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Operation Coincidence Driver

 
  

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Evil Scientist
08:15 / 14.03.06
My submission is to sigilize the movie V for Vendetta and cause it to become widely popular and successful and become a rallying point for mass political and social change favoring freedom and the rights of the individual.

Boost the sales of a major media company's product huh? Way to stick it to The Man.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
08:48 / 14.03.06
*Tch* You'll be telling us next that South Park isn't subversive.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
09:01 / 14.03.06
Hang on... so, if a movie does well, that will be proof that this group of people have magic powers?

I don't see the methodological logic, here.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
09:02 / 14.03.06
you could take a comic book by a 'subversive' writer which isn't doing very well due to it's unconventional ideas and do a mass sigil, spreading the meme of self-ironical play and situationist allegory, bringing about a collapse in totalising discourse narratives and the birth of a whole new notion of selfhood...

no, hang on...

er, that's been done.

sorry
 
 
Evil Scientist
10:16 / 14.03.06
a comic book by a 'subversive' writer which isn't doing very well due to it's unconventional ideas and do a mass sigil

Which, it must be remembered, resulted in the instigator of said sigil being nearly killed by massive infections. So obviously take care when you're boosting the sales of, already well-advertised and marketted, films.

(Although I tend to attribute the increase in sales of said book to the writer introducing a much more action-orientated storyline than to the sigilisation. But then I'm a cynic.).
 
 
Sekhmet
12:39 / 14.03.06
Since the rain thing seems to work so well, howsabout we make it rain on the Texas panhandle and put out the wildfires?
 
 
Kylark
15:41 / 14.03.06
Which, it must be remembered, resulted in the instigator of said sigil being nearly killed by massive infections.

This may be unrelated, but I was really, really sick yesterday. I'm almost never sick. I wondered if it may have been due to our little working. There have been other discussions here of people who are involved in magic getting physically ill as a result.

Which isn't to say that I'm not willing to try again. It very well could've been unrelated.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
16:01 / 14.03.06
Well I just trapped my finger in a drawer and I'm only reading this thread!

Seriously tho', if you're going to start worry about getting sick, or your hamster exploding, or bringing about some unforseen consequence as a result of doing magic, you'll never get anything done.

And Evil, did Morrison actually say that it was the mass sigilisation that brung him low?
 
 
zoemancer
17:39 / 14.03.06
Ok well I was afraid that my submission might not be well received but that's ok. I think the rain on the panhandle ide a is a good one as well. I second that submission.

O.T. - Ya know about the whole "stickin it to the man" thing-- honestly it's getting harder for me to distinguish who exactly "the man" is anymore. Yes V is being released by a major media company but the whole idea behind the movie seems to run counter to alot of state sponsored brainwashing going in regards to the whole terrorist thing.

It makes me wonder if the big media company and "the man" are actually working together here. I mean why would "the man" allow for a movie like this to even make it to the screens? It seems counter intutitive. Confusing to say the least.
 
 
Kylark
18:14 / 14.03.06
I mean why would "the man" allow for a movie like this to even make it to the screens?

As a cathartic release valve. Or because the best way to disarm the resistance is to commoditize it and sell it back to itself.

Or because "the man" is not a single entity, but a series of interlocking apparatuses whose chief purpose is to make money.
 
 
Dead Megatron
19:02 / 14.03.06
I mean why would "the man" allow for a movie like this to even make it to the screens? It seems counter intutitive. Confusing to say the least.

That's how "the man" operates, dude (one of many tatics, at least). I always say, if you're not confused, you're misinformed
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
19:28 / 14.03.06
Wow! Have you read Matrix Warrior too?!
 
 
zoemancer
02:44 / 15.03.06
hrmmm...got some pondering to do. In the meantime please submit your idea for our next target so we can vote on it and get back on track with the purpose of this here thread.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
07:12 / 15.03.06
All mickeytaking aside, I think you guys were better off with the rain-making project.
 
 
Evil Scientist
07:16 / 15.03.06
And Evil, did Morrison actually say that it was the mass sigilisation that brung him low?

I'll have a look through the letters columns around that time when I get home tonight for specific quotery. I do recall him saying that the sickness was brought on by all the energy being generated, and that he'd been overwhelmed by it.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
07:32 / 15.03.06
Zoemancer

It makes me wonder if the big media company and "the man" are actually working together here.

You might find Guy Debord's The Society of the Spectacle useful reading.

And Mark Downham's Videodrome: The thing in Room 101 may be worth a glance - if you can find it (first published in Vague magazine, 1987):

The Videodrome has its roots in the stimulus-addictive spectacular commodity-culture and it is realised and reified through the commodity in fashion, style, newness. The spectacular videodrome generates subliminal overstimulation and this hype leads to a craving for more stimulus for its own sake. The Videodrome through the television screen, in words, sound, vision, visual imagery; releases spores, pheromones which make us gorge ourselves on it, always wanting more, whether it's tactile, sexual, phenomenal, social, material or emotional - seeking what we can never find, the realization of our desire. The video-spectacular pulse inserts a permanent feeling of dissatisfaction of the senses, identity, personality, it collapses each new construct it proffers, it collapses new people. This is an ever-accelerating law of diminishing returns - craving, production, consumption, simulation, excitation, stimulation, craving - the videodrome spectacular hype is never over.

The videodrome is the deepest fix you'll ever crave and it's a craving stimulus junkies never kick.'
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
10:01 / 15.03.06
Or maybe The Man is just a really big Natalie Portman fan. I hear he thought that rap she did on Saturday Night Live was hilarious!
 
 
Dead Megatron
11:05 / 15.03.06
Wow! Have you read Matrix Warrior too?!

Well, no. But, to be honest, I stole that catch phrase from a magazine ad from about 15 years ago.

Is that Matrix Warrior a comic book? Or a MMORPG? 'Cause it sound like it.
 
 
illmatic
11:06 / 15.03.06
It's my bible. Make it yours.
 
 
zoemancer
13:34 / 15.03.06
Trouser thanks for the suggested reading I will check it out.

No one else is submitting targets so I move that we go with the making it rain in the Texas panhandle to help put out the fires that are there causing a lot of damage.

The target date for our intention to begin is tomorrow March 16th. All day tomorrow everyone focus their intention, do a ritual, fire a sigil or whatever your method is to bring just enough rain to the Texas panhandle to put out the wild fires burning there now.

On you mark..get set...GO!
 
 
Olulabelle
15:45 / 15.03.06
I'm not entirely sure that Alan Moore wants V for Vendetta to be a wild success. (His Culture Show interview.)

I too am intrigued as to how you would qualify whether this worked or not. Can you not pick a more specific target, be scientific about your approach? It's quite likely that V for Vendetta is going to do well regardless of any group working.
 
 
Wombat
16:25 / 15.03.06
Started basic research and legwork.
What`s with all those fields that look like pie charts?
 
 
Wombat
16:55 / 15.03.06


These things.
 
 
zoemancer
21:02 / 15.03.06
Wombat -- I dunno what those pie charts are, that's interesting. I guess that's just how they got the fields laid out for some reason.

OK and now for the record. Please just forget that I mentioned sigilizing V for Vendetta, that was an off the cuff suggestion and wasn't very well thought out and let's focus on the current target which is rain in the Texas panhandle to put out those fires. Also we can do a wind reduction as well. This is a target that we will be able to monitor for measurable results.
 
 
Dead Megatron
00:32 / 16.03.06
It's my bible. Make it yours.


must... obey... command...can't... resist... hipnotic... sugestion

If there's an online version, I'll look it up.

(it may take a while though, since I'm currently reading the gospels, the Tao Te King, and the I Ching. And Terry Pratchet)
 
 
Sam T.
03:44 / 16.03.06
Just started reading the online chapter.

Gawking. From a few pages, it looks excellent. At least, I dig it.

'Let's stop talking about the weather', it advise, quite funnily.
 
 
Wombat
04:09 / 16.03.06
Looks like storms on Satuday and a good chance of rain on Friday. Wind reduction would be good and a change in direction from SSW to SW would get the storm system developing a little earlier for the panhandle.

Current plan is to build a digital model of the panhandle and weather . Then change the weather in the model. (Yeah I know ... about as effective as slapping my spear into paintings of animals to improve the hunt). Hopefully a more elegant solution will appear during the work.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
04:19 / 16.03.06
It's my bible. Make it yours.

You forgot the irony tags again didn't you Illmatic?
 
 
zoemancer
04:22 / 16.03.06
Current plan is to build a digital model of the panhandle and weather

Build a digital model of the panhandle and weather? I bet you used to bulls-eye womprats in your T-16 back home to...

Wombat that sounds pretty freaking amazing how exactly are you handling that?
 
 
Wombat
04:56 / 16.03.06
I downloaded the DEM (digital elevation model) for the counties in the panhandle. Used a standard DEM viewer to create an image then used that as a backdrop for an app.
(So I downloaded some files and looked at em ... not much effort). 2 DEMs stitched together here.
Hmmm..you can see the join...shoddy.

Weather model will be using a 2D fluid dynamics sim... I`ll bung in some interaction with the terrain model.
 
 
Wombat
05:23 / 16.03.06
Or I could have just gone to
http://www.nohrsc.nws.gov
and get a much better model with all the data I need in real time.
You live and learn.
 
 
Sam T.
07:54 / 16.03.06
You forgot the irony tags again didn't you Illmatic

Fell out my bed last night (litterally), smoked some for the first time in a long time. Stumbled upon this. Made suddenly a lot of sense.

OK, I'll go and reread it later then
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:12 / 16.03.06
While Illmatic cradles his head in his hands and sobs gently, let me explain: the book Matrix Warrior by Jake Horsley is agreed by several people on this board to be one of the most (depending on your point of view) laughable and/or pernicious texts published in the last five years. It is an unholy mix of self-help book, gnostic burblings and third-rate pop culture critique, of which the best that can be said is that it gets to the heart of what the philosophy of the film The Matrix is, and why it appeals to so many terrible, terrible people: i.e., YOU (and maybe your heroes and mates) are special, YOU are enlightened and have teh secret knowledge, other people are sleeping and do not want to wake up, given that they are unwilling to wake up it is essentially okay for you to shoot them. Sadly rather than critiquing these ideas, the author endorses them, coining the term "humatons" to describe the unenlightened (because they're not real people, see?).
 
 
Evil Scientist
09:25 / 16.03.06
Gawking. From a few pages, it looks excellent. At least, I dig it

Weird, because I just read it and thought it was some of the trashiest cod-philosophy I've ever read.

This can't be a serious work can it? It has to be an attempt at satirising the films?

It's just....bleurgh.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
09:32 / 16.03.06
No. I'm sorry, but the guy is totally serious.

*Passes tissues*
 
  

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