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Firefly

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08:49 / 27.10.02

Yeah, I've seen all that have been aired and to be fair, the show has slowly been getting better. Well, funnier at least. The last one I saw where they went to the mining town and Jane (who thought he'd be strung up if discovered for past misdemeanors) turned out to be something of a local hero was a hoot.
I still can't say that I think it's *brilliant* though, it shows promise and I think if we ever go to the centre of the galaxy (?) instead of hanging about in the outskirts it could get really cool. I don't think Fox should cancel it though, far too many genre shows get the axe in favour of "When rabid raccoons attack IV" or some such rubbish.
I'll stay with it whilst it's on but the Captain (Malcolm Reynolds - I thought all captains had to be called John?) still isn't right.

Our Lady of The Two Towers

12:05 / 28.10.02

What, Fox taking a stand for quality intelligent telly?

Start playing the 'death march' now...

14:01 / 28.10.02

I think the whole way they compile the Neilson ratings is unfair to science-fiction. According to what I've heard, they try to find family households, where there's a mom, dad, and at least one child. Thus ignoring the vast number of single men (and I suppose some women) watching their sci-fi.

I think it's great. I haven't seen a bad episode yet.

16:10 / 28.10.02

-gridley

Yep. Exactly what happened to Farscape which apparently has a higher female audience then male. 3 families stop watching, show gets cancelled.
Genre TV must be rubbish, nobody watches it!

Probably happen to Firefly too.
*sigh*

06:15 / 02.11.02

You know Im really annoyed that this show is on FOX. They cancelled Girls Club after only three eps. and they're famous for not giving shows any feet to walk on. These last 2 weeks episodes had much more character development and im really begining to feel like this show could eventually reach BUffy quality.

14:31 / 02.11.02

Just seen episode 5 and I'm almost lost for words... What a complete turnaround!
Suddenly, the anti has been upped. The performances were all top notch, the script was excellent, the dialogue was sharp and boy, how the characters were developed. Suddenly, I care about this show - a lot.
I guess because I had low expectations this one caught me off-gaurd but it was great.
A new opening voice over which was much improved and on top of that, I'm actually starting to like the captain aswell. Who'd have thunk it?

If Joss and co, keep this up it will surely get cancelled.

14:32 / 02.11.02

And suddenly, I've realised I've over used the word suddenly.

15:00 / 03.11.02

I'm starting to like this show more then Buffy. Or more then new Buffy which isn't awful but its nopt to great either. Anyway now i look forward to this show more then new buffy. don't cancel it FOX!

16:03 / 03.11.02

I really like this show and I would like to see it stay on the air for more than a season, but Fox has put it in a time slot that basically guarantees that it'll be canceled.

22:04 / 15.11.02

Well after this show is when FOX decides if they'll give firefly the axe. Heres to hoping they don't.

00:04 / 16.11.02

After this episode is when FOX will choose i meant.

14:08 / 22.11.02

Two more episodes were ordered (after Fox announced the shows it was cancelling, which did not include Firefly). So that's a pretty good sign. It's not as reassuring as them ordering a full season, but it implies their giving it a chance to find it's audience.

20:48 / 02.12.02

Well its on "hiatus"...which, going by FOX's past performances, means.."We hope you like it...we'll bring it back..honest. Pardon us while we go looking for its replacement. Perhaps some crap like Seventh Heaven or Everwood"

03:10 / 12.12.02

Holy Shit did anyone see the ep last friday with niska, ear cutting, and rambo river? and fox may be moving the show to thursdays.

19:22 / 13.12.02

Tim Minear announced today on his website that the show has been officially cancelled.

From http://www.timminear.net/

[Dec 12, 02] Well, it's official. After much speculation, Firefly has been cancelled.

Tim Minear had the following to say, "We did get word tonight, Fox won't be ordering any new eps. That translates to 'cancelled.' We will finish shooting the ep now in production (I'm directing, in fact Joss came down to the set to break the bad news to cast and crew -- we wrapped early, but are back at it in the am), we'll finish post on all eps, and Fox says they're going to somehow air all eps."

The obligatory save firefly campaign can be found at http://fireflysupport.com.

14:19 / 14.12.02

Oh, damn! Just when I was getting hooked. By the way, next week's episode is the pilot which was never shown b/c Fox thought it was too something or other--probably intelligent. Any chance of UPN or the Sci Fi channel picking it up?

04:52 / 15.12.02

Fucking hell! Thats it. Fox is officially on my list.

Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo

07:51 / 15.12.02

I wouldn't blame FOX for this cancellation, since the show got the worst ratings FOX has ever gotten on Friday nights. It was routinely beat in the ratings by 25 year old movies on UPN and was losing money rapidly for the network.

12:45 / 15.12.02

I would. This week they're showing the 2 hr PILOT episode. So instead of having a well thought out season, they're having to put in all these lil' filler tidbits explainning what the movie would have. Always a brilliant idea to show the intro right at the end. Well I hope some other station picks it up. Why are all the good sci-fi shows being canned?

14:22 / 15.12.02

Enh, maybe UPN or the Sci-Fi channel'll pick it up. They do that occasionally.

Our Lady of The Two Towers

11:55 / 16.12.02

'Firefly' meet 'Babylon 5: Crusade'...

12:22 / 16.12.02

the only set they really need is already built. so, expenses could probably be comparatively cheap for a new network that picks it up.

12:42 / 16.12.02

I think it'd be nice if UPN picked it up. Enterprise and Firefly back to back; get rid of this new silly Twilight Zone. I didn't like the Twilight Zone the first time and I don't much like it this time around. I don't see why Sci-Fi would pick this up after canceling Farscape, aren't the costs for both Firefly and Farscape the same?

13:42 / 23.12.02

I don't know at all so this is just a guess but looking at them I'd say that Firefly costs more than Farscape. I don't think Sci-fi could go near the show - Farscape fans would burn down the building in protest probably!

The Natural Way

15:54 / 31.07.03

Watching it on Sci-Fi and have to say I like it too. Shame about the cancellation (tho' Joss is determined to movie-ise it). Seems he borrowed the basic premise from Star Wars - space western/rebels vs evil centralised tyranny - and ran with it. Yeah, music's hokey, but script is tight and funny, characters and plot are complex and, well, it's everything Enterprise wishes it was. First truly character-driven space show.

Damn.

More!

Jack The Bodiless

15:00 / 02.08.03

Damn right, Skill. I am so buying the DVD this month. This show is better than any other sci-fi show on TV, and had almost limitless potential. What a shame.

Of, for the record - Nathan Fillion as Captain Mal Reynolds is AMAZING. A more finely nuanced performance in a TV series I have rarely seen.

Regrettable Juvenilia

14:11 / 03.08.03

Hmm. I've only seen one episode (the one where Mal's con artist wife comes back and he ends up naked in some desert), but I found it to be about as good as Andromeda (ie better than Enterprise, not a patch on Farscape). I think Joss Whedon may have forgotten that your first season of a show tends to work best if the central cast has enough time devoted to each character to make you care about them, and that's why the initial group of central characters is often quite small - they have to be exceptionally interesting or full of personality to grab your attention if there are this many.

Jack The Bodiless

17:19 / 03.08.03

I think it's a little difficult to judge a show based on one episode... equally, I think it's also a little difficult to judge where it was intending to go, how it was going to evolve, etc, when it was cancelled midway through the first season. Certainly Buffy's first season didn't set the world on fire in terms of plot or character - spirited, certainly, but ultimately shallow.

There was a lot of potential in Firefly, and the fact that Whedon and his team were dealing with adult characters, much as he and his team are in Angel, seemed to be working out better for them. Less of the cheesy faux-valley speak, which ultimately, with the last few years being darker, more bloodthirsty outings, rendered Buffy and Willow, especially, just cardboard cutouts guaranteed to talk childish nonsense at wholly innappropriate moments. You end up looking at the Scoobie Gang, asking yourself "are you lot ever going to grow up?"

15:42 / 04.08.03

You should definately watch it all the way through as it has quite a few plot threads that run through the whole show, What's up with River's brain, who the hell is Shepard Book really "Have you ever heard of the works of Shan-Yu?" and all that.

Ok I'll fess up, I love this show to small pieces, it's just full of nice moments and I've got to like all the character, obviously Wheldon's plan so people go twitch when he straps two of them to an electric frame and has a crazy russian mobster torture them for a scene, no strike that half an episode.

Also the episodes where Wheldon gets to play with how the show is constructed, flashbacks, starting the show with Mal dying on the floor of an empty destered Serenity, it's all good

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Ok serious time, do people think that River is just another wise waife girl-child sterotype? Or is she a decent portrayal of mental illness and a genuinely cool character to boot? How about the companion, Bi-sexual fun for the lads to watch or a decent portrayal?

And slightly less serious note, Jayne rocks, even if he is dumber than a sack of hammers

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20:55 / 04.08.03

but I found it to be about as good as Andromeda

that's exactly what I thought after watching about 3 episodes - I really dislike Andromeda, but that's what it reminded me of. It just failed to grab my attention or involve me enough to want to see anymore. But as it happens I did see some more, and one particular episode suddenly made ir click (Mal's fencing duel at the party) and I'm pretty much hooked. I think it just took me awhile to really get to know the characters then it suddenly came alive. Definitely worth persisting with.

Jack The Bodiless

12:00 / 05.08.03

I don't think we'll ever know where they were intending to take River's mental state, plotwise... not sure what they'd done to her. At any rate, it seemed to have given her extrasensory abilities - she could tell that everyone on the transport ship had been raped/murdered by reavers in 'Bushwhacked', long before they found any bodies.

Inara kind of rocks... I particularly like the fact that, as a registered Companion, she's not only completely legit, but very high class indeed, the social equivalent of a celebrity/minor politician, while Mal and his crew are spacescum engaged in completely illicit activities, and STILL Mal baits her about her profession. A mass of strange contradictions, that's our captain.

13:34 / 05.08.03

Just watched the first four episodes, not bad but I'm not a fanboy yet. Very Joss dialogue with shades of Buffy/Angel all over the place, but what he does best is long term plot, so a season or two isn't going to be long enough to make it great.
Mind you, I'll tell you after I've seen it all...

12:46 / 12.08.03

Anyone catch the last episode of the season last night?

Wow, definately one of the better episode that one and my what a lovely villian Jubel Early was. Crazy and vicious, "Man is stronger than woman, yet only she can create life, I don't think that's fair", not a nice man, but a great villian.

Was also lovely that River finally got to shine here and show her stuff, she can kill people by math

. Also that whole, I'm the ship now and I'm not very happy moment, where she dissects Jubel Early's personality was very nice.

Loved that scene at the beginning as well with her drifting through the ship catch the ambient mood from people as she wandered past, and that last jump from a forest in the cargo bay to 'bloody hell she's got a gun' was inspired. Reminded me a lot of 'Restless' from Buffy, the one with the first Slayer, that whole stream of consciousness on film thing, dreamlike in fact.

Also some news here about the possibility of a Firefly film from Joss Wheldon.

The Natural Way

13:00 / 12.08.03

Shit! Was that the last in the series? Aaaargh! No! Someone pick this fucking show up!

I liked River's weird pose atop the railings in the hold/dock. Cool.

The Natural Way

13:03 / 12.08.03

I just love the way there's no set formula for a Firefly ep. Nothing wrong with Buffy and Angel's cases and monster-of-the-weeks, but it's a nice change to watch a show where anything could happen. A show that's free to take whatever shape it wants.

There's so little of that going around.....

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