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Tunnels
01:28 / 13.07.05
You may know this already, but one of the cd singles of “Love Machine” has a b-side called “Androgynous Girls” which is splendid also (as well as being further evidence for my ‘Girls Aloud lyrics=Suede lyrics’ theory)."

Androgynous Girls is such an amazing track...I tend to see the whole "ouvre" of Xenomania as an work in progress which aims to re-tell the complete history of popular music from the fifties to our days...or at least the history of Brian Higgins' record collection. Under that assumption, "Androgynous Girls" would obviously be their version of Gang of Four.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
02:10 / 13.07.05
So which one of the Spice Girls would you get off with, if somebody was holding a gun to your head ?
 
 
Ganesh
09:04 / 13.07.05
Erm, what have the Spice Girls got to do with anything?
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
10:32 / 13.07.05
With anything? That's a bit harsh.

With this thread? Not a lot. Point of comparison, I suppose.

What has shagging one of the Spice Girls got to do with this thread? Nothing at all. Someone just thought they were being amusing, and it turned out they were being a wanker instead.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
11:20 / 13.07.05
Yeah... Oh well.
 
 
Tunnels
01:37 / 14.07.05
That's ok guys. Jokes aside, there's a new single ready, named "Long Hot Summer", which I believe has just started to get airplay in the UK, so barbebrits (what a lame word I've just come up with) will probably be hearing it all over the place in no time. For non-brits like myself, it's not hard to find it over the net.

First impression I get: along with "The Show", these are probably the only singles that do not try to appropiate rock n roll clichés. Instead, it sounds like they have chosen to go all the way in the path of the "summer hit"; I really can't picture them wearing leather clothes for the videoclip this time. But that doesn't mean this is a complete failure. On the contrary, I think this is quite ace; a truly accomplished summer hit.

It sounds a LOT like early-days Xenomania, especially "Round and Round" and the "Jump!" cover.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
21:37 / 15.08.05
I think 'Long Hot Summer' isn't as immediately distinctive as some of their other material*, but after a couple of listens I definitely give it two thumbs up. Chorus is a little reminiscent of 'Thank Me Daddy' from the last album, only of course minus those particular bonkers lyrics.

*'Graffiti My Soul' was played at the night I was at on Friday to a great response: I still can't believe a) quite how good it is, and b) that it was never a single. It's almost as if the final incontrovertible proof of how good they are was knowledge that could not be shared with too many people...
 
 
Dxncxn
23:29 / 15.08.05
It's the first time they've disappointed me. Which isn't to say that it's bad, exactly - I like the pink champagne bit at the end ("It's easy..."), and the relatively unusual structure of it (which is something of a Higgins hallmark) - but my expectations had got pretty high by this stage, particularly after the last Kylie single (being the latest Xenomania production before "Long Hot Summer") which is such a perfect thing that even the b-side ("Made Of Glass"*) is fantastic. It's just that the chorus doesn't really do it for me, which is a fairly major drawback where these things are concerned...


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* avaliable on iTunes and well worth 79p of anybody's money.
 
 
Janean Patience
14:00 / 21.08.06
Bumping this without having reread the entire thread to say I saw Girls Aloud at V yesterday and was surprised at their reception. A colleague thought they'd get mud and bottles hurled at them. I wasn't so retrograde, but I wasn't expecting the euphoric enjoyment of the crowd.

The Girls did all their dancing and squeezed a costume change into a 40-minute set, they did singles, album tracks, and cleverly skipped the ballads. The tent was packed, everyone was singing along, and when they did I Predict A Riot we, as they say, went wild.
 
 
haus of fraser
15:48 / 21.08.06
Sssssh!!!!

Don't tell Flyboy that Girls Aloud are covering 'I Predict a Riot' ....

...unless its ironic????


 
 
miss wonderstarr
17:11 / 21.08.06
They did I Predict A Riot at Wembley, last night of their 06 Arena tour, and I have the shaky video to prove how barnstorming it was. Anyone who wants to diss Girls Aloud will have to go through me first. Unless it's Sarah or Nicola I suppose. Or Tweedy/Cole, if you are criticising her racist assault. Or if you are commenting on Kimberley's hair this year. Other than that, they are my girls.

Sorry to have come to this thread so late but I will make sure I check it from now on.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
17:15 / 21.08.06
one of the cd singles of “Love Machine” has a b-side called “Androgynous Girls” which is splendid also (as well as being further evidence for my ‘Girls Aloud lyrics=Suede lyrics’ theory).

This is an interesting theory ~ is it expanded on this thread somewhere? ~ not least because at the time of their debut single, I posted on some other board with the argument that "Sound of the Underground" was approx = Suede's "Electricity" ~ I honestly can't remember on precisely what grounds, so maybe it was more of a general "feel".
 
 
Mike Modular
21:15 / 21.08.06
Heh, I was at Wembley too (how else was I to spend my 30th birthday...?). I was a little uncomfortable with IPAR, couldn't quite bring myself to enjoy it. However, I've otherwise been pretty evangelical about GA since (have had several heated arguments, found few allies).

The V footage I caught on E4/T4 looked good, apart from some sound problems (like, turn their mics on!) and they were clearly the best thing there out of anything else I saw covered.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
21:29 / 21.08.06
I think, wonderstarr, that would be Tweedy's unracist assault, as mentioned earlier. We don't want to get into libel, as Flan Kitteridge would say. Also take away Sarah and Nicola and you don't have much of a group left! Kimberly is the only member I think of as replaceable...

Girls Aloud covering 'I Predict A Riot' is, of course, an entirely different action than the Kaiser Chiefs singing it. It's on a par with Tori Amos covering Eminem's '97 Bonnie & Clyde' in terms of how the meaning is automatically changed even before you hear the delivery, although I imagine qualitatively it's a whole lot better.

There is a more recent thread for Girls Aloud less packed with fighty fighty stuff at the start, but I don't suppose it makes much difference.
 
 
Jackie Susann
23:08 / 21.08.06
Girls Aloud covering 'I Predict A Riot' is... on a par with Tori Amos covering Eminem's '97 Bonnie & Clyde' in terms of how the meaning is automatically changed even before you hear the delivery, although I imagine qualitatively it's a whole lot better.

Cf. Sugababes 'I bet you look good on the dancefloor'.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
06:43 / 22.08.06
Cf. also Girls Aloud, "Teenage Dirtbag".

The one thing I don't like about their cover of this track ~ which comes complete with cowbell on the line "he rings my bell!" ~ is the fact that the male dancers pretend to sing in the middle, whereas in fact it's the band providing vocals in the background. See "What Would The Neighbours Say" tour DVD 2005.

I take your points, Flyboy; I suppose I was really admitting that I see Nadine as the key force.
 
 
Dxncxn
09:43 / 22.08.06
On the lyrical similarities to Suede, no, I didn’t go into it in any more detail than that, partially because it’s been less and less apparent as time has passed. I think it’s there in each of the first three singles, and then, as I said, the title (if not so much the rest of) “Androgynous Girls”, but not really since then. Plus I’m not sure I’d’ve been able to come up with much of an argument beyond quoting lyrics and going ‘See?’. If I was going to try and do better than that, I guess it would be something to do with having some similar themes - a celebration of short-attention-span, brand-name-obssessed (etc.) youth culture, and the part music plays in that. But, certainly, "The girls get down to the sound of the radio" or "We smoke as we choke as we sink another coke" would fit perfectly into "The Beautiful Ones". Incidentally, Popjustice have been running a competition recently where the prize is the chance to work with Xenomania, and, tragically enough, at least half of the reason I’ve entered is that, in the unlikely event of winning, I’d (hopefully) get the opportunity to bug Miranda Cooper with endless questions about the lyrics to ‘Chemistry’ (lots of which I’m still chewing over, nearly a year after release. “Biology” in particular - I think I know what’s going on, but there are bits that don’t quite fit, and I wouldn’t be too surprised to discover that there are other people with entirely different readings, or that in fact there’s no real answer. Hey! Forget Suede, Girls Aloud lyrics=’Mulholland Drive’!)

I have the same reaction to the Kaiser Chiefs and Arctic Monkeys covers as I did to Kylie’s indie phase (if three tracks can really be called a ‘phase’), which is predominantly a feeling of disappointment. Clearly at least part of this is a result of baggage that I bring to the table - I don’t recall any of the groups in question ever pledging to be champions of my own personal Pop vs. Indie dichotomy - but seeing the Sugababes doing “I Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor” at the NME awards looked to me like pandering, like attempting to play by the NME’s rules. When they’re so much better than needing to do that. Or maybe that’s just how it seems to me when I don’t like the record in question. I have none of these issues with All Saints’ “Under The Bridge”, because I like it enough not to care. (Incidentally, all this is brought something like full circle by the Arctic Monkeys having done “Love Machine” for Jo Whiley a few months ago. It sounded like The Fall. I couldn’t tell whether on not they were taking the piss. It was odd).

With regards to individual members of Girls Aloud, I was thinking about this recently, in response to the “Off The Record” documentary, and a re-reading of the Kylie Minogue=Best Band Ever??? thread, where I got the impression that people were arguing that Kylie herself deserved most of the credit for the quality of her records. I realised that, actually, I don’t necessarily think of it that way. It’s an intriguing position to find myself in, because I have consistently argued the ‘It doesn’t matter whether they write the songs’ position in the past - and still do - but I found myself watching the documentary - if that’s not too grand a word - and finding that my jury’s still out on the matter of exactly how much of a connection I feel between the members of the band and the records I’ve been playing. (Nicola maybe less so than the others, since “It’s Magic” is the only track with a group co-writing credit which I really like, and I’m assuming it’s all her, since it’s a solo vocal). Or, to clarify: Girls Aloud are my Favourite Band (and it’s been a long while - Kenickie would be the last time, I think - since there’s been anyone I’ve felt fanboy enough to say that about). And yet if they split from Xenomania tomorrow, and I had to choose between a new GA album produced by someone else or a new Xenomania album sung by somebody different, I think I’d be more excited about the latter. Although, to return, however briefly, to the topic in hand, Kimberley is great, not least because her thanks in the ‘Chemistry’ booklet are impeccably punctuated, which is rarer than you’d think. (Assuming, of course, that you’d given it any thought at all).
 
 
miss wonderstarr
12:30 / 22.08.06
the lyrics to ‘Chemistry’ (lots of which I’m still chewing over, nearly a year after release. “Biology” in particular - I think I know what’s going on, but there are bits that don’t quite fit, and I wouldn’t be too surprised to discover that there are other people with entirely different readings, or that in fact there’s no real answer. Hey! Forget Suede, Girls Aloud lyrics=’Mulholland Drive’!)



Maybe the attempt to make some sense of their lyrics could be a new thread, or a new angle on The Science of Girls Aloud. Is that latter thread mostly about Chemistry and Biology though?
 
  

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