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The New Doctor Who

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Less searchable M0rd4nt

12:55 / 04.01.09

dark stallion: shut up. Seriously. Just shut up and, for preference, fuck a long way off. Of all the many things I hate about this shitty little backwater of the internet, you are a front-runner. You are a smug, self-absorbed, ignorant little git. Your knee-jerk refusal to check yr privilege makes me violently ill. Your woman hot lol crap is so gobsmackingly irritating I want to rub E45 Itch Relief cream into my fucking brain. Your thoughtless maunderings about "PC pressure" make the tinfoil-hatted conspiracy ravings of the Greenland Posse look measured and sane by comparison. I wish you would crank the high-pitched whining you set up when called on your shit up a few hertz, then only dogs would be able to hear it and the rest of us would be spared. Lol women hot lol black PC pressure lol fat boss lol shut up shut up just shut up why won't you shut shut shut shut UP.

14:28 / 04.01.09

I thought we'd all agreed that Stallion is Flyboy's jokesuit?

Regardless of Moffat's motivations I wish they'd gone for someone older. He may be 26 but he certainly doesn't look like an old 26 - in fact he looks, to these jaded eyes at least, like the kidult answer to our fave timelord. It seems to me that pop culture is unhealthily dominated by teh youth - Dr Who doesn't need to join in, especially since it's absurdly popular with the kids anyway.

That said, the chap does seem to be possessed of some genuine quirkiness, which might bode well. At this point, my problem with this bit of casting is more philosophical than anything else. Hopefully he'll be astonishingly good.

15:12 / 04.01.09

PJ Holden has sprunged into action, pencil at the ready, and produced this quite nice image.

Dunno how to do links mind...

http://www.pauljholden.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/matt_smith.gif

15:33 / 04.01.09

That looks like the guy who played Angel in Buffy.

17:04 / 04.01.09

I wouldn't take that lying down, DS, if I were you.

18:02 / 04.01.09

I thought we'd all agreed that Stallion is Flyboy's jokesuit?

Oh, we did, did we? Christ, I hope that's wrong. If someone wanted to spend the energy on that, they could at least do a better job making it worth speculation. Anyone can imitate shitty posting. Look...

boboss dude you just dont know what your talking about I mean I'm just trying to post here for fun, it's not like brain surgery or anything to talk about the Doc so chill. Sage I don't know what got up your piehole but jeez give me a break and I'll do the same, who's the greenland posse?

Well, it's close enough. I think that would be a tiresome charade to maintain over any length of time (e.g. InViSiBlE ChAuS MajIcKiAn) but maybe Flyboy is really bored?

Our Lady Has Left the Building

18:18 / 04.01.09

No, when Flyboy trolls the board he tends to do it under his own name. As my last act before I leave forever I'm tempted to automatically put anything of darkstallions up for deletion just because. I mean fuck it, Tom's not going to do anything about it, the three other moderators still on the board will probably vote it down but how much do you think I care?

There is a big wage freeze at the Beeb at the moment, which is one of the reasons Tennant is leaving. They possibly have a work experience trainee signed up as the next Doctor because that's all they can afford. Because otherwise, the 'ridiculously young lead' thing hasn't worked particularly well for the Beeb in the other shows it's had on when it's not been showing Doctor Who, namely Merlin or Robin Hoodie. I knew that one day I would have a new Doctor younger than me but I didn't think it would be so soon.

18:20 / 04.01.09

I think the main point is that there is no Flyboy any more. There is only Dark Stallion.

18:34 / 04.01.09

Flyboy is a meat-space friend of mine, and I can say, for sure, that Flyboy and the Stallion are one and the same person.

18:43 / 04.01.09

It's like that film, 'The Machinist', with Batman.

19:58 / 04.01.09

It is a bit like that, actually.

20:02 / 04.01.09

Statham's really let himself go.

Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero

20:50 / 04.01.09

Flyboy is a meat-space friend of mine, and I can say, for sure, that Flyboy and the Stallion are one and the same person.

I've never had any interaction with either you or Flyboy except on Barbelith, and I don't know if you're telling the truth or if you're on the bottle again. But it's so perfect that I propose that we all just go with it. FROM NOW ON THIS IS THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER, REGARDLESS OF WHAT __STALLION SAYS OR DOES

There, now it's official. Also, I totally called it months ago.

23:44 / 04.01.09

Would be nice. I could use my karmic "Tell Fly to SHUT THE FUCK UP free" card (I'm owed one, promise) in that case. But no. Stallion is someone who hasn't quite grabbed the idea that the opposite of "Politically Correct" is not "Politically Incorrect" but "offensive, racist, sexist, hurtful, just fucking wrong". It's a tricky one to get your head around, but basically, PC is a bit of an in-joke (see 'lith passim, ad absurdum) that was appropriated about 20 years ago by people who wanted to offend people and get away with it. Using "PC" as a trump card these days is no more than an excuse for people who don't like something for very bad reasons and can't explain why they are wrong.

And, to get back on track, I trust Moffat to do a good job given his limited remit, but I was wounded by the lack of Swinton.

01:16 / 05.01.09

But no. Stallion is someone who hasn't quite grabbed the idea that the opposite of "Politically Correct" is not "Politically Incorrect" but "offensive, racist, sexist, hurtful, just fucking wrong".

I'm pretty convinced that stallion knows exactly what he's saying and doing.

01:40 / 05.01.09

I, for one, am disappointed in Chiwetel not being cast as I would have like to have seen the Doctor put a Dalek in an armbar AND MAKE HIM TAP.

Or punch an Ice Warrior in the throat.

09:40 / 05.01.09

This rant on science fiction blog io9 is an excellent summary of why myself and others are a little disappointed in the casting of Matt Smith and not somebody else who might have been a little less predictable.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

11:57 / 05.01.09

Quite right that rant. Even if it were going to be a white male, I would've preferred someone more distinguished, or at the very least, a little more charismatic. I hope Smith proves me wrong, because even in the interviews, I am truly not seeing what makes him special.

All said, I still have oodles of faith left in Moffat.

12:02 / 05.01.09

I'm finding it quite hard to get that excited about the new Doc now we know who it'll be, although I suppose I have to remember that I felt the same way about the Donna Noble character until they went to Rome so, you never know. It's not surprising that the Beeb decided to stick to the same-old-same-old new Doctor format, however it is extremely disapointing (I hadn't even heard Chiwetel was up for the role, he'd have been perfect).

After the League of Extraordinary Doctors at Christmas I'm a bit tired of the loosely coherant storylines which have come to dominate the series. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for TARDIS tugboat joycore, but after yet another episode with holes the size of the Cardiff Rift I'm think I'll benefit from this year's lower Who quotient to re-charge my Suspension of Disbelief Batteries.

Whisky Priestess

12:02 / 05.01.09

Come on, he's got that twiddly hand thing going for him. Surely that's special enough?

But yes, I know what you mean. I thought the interview with him was particularly uninformative and boring, but then again a lot of fabulous actors are quite dull and vague/inarticulate in person.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

13:59 / 05.01.09

The Operative as the Doctor? That would be fantastic!

Whisky, you're right; very few actors, no matter how awesome they are, come off as entertaining in interviews. At least not without some judicious padding and editing. To be fair, there are a handful of people whom I've seen interviewed that are really fun. But they tend to have been in things that have gone the way of the dodo so I suppose they had to develop and hone that sense of humor in order to keep their chin up.

14:24 / 05.01.09

Whew! Haven't been here for while, not much change, still delightfully discursive old Barbelith...

Probably against the grain and all deeply entrenched arguments, and as a woman in her thirties who dribbled at the very sight of Tennant, I should hate the young interloper. But I don't.

FrankenDoctor has interesting prospects for me. I can see him as the first ever fully gothic doctor and that suits me and mine just fine. I even like the odd hair.

Given the fact we won't see him in action until at least Spring 2010, there's still some way to go before a genuine conclusion on his performance can be reached. And hell! Matt Smith will be approaching thirty then...

15:43 / 05.01.09

I;m pleased that I have no preconceptions about the actor that's taken on the lead in one of my favourite things. I mean, really and truly, I love Paterson Joseph to bits but it wouldn't have been a blank slate for me. There'd have been comparisons with The Marquis De Carabas for starters...

Anna de Logardiere

21:02 / 05.01.09

Matt Smith was cast opposite Lindsay Duncan on stage which is good enough for me.

Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero

01:58 / 06.01.09

And hell! Matt Smith will be approaching thirty then...

And given that he and I are the same age, I'll thank you to never mention this fact ever again.

10:25 / 06.01.09

Just watched a couple of YouTube clips and Smith seems rather likeable. I wouldn't be surprised if Moffat focused on his age in a similar manner to Tennant/Davison in the CiN special, the whole FLCL-thing of young people trying to act older than they are/as you get older you give less of a shit. Seems like it's in fairly safe hands, so while I would have wanted Alexander Siddig/Vanessa Redgrave/Chow Yun Fat/Tomoko Kaneda/a fully CGI character/a Doctorless season I'm kinda content with the Kira Izuru lookalike (well spotted, FF).

12:36 / 01.02.09

Matt Smith? Seriously?

Can someone please brainwash Tennant into staying in the show?

14:05 / 01.02.09

Fashionably late, eh?

Poke it with a stick

15:15 / 01.02.09

He's on the Beeb tomorrow night as Sean Parkes' sidekick in some drama or other.

Anyone else seen the deleted scene from In Bruge with him aside from me?

08:33 / 02.02.09

Fashionably late, eh?

I was out of internet/TV/telephone reach for a while (Actually, I kinda enjoyed it), and missed on the news. Which was good, it reduced in one month what is to be one-plus year of suffering.

ONLY NICE THINGS

08:38 / 02.02.09

Did you not enjoy Party Animals, DM?

12:47 / 02.02.09

who?

13:00 / 02.02.09

Dude, only now I found out I was on Peep Show, you can't expect me to be aware of everything regarding British television...

ONLY NICE THINGS

13:20 / 02.02.09

We don't talk about the Bad Thing.

So, did you not like Matt Smith in The Ruby in the Smoke? Or The Shadow in the North? I can't think of much else he's been in.

14:17 / 02.02.09

I never saw anything he was in from beginning to end, but after knowing he'd be the Next Doctor, I watched a few clips of him on YouTube, and my objection is based mostly in the guy's ludicrously large forehead and in the fact the image of the Doctor seems to be moving ever farther away from what is my favourite interaction so far, which is Eccleston's.

I'm not saying Matt Smith can't pull of the character. That would depend, I belive, largely on how Mofat will develop the world around him, and while Mofat is best in terror stories that make you claw into yout sofa armrests, Matt Smith looks to me as if he would fit into a juvenile, kid-friendlier type of Doctor. Which, altough I recognize to be a valid way to do the Doc (it is a kids show, after all), it's not to my favorite taste, is all.

God, I just want the battle-weary, reserved, 9th Doctor back, that's the ultimate sad truth. And right when I was finally getting used to Tennant's "Hey, look at me, I'm so cool, though sometimes I get so tired of being so cool" 10th Doctor, here we go again...

Secretely, after watching the Curse of Fatal Death, I was hoping Richard E. Grant would play the part...

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