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Good gravy, dude, haven't we just been over this? Look, I'm sorry if this comes off as harsh, but I'm getting a bit frazzled at this point.
I feel that racist/homophobic/personal criticisms and attacks are part of the human interaction
Would you please unpack that?
For one thing I don't see why you lump racism and homophobia in with personal criticism. It's possible to criticise someone without attacking hir race, gender, sexuality etc--in fact it's more effective to tackle the real problem than to go for cheap irrelevant hatespeech. There is a vast gulf of difference between being "torn apart" for " mak[ing] a post while ... emotionally uncentered" and being on the recieving end of racial abuse, homophobic abuse, sexism, or other harrassment.
For another, what do you mean "part of human interaction?" I'm perfectly capable of interacting with others without attacking their race, gender, or sexuality. In fact I don't know why I would ever want an interaction where I was "allowed" to attack someone's race, gender or sexuality since none of those things are any skin off my nose. I'd certainly agree that harrassment based on race, gender, sexuality, and having non-normitive spiritual beliefs are part of many people's experience, but this is something to be striven against online and off, not embraced and replicated for Heaven's sake.
it just sounds like you guys want to have a thought police to stamp down on the occasional 13 year old posting swastikas and lollercaust gifs.
Please rethink the over-emotive and prejudicial term "thought police." Nobody on LN is going to come round your house and shoot you in the back of the neck. We just want one tiny bloody corner of an internet filled with 13-year-old boys posting swastikas and lollercaust gifs in which to have a sane, rational discourse on topics of mutual interest, which would be better done sans swastikas, lollercaust gifs, and so on.
I mean some of us evoke gods and use sexual fluids for ridiculous purposes and act out death trances and people are really concerned about bro-dudes calling someone a fag?
I'm not sure who "us" is in this context, or indeed why using death trances or bodily fluids for any purpose, ridiculous or otherwise, robs one of the right to challenge homophobia and other forms of prejudice. This is a total non-sequiter. There is no equivalence between engaging in whatever weirdness your little heart desires alone or with consenting adult chums in the privacy of your own home, and engaging in hatespeech in a public or semi-public forum.
LN is a community for, and I quote: "[a] discussion of magic that is rooted in direct personal experience and/or a reasonable level of academic rigour ... A collective investment in interrogating one's practice and one's beliefs about that practice through peer discussion."
That is to say, you have to actually have some goddamn respect for your craft and other people's craft before you can play. If you are taking the position that magic is inherently irrational to the extent that anyone practicing it should essentially be removed from any form of rational philosophical or political discourse for good and forever, you have clearly come to the wrong shop. If you are taking the position that the only problem with calling someone a fag is that it's irrational, rather than offensive and likely to alienate contributors, you've still come to the wrong shop.
Yeah, people are really concerned about bro-dudes or anyone else chucking around hatespeech. No, people do not consider the inalienable right of 13-y/o-boys to post swastika gifs to have primacy over our right to hold one small space where as diverse a group as possible can have a reasonable discussion. No, people are not going to change their minds about that.
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