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The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Black Dossier

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eddie thirteen

20:54 / 16.02.06

'Twas Dracula. I forget where I found the interview, but Moore has said that the LoEG Dracula sports teeth akin to that of a vampire bat; evidently, vampire bats kinda sink their teeth in and whip their heads from side to side, thereby thoroughly mutilating their victims. I'd never heard this before, but...?

Sniv

20:55 / 16.02.06

If it ain't in the text, it ain't in the text Chad. I'm pretty sure she mentions something about them hardly being the neat punture wounds of legend when Alan reacts to them in the bed scene, so I'm sure they're vamp-marks.

LDones

20:56 / 16.02.06

I've never heard that. Moore said in interviews before Vol.2 was even out that his idea was that Dracula'd chewed the hell out of her neck, so instead of bite marks she has hideous scarring.

Hence the line "Not quite the two discreet puncture marks of legend, are they?"

This Sunday

20:57 / 16.02.06

Dorian Grey doesn't show up other than as a sight gag/allusion in the background of the museumy-room, does he?

Spaniel

21:03 / 16.02.06

I really don't think so, Chad. In fact, I remember Nina saying something very much along the lines of "not the neat puncture marks of fairytales, are they?".

Check volume two for more details.

LDones

21:05 / 16.02.06

Wow, we all piled on that one, didn't we?

matsya

21:47 / 16.02.06

No, Chad - in v.2 Mina definitely said that they were...

Oh.

I'll get me coat.

Mr Tricks

22:03 / 16.02.06

. . . AND ANOTHER THING CHAD!!!

oh nevermind . . .

Aertho

01:26 / 17.02.06

Strike 2

Thanks ya'll. No, seriously. Volume two where Mina says she feared nothing... where are my books? Anyway, it was the part where Hyde asks her if frightened her, and she seemed to imply that one thing did frighten her, and it was not whatever did the mess to her neck. I took it as her ex Johnathan scared the hell out of her, and was violently abusive following her incident with Vlad.

...

I'm looking for my books.

Aertho

02:06 / 17.02.06

Okay, found my books. I overread the text. Drac mauled the poor girl, and Drac was a worse bastard than Hyde. Somehow it mangled and changed in my head.

Spaniel

06:05 / 17.02.06

Oh, you and your overexcited imagination.

One of these days I'm going to have to get you and Gumbitch together.

Evil Scientist

06:54 / 17.02.06

Dracula sports teeth akin to that of a vampire bat; evidently, vampire bats kinda sink their teeth in and whip their heads from side to side, thereby thoroughly mutilating their victims

The Moore interview I read had it as being a pre-Stoker part of the vampire legends. Vampires are supposed to scrape their victims necks and lick the blood from the shallow wounds.

S'what I hear anyway.

misterpc

04:21 / 20.02.06

Back to that preview picture: is it just me, or does the (possibly) young Alan have Mina-style bite marks all over his neck?

8===>Q: alyn

05:04 / 20.02.06

Look

at

the

MIRROR!

Evil Scientist

07:12 / 20.02.06

Eep!

Mario

13:06 / 20.02.06

I can't tell... It could just be an ascot or scarf. OTOH, AJ just fired his rifle, and both of them are holding bloody weapons.

The mirror looks suspiciously posed. Almost like a portrait.

_Boboss

13:47 / 20.02.06

they're both loooking a little 'consumptive' there though. could the fountain of youth stuff in mina's diary that we saw in the last book be her own polite gloss for 'i vamped im good and proper'?? ? 11!!

no, because getting vamped is going to freeze you at that age, not actively turn the clock back. arse.

This Sunday

16:52 / 20.02.06

How do we know, exacrtly, that a bite from a vampire would stop you right at your physical age and affix you there permanent? There's plenty of (even, era specific) stories with younging-up or rejuvenating vampires. Varney and his moonlight. Even in Stoker's 'Dracula' isn't our lovely Count perking up a bit, as things progress, getting the blush back in his cheeks and a suppleness to skin, et cetera, that goes along easily with youth-isation?
It would be about time to start dragging Dracula and Holmes into things and jump the shark. It's the elephant in the room. Or the shark and the elephant in the really tiny room giving you disturbing looks, each of them, and gnashing their teeth.
It is, however, not Mina and Alan in the mirror, but two other individuals.
And I think Quatermain's just got something wrapped around his neck. Which, might imply a need to cover up, but, then again...

sleazenation

16:57 / 20.02.06

So is in the format of a comic strip or is it more akin to the almanac sections and the text adventures...?

8===>Q: alyn

17:02 / 20.02.06

If I hope it is more of the former and less of the latter, does that make me a sub-literate mouthbreather?

This Sunday

17:07 / 20.02.06

The text bits in both series have been entertaining enough, but the formatting of them, those very, very cramped columns? Why? Either flush it across the page, widen the columns a tad, or in some way adjust the type.
Still, whatever the form and content, I eagerly await this oneshot to be mostly released and then suffer some delay. Because it wouldn't be The League without.
And if Nemo turns out to have been Dracula disguised as Sherlock Holmes all this time? I'll just sit in the corner and go mad.

Mario

17:41 / 20.02.06

I might remind you folks that Mina showed no evidence of vampirism in the actual comics, only in the movie (which I saw last night, oddly enough).

Mr Tricks

17:46 / 20.02.06

Wasn't she "cured" by the end of the original Novel?

This Sunday

18:18 / 20.02.06

Aah, don't kill our speculation with mere facts and examples!
If Mina is, in fact, infected with some sort of vampiric... um... infection, she could carry it around in her bloodstream for who knows how long before complications arise and become notable.
Not that I think she does/is/was/or will be a vampire. But, simply, that she could. But, isn't.

We don't really know anything about the central thematic or plot-driving thread of this one, do we? The first series had its high concept gimmick, the second had a backbone of Wells' novel, but, this...? If it's just simply a dossier-style recounting, I shall be annoyed and disappointed and buy it anyway. Moore doesn't like those ficto-info-guides, though, does he? So maybe we'll be spared.

Bastard Tweed

19:10 / 21.02.06

Mrpc: Back to that preview picture: is it just me, or does the (possibly) young Alan have Mina-style bite marks all over his neck?

Decrescent: And I think Quatermain's just got something wrapped around his neck.

I'd be willing to lay good hypothetical money that that's the collar to the old chain-mail shirt he wore from back when he was gallivanting about in Africa.

FinderWolf

13:09 / 05.06.06

This was mentioned at the recent Philly DC/WildStorm panel, who knows if it's been retitled or if the Black/Dark Dossier thing is just a mistake on the part of those who took notes from the convention. Nothing much really new here; but it's still on the map/schedule at least...

>> The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen will return with "LOEG: Black Dossier" by creators Alan Moore and Kevin O'Neil. The hardcover graphic novel will follow a rejuvenated Alan Quartermain and the ageless Mina Harker as they try to recover the secret dossier on the activities of the league.

The book is more than two hundred pages and is chock full of extras, like a Tijuana Bible style insert and a 3-D section with will include the requisite glass. All that for a possibly reasonable price that Wayne couldn't remember at the time.

This Sunday

15:30 / 05.06.06

After 'Lost Girls' had its price announcement, I'd figure 'reasonably priced' might take on new scale with Moore-works.

Still, I'll be buying - perhaps delayed, but still buying - so I can't complain too much. And, hey, 3D glasses! Can't go wrong with that! I mean, it made 'Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters' kick ass, it's got to improve an LoEG book, right?

Spaniel

19:31 / 05.06.06

The book is more than two hundred pages

WHATWHAT? THE SEXY DANCE BEGINS AGAIN!

Spaniel

19:39 / 05.06.06

Amazon.co.uk have the Absolute League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: The Black Dossier scheduled for a Jan 2007 release at a cost of £35. The listing also gives it a page count of 208.

That's pretty much as long as the other collected LOEG books. I can't quite believe I'm going to get such a huge dose of League goodness all at once.

This Sunday

19:51 / 05.06.06

Two hundred pages, plus, all in one fancy package, but never fear, parts will still be late.

Have I mentioned how much happier I was, in anticipating this book, after Moore admitted in interviews that he wouldn't be doing as much research as on the previous two League volumes, but playing parts from memory? I really, truly and honestly believe his works would be much better a little faster and less structured. It's that intensive structuring I know so many love, but it just annoys me - and I can't be the only one.

The Timaximus, The!

23:55 / 19.06.06

It's in the September solicits, and ORLANDO is on the cover! It's going to be very difficult to wait for the Absolute Edition on this one, but I really don't want to pay for it twice...

Regrettable Juvenilia

08:42 / 20.06.06

As they say: dinner.

Jack Fear

10:57 / 20.06.06

Any thoughts on the identities of the others? I'm guessing that's Fanny Hill, Moll Flanders, Tom Thumb, and Gloriana the Faerie Queen in the grouping to the left...

Also: not so much of the "Gentlemen" this time around, eh?

Jack Fear

11:01 / 20.06.06

Of course, that cover could be a total feint: they've done it to us before—in the case of LoEG II giving us an entire first issue that amounted to one enormous red herring...

easytiger

05:53 / 25.06.06

Now this I've been waiting for for what seems like far too long. That's Alan Moore's little trick, though, isn't it?

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