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The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Black Dossier

 
  

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This Sunday
06:17 / 25.06.06
Isn't there set to be 3D and pop-up-styled bits to this one? How's that to work in an oversized without messing up the effects?
 
 
DavidXBrunt
10:44 / 25.06.06
Doubt I'll be able to resist buying this AND the seemingly innevitable Absolute Edition.

Whilst I've been waiting for this I've been passing the time watching the Moore related discussions over at the John Byrne Forum - they don't like him one little bit and it's been fun to see Byrne dismiss everyone in the U.K. as Nihilistic Whingers and describe a member of his own board as an asshole because he intends to buy Lost Girls.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
17:10 / 25.06.06
DavidXBrunt- I've been doing the same thing! I think it was in a Moore thread (the one about Miracleman, unless I'm very much mistaken) where B*rne describes the welfare state as one of the most destructive inventions of the 20th Century... there also seems to be an awful lot of Thatcher-nostalgia from people who were neither living here when she was in power nor having to deal with the effects of her legacy.

Anyway, back to the League- surely pop-up bits would work BETTER in large format?
 
 
Essential Dazzler
17:50 / 25.06.06
It's a shame they don't enjoy non Byrne fans wading in, makes for an interesting spectator sport though. Apparently, Moore has no stories in him other than "everything you know is a lie" and anyone looking forward to Lost Girls is an asshole. Well that's me told.

I'm confused about this. Are there definitely going to be a regular and absolute edition of this?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
17:55 / 25.06.06
Ooh, I see- how to do the pop-up bits in two different formats could be a problem. Yeah, that makes sense.
 
 
DavidXBrunt
07:01 / 26.06.06
Atari, as far as I know there's only the regular announced at the moment but give it a year or two and there'll as like as not be an Absolute.

Stoatie, I know well that JB (as his fans call him) said that about the welfare state as it was in reply to a post of mine. I took great pleasure in outlining why I thought he was wrong.
 
 
This Sunday
07:40 / 26.06.06
To clarify: I was thinking of size, really, with the 3-D element, as the illusion of depth/protrusion of the standard red/blue trick doesn't work so great if you can't focus on pretty much all of the image at once. As to the pop-up bit(s), I'd imagine the oversizing would require a sturdier paper to handle the bend/fold/pop-out in repetition, since you'd presume the book would be written/used more than once.

It may be in Moore's interest, and of some artistic note, that these elements not work great... or at least, as with pages falling out of old 'Arkham Asylum' editions, prove entertaining to the creators and possibly require repurchase, which would bring up sales. As it is, since I'm the only person apparently wondering about it, perhaps I'm just paranoid and these things'll work out fine.

In any case, is there still a 'Volume Three' on the way past this, or was the bit about this being an in-between before the next volume, actually all misinformation?
 
 
sleazenation
08:24 / 26.06.06
It was put to me by an editor friend that part of the reason for Moore employing all the elaborate paper engineering in the black dossier was at least in part because it would be such a pain for DC to deal with...
 
 
DavidXBrunt
15:57 / 26.06.06
There's been much talk recently of volume three proper, and as far as I know that's still in the works.
 
 
FinderWolf
17:07 / 26.06.06
That'll be published by Top Shelf, though, right? I recall that Dark Dossier will be the last thing Moore does with DC/Wildstorm; after that he's taking his LOEG toys over to Top Shelf for Vol. 3 and any further volumes.
 
 
DavidXBrunt
17:07 / 26.06.06
And of the Lost Girls thread at the John Byrne Forum, well, J.B. has closed down the thread. Joyously a new poster rationally and calmly argued for Lost Girls and cited Alan Moore extensivley. Byrne quibbled over a date, declared himself triumphant, the boarder a dickweed and apparantly is beginning to think he's waster 30 years of his life.
 
 
iamus
00:56 / 27.06.06
Wasted 30 years of his life?


Byrne's older than 30.
 
 
LDones
10:58 / 12.09.06
It was just announced that this book's been delayed 'indefinitely', though Newsarama goes on to say this will mean a 2007 release.

Heres the text.

In another news revealed at DC’s retailer presentation, Alan Moore and Kevin O’Neill’s The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: The Black Dossier graphic novel, which was solicited for an October release, has been delayed indefinitely.

According to DC, a new in-store date will be announced as soon as possible. As a result of the delay, the book will be made returnable for retailers at a later date.

The will be the last League of Extraordinary Gentlemen project publish through DC/Wildstorm/ABC before Moore moves the property to Top Shelf, publisher of his current Lost Girls graphic novel.

“With Black Dossier Kevin O'Neill is producing the work of his career,” Wildstorm’s Scott Dunbier told Newsarama in response to the news. “ Unfortunately, due to his intense eye for detail and the complex nature of the book, it is also turning out to be the slowest project he has ever done. Wildstorm, through its ABC imprint, will be publishing the book in 2007. Alan and Kevin hope readers who have waited so patiently will feel it's worth the wait, I know I do.”
 
 
Mario
11:46 / 12.09.06
Has a League story EVER shipped on schedule? Not that I mind, of course.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
16:43 / 12.09.06
Ah well. I'm sure it'll be worth the wait. It is LOEG, after all.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
11:17 / 13.09.06
Yeah fuck it. It's only another year of my life.
 
 
Colonel Kadmon
23:53 / 14.09.06
Is anyone else getting the impression that Moore's "retirement from mainstream comics" meant "a retirement from deadlines"? All the gimmicks (CD, 3-D glasses, etc.) give me concern, too.

This better be fucking good. What was the last thing he actually put out? The last Tom Strong, itself somrthing like 3 months late, and not even that good? And what about this novel?

I don't even care how long I have to wait for his stuff - I just wish he wouldn't say it's ready if it isn't.
 
 
Cowboy Scientist
22:44 / 02.02.07
News about vol 3.

Also, the bit about London in the Sixties?
Two words: Jerry Cornelius.

Hmm, Tadukic Acid... time-traveller junkies?
 
 
FinderWolf
22:46 / 02.02.07
I was just thinking of bumping this thread but figured 'ah, it's so far in the future that what's the use?' But glad to see someone beat me to it Can't wait for this!
 
 
FinderWolf
22:51 / 02.02.07
10 bucks says George Bush is the Moonchild. *jk*

So we get Dark Dossier AND this upcoming CENTURY book...my LOEG cup runneth over.
 
 
The Timaximus, The!
01:03 / 03.02.07
Thoroughly. Modern. Mina. Murray.

Nice.

Umm, "the eternal warrior Orlando?" Isn't 1910 before/at the end of the novel, when she's driving to and from the department store? Still, awesome. I want to see Pig Bodine in this one.
 
 
Janean Patience
07:25 / 03.02.07
Great. I was wondering when we were going to see Raffles. Copyright's 75 years in the UK, isn't it? Do the delays in producing the book mean more and more characters are becoming available?
 
 
The Natural Way
10:14 / 03.02.07
Finder, it sounds like this might actually be replacing the Black Dossier, so don't get too excited just yet. Just think we should be cautious lest we get hurt. In our hearts.

Very happy about this, but miserable that it's going to take one whole year.
 
 
Triplets
10:32 / 03.02.07
Yeah, it sounds like the Dark Doss might have been stripped down for chapter one. So, in a sense, we do get both. But we don't.

But then we do.
 
 
Spaniel
15:30 / 03.02.07
It is good but it is future
 
 
FinderWolf
20:03 / 03.02.07
I thought for sure there was one project left coming out from DC/Wildstorm, which is Dark Dossier (I even read something about DC/Wildstorm editors having a rough time with the multi-media 3D hardcover huge size of the edition, plus Rich Johnston's speculation that Moore put all this crazy format stuff in for fun and also as a final 'make those guys at DC/Wildstorm really WORK for my final book for them!!', and then the Top Shelf book. From everything I've read, that's still the case, although I could be wrong of course...
 
 
Rachel Melmoth
21:08 / 03.02.07
Black Dossier is still on the Wildstorm website, set for a release date of October 24 (!). I'm fairly certain that they're separate things.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
21:09 / 03.02.07
Rich Johnston's speculation that Moore put all this crazy format stuff in for fun and also as a final 'make those guys at DC/Wildstorm really WORK for my final book for them!!'

Yeah, but what if RJ was essentially a bitter, angry and tiresome disgrace for a human being? Certainly, nothing I've read in Rich Johnston's column as lead me, personally, to a different conclusion.

What I'm taking away from this, myself, is that Johnston is basically a load of shit.
 
 
FinderWolf
15:06 / 04.02.07
Thanks for confirming the separateness, Jack (as far as we know in the present moment)! More LoeG goodies for us; callooh, callay!
 
 
doctorbeck
08:20 / 05.02.07
Amazon are certainly claiming to have it ready to ship in less than 4 weeks time:

Product details

Hardcover: 208 pages
Publisher: Titan Books Ltd (23 Feb 2007)
Language English
ISBN-10: 1845761324
ISBN-13: 978-1845761325
Product Dimensions: 6.7 x 10.2 inches

looking forward to this very much
 
 
Spaniel
08:26 / 05.02.07
God, I hope so.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:34 / 05.02.07
"Publisher: Titan Books"? I thought one is by WildStorm and the other is by TopShelf?
 
 
Mario
14:38 / 05.02.07
I would guess that's the UK version
 
 
Aha! I am Klarion
15:45 / 05.02.07
SO is that Crowley on the cover of volume 3, or is that the main character from the book "the Moonchild?"
 
 
Mario
15:59 / 05.02.07
Possibly Carnacki.
 
  

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