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7 Soldiers: The Bulleteer

 
  

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Aertho
16:02 / 02.11.05
Hm.

So far I'm not that impressed with the second wave Soldiers. The pencils weren't that tight here either. Alix seems like a decent enough lady, but I almost wish it was her pervy husband who was the star of the book. We'll see. Maybe she'll develop a fetish of her own.
 
 
LDones
20:55 / 02.11.05
That's just Paquette's style, I think. I found the pencils much tighter than on the last Terra Obscura mini.

Chad, I think you're spot on in your previous observation of female-trapped-in-male themes here, encased in a bullet/phallus, identity/illusions all out of whack. Even her name is a man's name.

Wonder what caused that train crash. Wonder if she really is a robot replacing herself.

"All I'm saying is youth doesn't last forever. Unless you're a superhero." Ouch. More meta on the permanent adolescence of superhero comics (and/or audience of same).

I'm excited about this one, the emotional possibilities are interesting.
 
 
Mario
21:04 / 02.11.05
There's another subtext I picked up in issue #1.

Alix is an ordinary person who gains extraordinary powers thanks to what amounts to an industrial accident. After a tragedy, she decides she must use her powers to benefit mankind.

She's Spider-man ("With great power..."). She's Daredevil. She's Silver Age Marvel in a smartskin package.
 
 
Aertho
21:22 / 02.11.05
Horrible masthead. Still think Zatanna's the best of all thus far.

And this makes no sense, but I have to throw this in now, lest I forget:

"A spear, not thrown." The late Mr. Harrower's first name is Lance.
 
 
Triplets
21:28 / 02.11.05
Masthead? You mean logo? That's an ace logo, Chaddy. It conveys speed and penetration in a slick package. All they need to do is get rid of the 3D underlay which distracts the eye rilly.
 
 
Triplets
21:29 / 02.11.05
"A spear, not thrown." The late Mr. Harrower's first name is Lance.

So she's going to beat up Gloriana with the corpse of her husband? Rock!
 
 
Aertho
21:40 / 02.11.05
Re: Masthead.

I get it. But I, like you, would've preferrred less drop shadows and gradient work. It's just too heavy.

And death by corpse? I wish.
 
 
Mario
21:42 / 02.11.05
Oh yes...and there's an art variance on the cover. Her gloves are red inside.
 
 
rabideyemovement
00:03 / 03.11.05
Maybe they just wanted to imply more nudity by showing the gloves as silver. I didn't notice she was wearing gloves until the end.
 
 
Aertho
00:29 / 03.11.05
A soldier must die!

We should all know by now Grant puts his redheads six feet under.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
00:31 / 03.11.05
Getting this first thing in the morning. So excited!
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
01:19 / 03.11.05
is this out already?

well, dunno if it was mentioned before, but this Bulleteer is apparently based on the original Bulletman and Bulletwoman [who used to appear in Captain Marvel's comics], so the couple thing is there for more than on reason:


 
 
Aertho
01:40 / 03.11.05
Bulletman meets David Spade?
 
 
Mark Parsons
03:25 / 03.11.05
God, this really bummed me out! My first read was hugely dissapointing. Story was thin, invention was absent, art was not up to Panthingamie's standard in TERRA OBSCURA.

It'll have to get better, cus, this is the worst of 7S thus far (all the prior issues amazing IMO)...

**sigh**
 
 
A
04:09 / 03.11.05
Seven Soldiers: The Adventures of Chesty La Rue #1 wasn't too bad. It showed a lot of promise and I'm eagerly anticipating #2, but did anyone else think that the comic could have done with some more topless scenes? She could have a bigger rack, too.
 
 
LDones
06:31 / 03.11.05
Let's discuss this. The issue of sexist/misogynistic/over-sexualized female portrayals in superhero comics and the use of overtly sexualized imagery in the Bulleteer.

This is only the first issue but it's already apparent that the visual sexualization of the main character and certain other subjects was a clear decision made by Morrison and Paquette, conscious or otherwise. It’s causing varied reactions to people who read, even in this thread, and certainly elsewhere on the net (The 4th Rail comes to mind).

Paquette's shown in the past, certainly in the Terra Obscura minis, that his style of art includes a lot of ‘cheesecake’ portrayals of female characters. The debate about the validity of this in art/comics is a sidetrack, I think. It exists, and very technically advanced and highly skilled artists enjoy working along those lines as well. In Terra Obscura, Peter Hogan and Alan Moore seemed to be well aware of this and seemed to consciously use it in their plots to arguably charming/innocuous effect.


The question here, I think, is if the overt sexualization of the main character in the Bulleteer is a useful or interesting part of a comment on a character trapped in a male conception of her identity, or if it’s just another example of insulting misogyny in a medium or genre generally notorious for it.


I’d argue that Morrison is not ignorant of Paquette’s comic-art tendencies, and is certainly trying to integrate Paquette’s style into the point he is trying to make with this particular character and story. I see nothing in this first issue that tells me the portrayal is more shallow than the others in 7S thus far, and felt the notes of personal tragedy rang true and effective, with the character’s physical presence a part of the emotional picture.

She’s drawn like a porn star, certainly, but porn stars are people, and women in porn are certainly in a situation where male-driven expectations of their bodies and identities are a day-to-day issue. I’d argue that this isn’t terribly different from what appears to be going on with Alix Harrower.

But what do you guys think? (Both those that enjoyed the issue, and those that seemed insulted by or commented on the sexual aspects of it…)
 
 
Mario
09:33 / 03.11.05
It seems to me that her portrayal in this issue (and her husband's "Dorian Gray by Proxy" fetish) is almost certainly done on purpose.

Lance's creepy line about "you never used to have those lines" shows that he's judging her solely by her appearance. He's sexualized her identity and that caused his downfall.

Alix, OTOH, focused on what she could do for others. At first, she tried to help as she did previously, but now she's expressing her Good Samaritan nature in other ways. She's found a new identity, a new destiny.
 
 
Aertho
12:02 / 03.11.05
Well, her husband did give her an STD.

Do you know what it's like telling people you're not a robot?




Run until I found something hard enough to kill me.
Maybe it was meant to save your life?
 
 
Mario
12:39 / 03.11.05
I find myself asking one question...why did Alix survive, when her husband didn't?
 
 
Aertho
12:49 / 03.11.05
Beyond irony is sex.

Bulleteer is going from Green egalitarianism to Yellow existentialism.
 
 
Aertho
13:01 / 03.11.05
why did Alix survive, when her husband didn't?

I asked myself that too. I'd guess that the universe is already a bit conscious. Alix lived because her intentios were to help, save, protect, etc. Her husband was a selfish little boy, and there's plenty of those.
 
 
COBRAnomicon!
13:02 / 03.11.05
I find myself asking one question...why did Alix survive, when her husband didn't?

I think her wedding ring kept a little sliver of skin normal, and they were able to give her a life-saving injection through it.
 
 
COBRAnomicon!
13:16 / 03.11.05
As for the cheesecake issue, I'm in more or less the same camp as that Fourth Rail review. I recognize that the wall-to-wall flesh has a direct thematic tie to the character, and appreciate that. It's way preferable to the ass-purely-for-the-sake-of-ass Vicki Vale sequence in the first All-Star Goddamned Batman. But it could've been executed a little bit better (and, admittedly, a lot of that is just a matter of personal taste; I'd probably be somewhat less irritated if Alix wasn't constantly shown with DD cups). It takes a little bit away from my enjoyment of the book, but not much. I have a lot more tolerance for good ideas poorly executed than for gratuitous crap.

Side question: is it significant that Alix's last name is "Harrower?" Given that harrowing is what the Sheeda specialize in?
 
 
X-Himy
15:04 / 03.11.05
I liked this issue for the most part. I think it was Ian Brill who brought up the Larry Young paradox. Larry Young of AiT-PlanetLar can make a commentary on the overly buxomous and ageless superheroines, all the while profiting from the same adolescent power fantasy.

I liked the STD imagery with passing on the metal skin. Particularly since his obssession, and thus the skin, derives from superhero sex sites (there is a phrase I hoped never to type). And I so want the skin to be derived from a piece of Excalibur or the Cauldron. It would make me feel tingly. I liked the line that "life isn't supposed to last forever," linking the idea of a Harrowing being a good or natural thing against the zombie youth of superheroes.

Is the flesh under her wedding ring still skin, and thus an achilles heel? Will finally throwing down the memory of her husband (throwing down the Lance/spear) leave her with the vulnerability that will ultimately prove her downfall.

I tended to like the art, except for two places. The first splash, the light made it look like her backside was still flesh. And the cemetary scene looked very rough.
 
 
Eskay Doss
15:55 / 03.11.05
It was a good enough issue, and at the risk of sounding like a perv, I quite enjoyed it.

All the cheesecake must have been fully intentional. GM touched on some sexual themes in The Whip's meta-commentary in 7S#0, and this continues that thread. Actually, it jumps right into it. The idea of Superhero porn in the DCU contributing to the creation of it's latest heroine is rather bold & brilliant, and really makes this issue stand out.

Thanks for the interesting links, Chad, especially that Ken Wilber interview. Sex as the key to getting back in touch with real values and judgements in a slippery world where anything can mean anything else can explain the sexual idealization of the superhero in a way that hasen't really been done before. There's something more to The Bulleteer's look (or Powergirl's or whoever) that is beyond cheesecake or fetish or fantasy and I think GM is exploring that.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
17:21 / 03.11.05
I liked the link-up between all those hospital wards full of people who wanted to become heroes, and what the Whip started on about in SS#0; the Whip was (arguably) successful, but a lot of people aren't.

Good thoughts about Alix Harrower knowing when it's time to cull, and Lance's predilection for adolescent super-zombie life.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
18:08 / 03.11.05
Further thoughts: the last page. "Bang." I quite liked it, especially with Alix in the mirror objectifying herself or reimagining herself in a way that annihilated everything Lance said. I thought it was the bangest bit in the comic, although I was a bit weirded out to discovered that while she wasn't wearing counterproductive high-heels, she -was- standing on her tiptoes for no apparent reason.

"There must be a reason for all this, right?" / "Even if there isn't, I know you can make one, Alix." I like the implication that she can turn things around and inject meaning into her life, that she -isn't- going to be defined by others, certainly not Lance - even if she does take what he wanted and twist it around to make it something pure.

When she rescues everyone, they're all staring at her while she covers her chest up - "I'm not a superhero." I like reference to superheroes all being naked all the time, just with something painted on over top.

Oddly reminded me of The Extremist, from the one issue I read way back.
 
 
Spaniel
22:06 / 03.11.05
Looks like Morrison doing straight forward subversive to me. Sexy woman appropriates a symbol of male potency. Chicks who *are* dicks.

Let's see where he goes with this, shall we?
 
 
Spaniel
22:14 / 03.11.05
The very idea that Morrison isn't deliberately working with pornographic imagery...

We have all seen the panel where the "super skin" is all over her face?
 
 
The Falcon
22:37 / 03.11.05
Yeah, for God's sake, he named a character Stacy Valentine in FF:1234

I liked it, second read. "At the risk of sounding a perv..." - dude, you read superhero comics. That is super-pervy. [/drunk post]
 
 
matsya
03:27 / 04.11.05
I liked this issue for the most part. I think it was Ian Brill who brought up the Larry Young paradox. Larry Young of AiT-PlanetLar can make a commentary on the overly buxomous and ageless superheroines, all the while profiting from the same adolescent power fantasy.

Examples, please?
 
 
Automatic
09:05 / 04.11.05
Aside from the walking phallusgirl reading, does anyone see Alix as a personification of the Harrowing process?

Organic being replaced by inorganic, against the subject's will. Her origin is mired in negative thought, masochistic superhero porn, her husband objectifying and lying to her The Bulleteer costume even resembles a Sheeda rider.

Hence the name 'Harrower'.
 
 
Automatic
09:06 / 04.11.05
Oh yeah, incidentally, how did she lose her top when ripping open the train?
 
 
The Falcon
09:20 / 04.11.05
Fire, I'd imagine.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
10:08 / 04.11.05
I thought this issue was aces; certainly one of the better Seven Soldiers. As a self-contained origin story it was slick, pacey and efficient.

With regard to the "cheesecake" and the representation of Alix.

1. I think there's a big difference between depicting one woman character as tits-and-ass, frequently posing in her undies and losing her clothes, and all female characters thus. Maybe Paquette always draws women this way, but crucially, Seven Soldiers as a whole doesn't impose this template on all its women. Justin(e), Beula, even Zatanna resist this mould.

For one female character to have a toned body, to have relatively large boobs, to sleep in panties, to stick out her butt a lot and stand around her house like a model, is not "unrealistic". If the entire female population of the DCU was shown in this way, that would be stupid and reductive, but I think it's clear that Alix is somewhat exceptional among the Seven Soldiers narrative.

I think we're used to criticising large-breasted women in superhero comics as "stereotypical". Of course, they're no more "unrealistic" than small-busted women. In terms of comic book representations as a whole, they fit a common type and may be seen to conform to a lazy teen-boy "ideal", but in itself it's not implausible for a female character to have the body of a glamour model.

Alix's appearance strikes me as being carefully bound up with her specific character. She keeps in shape and looks after herself ("My body's fine, okay"). Her husband is narcissistic, ambitious, vain; he sees her at least partly as a trophy, and is starting to compare her unfavourably to his superheroine porn. Note that Lance also has a gym-bunny body -- when he turns to metal, he looks like the Silver Surfer. That's not "unrealistic" either... this is a fit, physically attractive couple to whom looks are clearly important (more to him than to her, perhaps).

2. Unlike the cheesecake in All-Star Batman, we're invited to examine and reflect on the representation of Alix, through the sub-plot about the online porn. The pictures of posing super-starlets don't look so much different to the pictures we just saw of Alix lounging in her knickers, examining herself in the mirror, leaning in a doorway. The story encourages a critical perspective on the art. The episode is about sex, and porn, and cultural ideals of femininity in our society and the Seven Soldiers world. As has been pointed out, it's crammed with wittily semi-disguised sexual images -- the stuff splashing her face, the big helmet. It doesn't present Alix unquestioningly as many less intelligent and imaginative superhero comics would -- as in, "here's our main character and naturally she's a fit chick, and wouldn't it be cool if she walked around in her underwear a lot". Her appearance and presentation is integral to the story's themes.
 
  

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