read as one as well. You could sell Citizen Kane in twenty-minute snippets if you liked, but don't be surprised when people complain that there's too much panning over Xanadu and not enough action in the first part.
 
 
The Falcon
10:52 / 02.12.03
I wouldn't hold my breath for 'full and proper' explanations.

It's all elliptical rationalisations round here. Which I'm all for.
 
 
DaveBCooper
14:07 / 02.12.03
Eeeh, we used to call that 'making excuses' when I were a lad...
 
 
The Falcon
14:13 / 02.12.03
Check dis.
 
 
DaveBCooper
14:49 / 02.12.03
I'm assuming there's a link to a discussion called 'dat' somewhere ?
(Laughter)

Anyway, that looks interesting, even if it does look like it's gone into specifics a bit early for my tastes. Ta.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:52 / 02.12.03
Cube, your Doom Patrol parallel theory is bloody brilliant!

I hope (and believe) the #150 will knock us all on our collective asses and not have mediocre writing in it (the kind of mediocre writing I feel we've been seeing scattered throughout Grant's last few NXM issues).
 
 
gotham island fae
22:34 / 02.12.03
First off, I may have found my feelings on Grant's pace.

It took me re-reading to realize that all four issues of Planet X so far have been happening within just a few days. It works very well when sat down with in one swoop. (Particularly if you read part 4 of the Weapon Plus arc as the lead-in.) I've also been waiting and will continue to wait with baited breath for the next issue. I tend to suspend judgement until that time when having the whole story before me comes. And though there might be better paced-specifically-for-monthly-serials out there, it's not a discrepancy that lessens my enjoyment each month in the least.

But then, I've only just begun the monthly cycle of getting the story. It's been all back-issues and trades til this arc.
 
 
neuepunk
17:31 / 04.12.03
A few thoughts...
The scene with Jean contacting Xavier may be happening concurrently with some of the events in #148. The "it's not a place.." line is repeated in both places....

..which leads us back to #128. The same scene occurs there when Xavier tries to talk to the Phoenix. In that scene (and this could be an art direction issue), Wolverine's body is shown along with two others (they look like Beast and Cyclops, but it could be Beast and Emma...). Regardless, the dialog remains mostly the same, minus repetition. I don't have the issue handy, but the dialog follows the theme that the phoenix burns away that which doesn't belong. I was debating after looking back at #128 whether this scene is being remembered or if it's occurring in two times at once. I think both. It's unclear in #149 whether Xavier sitting next to the Phoenix is the mental projection of the one in the tank. I think that it's not; he just hears Jean's call and remembers the event, while Jean/Phoenix is in both places at the same time. Or none at all, if the events are not synchronous with #148.

I think some of that made sense.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
18:40 / 04.12.03
What we see hasn't happened quite yet. It's not a place - it's "how it feels to be the last hope, and to know you'll win no matter what" or something to that effect.
 
 
Aertho
18:57 / 04.12.03
And "Are these words from the future?"

Xavier keeps saying that over and over and over.
 
 
"See me for what I am, OK?"
22:24 / 04.12.03
"Are these words from the future" is bringing the book full circle. It was one of the lines in 114, when Cass first enters Charlie's mind. Isn't synchronicity a wonderful thing?
 
 
Krug
03:35 / 05.12.03
They're also the best line in the series.

My feelings on this issue are exactly the same as the last issue.

A poor story that ends so well that all is forgiven.

The full circle dialog is one of my favourite Grant things. I like how he did it in the Invisibles and am pleased to see it here.
 
 
Logos
21:49 / 07.12.03
Prediction: Magneto ends up with his head twizzled around so much he thinks he's Xorn, and stays on teaching at Xavier's school.

This issue felt like the band playing before the last football game of the season. Biiiiig leadup.
 
 
grant
05:04 / 24.04.04
I just finished the whole run and realized that the coic book guy never put this issue in my stack. Bastard.

Serves me right for only buying once every three months, but still.
 
  

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