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Iron Man - the movie

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14:57 / 01.08.07

Presumably, if any of the named cast are in fact the Mandarin, it will be Shaun Toub - an interesting choice, since Toub is a British-American actor with Sephardic Persian roots. Interestingly, he appears to be playing a character with a Chinese name, but is not identiifed as the Mandarin. In fact, I would be surprised if the word "Mandarin" gets a lot of play when a comic book audience is not being addressed.

Actually, Toub was originally listed on IMDb as The Mandarin, but then got switched to Yinsen, who I'd been cautiously presuming was the surgeon/fellow prisoner who saved Stark's life.

I've been keeping an eye on this since April, when I stumbled on news (or "news") about Toub being cast. I think Favreau or the studio has been backing away from the Mandarin since the story (or "presumption") leaked off the set.

The Mandarin, by the way, has a Chinese (Mongolian) father and English mother.

15:09 / 01.08.07

Yeah, here's the Marvel wiki page on Ho Yinsen, celebrated physicist, COMMUNIST SLAVE!

20:22 / 03.08.07

that issue is 5 days old but i want to clarify that i failed to spot the irony, or felt that some were picking on a possible irony and spinning it as a bizarre criticism to DAREDEVIL, hehe. sorry, guys. =P

i must rest my bald head

19:29 / 04.08.07

Dear God, I just saw the footage (bootlegged, but a high-quality version) on youtube and it looks FANTASTIC.

This could be a truly great movie. And I never would have expected an Iron Man movie to be this great. But it looks.

A.

MAZING.

Jon Favreau could be my new hero.

Phex: Dorset Doom

14:56 / 10.09.07

Here's the trailer ladies and gentlemen. Samuel L Jackson's Nick Fury isn't featured, but a certain Black Sabbath song that'll be on infinite repeat in my head until about 2009 is, so everything balances out.

My Mom Thinks I'm Cool

15:32 / 10.09.07

the "medium" and "large" links seem to accomplish little other than killing firefox. for me anyway.

15:36 / 10.09.07

Me, too. It happens to me a lot with Apple trailers.

15:58 / 10.09.07

It's ... beautiful.

I wonder if the song'll pop up in the movie.

MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!

16:05 / 10.09.07

Everyone who sits near me will have to watch me bob my head all afternoon while grunting

RUHH RUHH RUH-RUH-RUHHH

and occasionally shoving a stiff-armed palm through the air at something and making FOOM! noises. What a great trailer!

17:32 / 10.09.07

amazing.

just amazing.

What was up with that weird synthe-voiced-distorted "Iiiii ammm irrrron mmmannn" at the end of the trailer? Was fun, but a bit odd...

ONLY NICE THINGS

18:02 / 10.09.07

It's from the Black Sabbath song Iron Man, the use of which is, justly, being identified as the most thrilling thing about this trailer.

My Mom Thinks I'm Cool

18:25 / 10.09.07

well, and internet explorer refuses to load more than the first 30 seconds of it.

maybe the mystic forces behind barbelith are trying to tell me something. like, "quit trying to watch movies and get some work done".

18:50 / 10.09.07

Somebody's going to have to explain why this is meant to be awesome. Preferably without the argument relying on nothing more than the thrill of seeing yet another comic book superhero costume given a faithful recreation on film.

MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!

19:02 / 10.09.07

Well, for me, it's in large part seeing Robert Downey Jr. nailing Tony Stark as an alcoholic, arrogant, way-too-smart jerk who is going to hit some severe personal setbacks and be forced to re-evaluate everything about his life...

...as a robot that kicks the crap out of stuff and makes it explode.

I'm not a super-hero or nostalgia-movie fanboy -- haven't seen Superman Returns, Spider-Man 3, Transformers, etc. -- but Downey Jr. is a hell of an actor, and Iron Man is a fun concept (one of the early Stan Lee greats... his power is his weakness, and if the armor stops working he dies!).

It also seems like an easy movie to make a total hash of, and from the trailer, it looks at least competent. After seeing concepts as straightforward as Daredevil and the Punisher get screwed up, what looks like even a pretty good Iron Man movie gets a tip of the hat for tackling one of the trickier concepts (both in terms of effects and character).

19:19 / 10.09.07

Somebody's going to have to explain why this is meant to be awesome. Preferably without the argument relying on nothing more than the thrill of seeing yet another comic book superhero costume given a faithful recreation on film.

Ozzy Osbourne going "I am Iron Man" through whatever weird vocal distortion and then the BIG RIFF as a dude in a bulletproof suit starts shooting fire out of his hands.

I suppose it helps if you grew up trying to figure out what the song had to do with the orange and red suit. (This figuring would take place about two hours later into the evening after the first "who would win in a fight between..." discussion, and right before the second one.)

And for the not-seeing-superhero-movie cred, I haven't seen all the ones on Shepherd's list PLUS the Silver Surfer one. And I just saw 300 for the first time last night. (Best part: watching wife & stepdaughter talk about Spartan abs, eyes wide.)

19:25 / 10.09.07

What, do 12-year-olds not learn to play those five notes on guitars in music shops around the world? Is that not universal ROCK?

My Mom Thinks I'm Cool

19:33 / 10.09.07

finally got it to work on a lower setting!

I think it's got a decent actor and will of course have good special effects. really it all comes down to whether the script and/or dialog were written by a fuckhead, or not.

judging by the trailer, my vote is for fuckhead. hard to tell from the little bit we can see, but it seemed like tony goes from asshole to super hero in one day, which is simultaneously the one day he has to invent and build power armor (which is also a pacemaker) using missile parts and a welding setup...which may have worked in a comic 50 years ago but seems pretty stupid right now. also found most of the dialog annoying. but we'll see.

I thought the Ironman song was about something totally different. aren't the lyrics about crazy time traveling living statue magical journey revenge or something? or were you kidding?

MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!

19:37 / 10.09.07

I haven't seen all the ones on Shepherd's list PLUS the Silver Surfer one.

I forgot that movie even came out. SNAP!

And there's no connection between the Sabbath tune and the Marvel super-hero. Other than that just forged by M. Favreau and company.

ONLY NICE THINGS

19:42 / 10.09.07

It's all Pro Tools and ringtones. Pro Tools and ringtones. Kids got no respect for organic instruments these days - oh, hang on. That's my next suit.

Regrettable Juvenilia

20:25 / 10.09.07

judging by the trailer, my vote is for fuckhead. hard to tell from the little bit we can see, but it seemed like tony goes from asshole to super hero in one day

Man, more like thirty seconds! And then the whole thing is over in a couple of minutes! This film looks so rushed! What's with all the really short scenes? This is going to suOH MY GOD I'M GOING TO KILL MYSELF. I'M GOING TO KILL MYSELF AND IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT.

21:52 / 10.09.07

*blink*

00:50 / 11.09.07

I thought the Ironman song was about something totally different.

Yeah, but you're not 12. And you don't BELIEVE, do you.

I actually had this whole mythology built up around members of Black Sabbath seeing the comic in a store or something but, like, never having enough money to buy one, so they just looked at the cover and made up what was going on inside as best they could based on cover art.

Which now that I think about it, is probably pretty close to how it actually happened... or did Ted Hughes have anything to do with it?

Anyway, in the magical land of total rockitude, the DAN-DAN-DUH-DUH-DANG totally has to do with repulsor beams and armor. Totally. Somehow. Which is why that's a beautiful preview.

Songfacts. He turns to IRON. I wish I could find audio of the Henry Rollins close reading. I have an excerpt on a mixtape somewhere.

ONLY NICE THINGS

05:10 / 11.09.07

He turns to steel, actually. And, having turned to steel, he puts on some lead boots. God knows why, since lead is notably less durable than steel, and it seems unlikely that he is in danger of floating away, which is why one would usually put on lead boots.

It's all a bit affected, really, isn't it?

12:05 / 11.09.07

Are you implying—are you even suggesting—that the lyrics, nay the poetry of Sir John James Osbourne OBE (presumptive) is not a 100% accurate reflection of the modern human condition? Perish the thought.

ONLY NICE THINGS

12:16 / 11.09.07

If they had had any balls at all, they would have played the entire Ghostface Killa album IronMan, and lengthened the trailer to fit.

My Mom Thinks I'm Cool

12:36 / 11.09.07

Man, more like thirty seconds! And then the whole thing is over in a couple of minutes

I'm going to go ahead and quote myself here:

"hard to say from the little we can see, but..."

the pieces that are there made it look rushed. he's gung ho. he's attacked and injured. he's given a one day ultimatum to build a rocket. he builds the suit.

maybe there's a long delay in between the attack and the building of the suit but it didn't look like it to me.

I suppose it was rather irresponsible of me not to have gone forward in time, watched the movie, and then come back to now so that my speculations about the movie would be more accurate, rather than making speculations based on the information we currently have, which is clearly not what this thread is for.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

13:23 / 11.09.07

To be honest, I'd be happy with a ninety minute Black Sabbath video. With stuff exploding.

15:14 / 11.09.07

I'm much happier with the preview as it is.

Do we need separate "preview" threads now? Man.

15:14 / 11.09.07

After 40 minutes or so, my head would hurt, I'm sure.

15:15 / 11.09.07

FROM BANGING!

19:39 / 11.09.07

Durr dur dur du duur didu didu didu di dur dur dur

19:50 / 11.09.07

I just downloaded the Iron Man beat to be my cellphone ring tone

God,I hope people start calling more often. Specially when I'm in crowded elevators/lifts.

yeah!

19:00 / 20.11.07

Now you can be excited:

Ghostface lands cameo in IRON MAN(!!!!)

Quoth Starks, baby: "It was a good look for the kid because Robert Downey Jr. recognized me as soon as I seen him. He was like, 'Yo, Tony!' ... For him to recognize me, I was kinda surprised by that. I didn't know he even knew about the kid. ... We called each other Tony onscreen. I'm like, 'Tony Stark, I got your jet, I didn't mess it up.' He was like, 'I got the Bentley for you, I laced it up.' I had two girls with me, I was like, 'That's you [pointing toward the girls].' I sent two birds at him. It was a wrap for that scene. He's a cool dude and funny. Big up to Robert Downey Jr."

Keith, like a scientist

20:29 / 20.11.07

That scene sounds....confusing.

22:06 / 20.11.07

That is the best news Barbelith has ever had. I cannot believe how happy it makes me and how much it makes me want to see the film more.

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