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Serenity: The Firefly Movie (spoilers within)

 
  

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FinderWolf
13:35 / 02.05.05
OK, so here's a thread for SERENITY. The trailer for the movie (surely one of many, since this trailer came out in late April and the movie comes out Sept. 30, 2005) is here .

as for the trailer -- it's great, but I kinda wish the trailer mentioned that the ship is called "Serenity" so people knew what the title meant. And I also noticed the trailer was very skewed towards action, ships flying fast, things blowing up...we only got a little introduction to the characters, mostly to the captain (Nathan Fillon's terrific delivery of "I aim to misbehave," plus the brilliance of the line itself, was fantastic) and then just lots of explosions and stuff.

The assassin who's after River seemed really cool, good character & good actor, seemed patterned after the bounty hunter from the "Firefly" final episode, "Objects in Space."

We got a little bit of River doing martial arts, only one kinda clicke tough-guy one-liner from Jayne, one sort-of-funny one-liner from the pilot, a few shots of Inara in the background...I just wish the trailer had emphasized the characters a little bit more. But it looks good. I'm sure the movie will be good, I'm just more concerned about how to make it seem accessible and appealing to the average moviegoer who doesn't care about Joss Whedon specifically.
 
 
Tamayyurt
02:46 / 03.05.05
There was almost no Zoe in the trailer either. It seems the movie's going to be very Mal and River centric, which I don't mind since they are the most interesting characters... but I do love the others.
 
 
invisible_al
11:00 / 03.05.05
Think the trailer was very much focused on Mal, River, The Assassin plus the ass-kicking and shooty-bang-bang stuff.
Inara, Kaylie don't get any lines at all mainly because they rarely get involved in the action stuff. I'm pretty sure everyone apart from Sherpard Book gets their due in the film (he had sheduling conflicts and isn't in it much).
 
 
some guy
02:51 / 08.05.05
I saw this in Las Vegas Thursday night (with Joss and Summer Glau in attendance). Will write up a big spoilery review tomorrow, but if you're a fan of Firefly you're really, really doing yourself a disservice if you read it. Big things happen to all of the characters - big on the same level as the climax to The Empire Strikes Back - and I recommend discovering them "live."

The film is amazing - Whedonites will bow lower than ever before, but I predict Serenity will bomb among the general audience and pull in about $60 million domestically.
 
 
gridley
23:01 / 08.05.05
The film is amazing - Whedonites will bow lower than ever before, but I predict Serenity will bomb among the general audience and pull in about $60 million domestically.

Well, in that case, we'll just have to all see it three times.
 
 
Tamayyurt
20:48 / 09.05.05
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!

Tickets for a May 26th screening IN MIAMI went on sale a little while ago and they're already sold out! I'm going to go cry now.
 
 
sleazenation
21:53 / 09.05.05
It'll prolly go straight to video (ok striaght to DVD) in the UK...
 
 
doglikesparky
05:36 / 10.05.05
I sincerely hope you're wrong about that. I really want to see this on the big screen.
 
 
Spaniel
06:20 / 10.05.05
Thanks for the injection of misery, Sleaze.

Impulsive, have you thought of checking Ebay? It's possible that some tickets have been sold to money-hungry prats rather than fans.
 
 
Tamayyurt
12:01 / 10.05.05
I just checked ebay and they only have one ticket for a Sacramento screening and it's $85.00! I'll keep checking though.
 
 
FinderWolf
20:33 / 10.05.05
I am SOOOO tempted to read LLB's review but after what LLB said, I really want to restrain myself.
 
 
Spaniel
06:12 / 11.05.05
I'm not reading it. Some things you shouldn't spoil.
 
 
sleazenation
09:19 / 11.05.05
HAving read LLBIMG's thread I can say it contains, as the title indicates, major spoilers and anyone who cares about such things should steer well clear...
 
 
Not in the Face
09:19 / 11.05.05
It'll prolly go straight to video (ok striaght to DVD) in the UK...

Not according to the Film Distributors Association although we have to wait until the unfeasibly distant date of 7th of October.
 
 
Spaniel
11:28 / 11.05.05
Whata fantastic website. I can't believe I haven't heard of it before now.

I am teh dick.
 
 
lekvar
18:08 / 11.05.05
I'm downloading the TV series now. I watched the trailer without having seen any episodes and my reaction was, "ehhh." The trailer doesn't really give anything for the non-obsessed-fan to sink their teeth into - I think they've (the marketers) made the mistake of catering the promo material to people who are already familiar, preaching to the choir, so to speak. But since the fan base is so vocal in its support, I'm going to be doing my research before jumping to any conclusions.

I want to like this, since I'm such a sci-fi fanboy, but I sincerely hope, for the sake of ongoing success, that this story can stand on its own merit.
 
 
Triplets
20:22 / 11.05.05
Lek, i'm in the same way except I won't be going to see it. I can the majority of non-Fireflyboys howling a collective (WHAT THE FUCK?) seconds before it drops to direct to video status.
 
 
Spaniel
20:57 / 11.05.05
I honestly can't understand how anyone wouldn't want to give a Joss Whedon project a go. He brings so much love to his projects and he's sooo not Mr Dry Sci-Fi.
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
21:43 / 11.05.05
Because he's a TV writer/director with very few cinema credits to his name, all poorly-rated?

Whedon isn't infallible. On TV, he's great, but then TV is an easier medium to be great in. We'll see about Serenity - I want it to be great, but... well, his track record on the big screen isn't good.
 
 
Tamayyurt
02:23 / 12.05.05
I agree. I was a bit worried (mainly because of Whedon’s film credits) but all the reviews have been really positive so far and the film isn't even finished. I'm sure it's still improving here and there. Also the show was great, we know the actors work well together and the characters are endearing, so I’m more hopeful about this film than I am about Revenge of the Sith, which is also getting positive reviews.
 
 
Spaniel
06:02 / 12.05.05
Well, perhaps I was being a little disingenuous in my last post. I was trying to encourage people to give Serenity a go.
 
 
FinderWolf
12:52 / 12.05.05
4 out of 5 dentists say that Firefly appeals to people who couldn't care less about Buffy and Angel.

Seriously, I would advise anyone to give it a go. I have several friends who think Buffy and Angel are pretty cheesy but love Firefly. It has a different feel to it than Whedon's other work. Check out the DVD of the TV series and watch the pilot (2 hour pilot). If you're not interested after that, then you've given it your fair shot.
 
 
Tamayyurt
04:01 / 27.05.05
I just saw this! I went to the sold out screening here in Miami and someone in line had an extra ticket! I’m not going to spoil anything, but I will say it was really fucking good. If it were any other movie it’d be great, but it’s Firefly: The Movie and I was expecting a little more. Don’t get me wrong, this is the best movie I’ve seen this year. It did the job and it did it well. I laughed, cheered, got angry, and picked my jaw up from the theater floor. But it lacked something…

The first ten minutes or so were completely off. Everyone mentioned this afterward. Fifteen minutes in it got better but the offness was still there. Then it smoothed out quite nicely, but it still lacked something… It needed its western music to tie the guns and lingo together, at least a few well placed twangs or fiddles would’ve been appreciated. Also, I read this in a review and didn’t know what they were talking about until I saw it. There’s a distance between these characters that wasn’t there on the show. You know what I’m talking about, Mal casually hugging Kaylee or Wash smacking Zoe on the ass. There’s none of that, it’s like these people are just really good acquaintances. I loved the movie, but I really missed those things.
 
 
Tamayyurt
17:45 / 27.05.05
I was talking to my cousin last night about which one would he rank higher, Sith or Serenity and he said he was bias in favor of Serenity and I had to agree. I said Serenity is everything I love about Star Wars compressed into one film. What do I love about Star Wars? Well, Han Solo, the Millennium Falcon, the whole Rebellion aspect of the Original Trilogy, a rag tag bunch against the entire universe, wise Yoda as opposed to the Action Hero Yoda. I’m not going to say Serenity is better that Star Wars cause it owes a lot to it, but it weeds out the bullshit and delivers a more concentrated product. If Star Wars is Coke, then Serenity is Crack. Mal is the ultimate Han Solo (with a bit of Indiana Jones’ sense of humor thrown in), Jayne is the best of Chewbacca and Lando (big, loud, and back stabbing) rolled into one, River is so a Jedi Knight, and Book has a bit more than a little Yoda in him. So is Serenity better than Stars Wars? Hell, it is Star Wars…cooked on a rusty spoon and ready to fuck us up.

Can't stop the signal, bitches!
 
 
FinderWolf
16:57 / 17.06.05
Two interesting tidbits:

1. Firefly the TV series has been picked up by the Sci-Fi Channel, and they will air every ep., even the 3 that were never aired (but are on the DVD collection).

2. The entire cast of Firefly was listed (though separately) on Entertainment Weekly's list of 122 actors to watch this week. Cool.
 
 
Tamayyurt
17:43 / 17.06.05
Here's the cast on EW.com
 
 
FinderWolf
18:21 / 17.06.05
best quote from Joss on the cast, about the doctor:

>> ''A quiet guy whose nonverbal [communications] say, 'What am I doing with these idiots?'
 
 
FinderWolf
13:13 / 19.07.05
I know this is long, but it's so worth it:

Serenity panel from comicon, courtesy of comic book resources:

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CBR News coverage of
Comic-Con International in San Diego 2005,



CCI, DAY 3 - SERENITY PANEL
by Hannibal Tabu, Staff Writer
Posted: July 19, 2005

The applause was thunderous when fan favorite Joss Whedon took the stage, then introducing the vocal and vicarious cast with a series of questions. "Who's my favorite? Mmm, Morena Baccarin! (walks out to applause) Who do I want to punish? Sean Maher! (walks out to applause) Who am I scared of? Ron Glass ..." and so on, as Nathan Fillion, Summer Glau, Gina Torres and Adam Baldwin (wielding an action figure of himself) were introduced. The panel began before the cast started wheedling Whedon about maybe forgetting somebody. "Oh ... who's probably going to kick my *** in a few minutes? Jewel Staite!" The actress stomped out, frowning, as Whedon crossed the stage to bow prostrate before her. She stared angrily for a moment, as the crowd hooted with laughter, and after a moment she came over to hug the still-prostrate director. She walked to her seat and he returned, on his knees, to the podium. Alan Tudyk had a prior commitment and could not attend.

Leaping into the Q&A, Whedon was asked how many special effects were in the film. "Twelve," he replied. "Sixteen? No, we had to cut it to twelve."

"You said we couldn't get paid more because there were only eight," Torres interrupted.

"That's before I replaced you with a CGI beagle," Whedon answered calmly.

The same fan had allegedly stood behind Whedon at a bookstore the night before, waiting for the midnight release of the latest "Harry Potter" novel, so she asked which character was his favorite. "Hermione!" Whedon replied with a kind of "duh" tone.

Whedon answered the next question about the differences in the work based on medium by saying that the film offered a more "epic scale to do lots we couldn't do on the TV show. There were many character threads that I wanted to pursue, that now I can't. Yet. If we're all very good, and they let us do another one, I'll do that. I took the overarching idea I had, that was going to be the first two years of the series, and made that the plot for the movie."

Whedon and the cast then talked about how they handled the transition from small to big screen. "Nervous breakdown?" Whedon asked. "We handled it better than you," Baccarin quipped, which amused both the cast and the crowd.

"The biggest benefit we had was all the time we had for preparation," Baldwin said. "It was all one big long episode, and we all got to fall in love again."

Shifting the mood, Torres said, "The catering was better ... and I'm taller. You know, on the big screen." The joke fell dead, which made for even bigger laughs, as she looked away nervously.

"The difference for me," Fillion said, "coming from a TV background, you're always saying 'are we taping?' You can't say that to Joss. He keeps saying, 'It's a motion picture film. It's a movie!" Smugly, Fillion concluded, "There's the difference."

Another fan asked how they all liked the movie, and slowly Fillion stood up, clapping stridently. "That was the slow building clap, people," he admonished. "Let's try it again." Again he did the same, with the audience following suit, and Fillion said, "that's better."

"Very Eighties," Whedon offered.

"Seriously ... for those of you who haven't seen the movie, I have good news," Fillion continued. "I just saved a bunch of money on car insurance!" As the crowd howled with laughter, he said, "Oh yeah, I went there."

The next question came from a Norwegian man who "represents a group of roleplayers" who base their game on Whedon's work. "We think you're the best thing since aerosol cheese," the man said, "and wonder if there's anything you can say to these people."

Whedon stroked his newly shaven chin and said, "Let me pass this off -- Sean? What would you say to our roleplaying Norwegian friends?"

Maher stared dumbly and said, "I'm just thinking about aerosol cheese ..." Nobody had anything coherent to offer, short of thanks.

The next question wondered whether or not Whedon had considered making an "untraditional" choice and casting Gina Torres as Wonder Woman. "She and Morena have to fight to the death," Whedon said thoughtfully.

"Hey, other people here have a lot to offer in that role!" Fillion protested.

"She, Morena and Adam have to fight to the death," Whedon amended.

Fillion was not satisfied. "All I have to say is this ..." he stated, before standing up and spinning around, like Lynda Carter in the classic series, and then posing daintily.

"I've really started to rethink my career choice," Whedon said grimly, to great laughter from the audience.

The next question was how did each actor think their character would die.

"My character would die in his bunk," Baldwin said firmly.

"With a smile," Torres nodded, "with all her guns on. In Jayne's bunk."

"I think Malcolm would die from some obvious disease misdiagnosed by a doctor," Fillion said.

Glau was less pessimistic. "I think she's going to outlive everybody."

"After those three die," Maher said, pointing to Fillion, Torres and Baldwin, "Simon would crash the ship and kill those three."

"Kaylee would die in Simon's arms," Staite said sweetly.

"I would die with a bang," Maccarin said.

"No, I think we'd all die in a group hug ..." Glass said. At just that moment, a loud alarm klaxon sounded for reasons that were never explained, causing the panel to jump with surprise. After settling down, Whedon said, "Today's mystery word was 'group hug!'"

Glass continued, "In my ultimate fantasy, Book is immortal and would never die."

A clip was then shown, an action packed bar scene with Summer Glau beating the hell out of a lot of large, unhappy looking men.

"I want to do a commentary with everybody," Whedon said after the footage showed. "All right, including Nathan. Get everybody together, get a few drinks in 'em, and get the real story of making this film. It's a question of getting them all in a room. And I might forget that one of them's there ..."

Staite did not look amused.

Members of the cast talked about how the show has affected their lives. "I've already had people liking me for such a long time ..." Glass said dryly.

Maher said, "I've moved like four times because I can't get out of my garage without fans in the way of my car. I'm kidding. I really don't feel that my life has changed so much, but experiences like this are so unbelievably inspiring and so rewarding, because you guys really are why the movie was made. It's extraordinary to experience the love."

Baldwin agreed and said, "It's really important to mention that the fan base has been so important to getting us back in the air. It bears repeating how important you've been, so thank you from the bottom of our hearts."

"The most significant thing for me is that I don't have to pay late fees at Blockbuster anymore, so thank you for that," Torres said.

"People say they like my work, I'm like 'thanks,'" Fillion said, "people say they like 'Firefly,' they're my best friend. I was passionate about my work. Not any more. We all had close ties, back then. Not anymore. We had ties that could not be broken, except by the passing of time. Like a rock. A broken time rock." Turning to the panel, he finished, "and you're very special to me, my broken time rock people."

The penultimate question was about sound in space. "In the blackness of space, there will be no sound," Whedon confirmed. "At the very edge of the blackness of space, there will be some sound. On planets, there will be lots of talking."

Finally, the panel was asked about how much of themselves are in their characters.

Glass said, "What happens here, stays here."

Baccarin said, "Inara is extremely beautiful and smart ..."

"Nothing like Morena," Staite interrupted.

"I, in my head, think I'm playng a character," Baccarin finished.

"I'm obviously nothing like Kaylee," Staite said, "I think I'm more sarcastic, I have a sicker sense of humor ..."

"No!" Glass said, faking shock.

"Ron's not sarcastic either," Staite laughed. "I can be mean sometimes."

"Jewel's very mean," Maher agreed. "We've been with this character for three years now, and the characters and actors, the lines are blurred. I sometimes forget. I always like to say I love my sister, and I ... whatever"

Glau said, "When we came back to read for the movie, I wondered if everybody would change. And it was exactly the same. Playing River, I'm surprised how natural it feels for me, except the smart part. I feel really safe and comfortable."

"I think Jayne represents a man alone who is searching for family," Baldwin said. "He puts up a tough exterior to stand strong against the world and is desperate on the inside to find some sort of connection with a family that he's lost or is far away, that mirrors my life in some ways that I try to draw upon."

"Hm," Torres wondered. "I think the great similarities between Zoe and Gina is that we're very sarcastic, and hate other people in our frame. Zoe doesn't get to express her feminine side, and Gina's a big girl. That's the biggest separation. Would we ever see Zoe in a dress?"

Whedon simply said, "Sequel."

Fillion said, "Someone actually made me a bracelet with 'WWMRD?' on it. What would Malcolm Reynolds do? I have, in my real life, taken what I call the Malcolm moment and seen when things aren't going the way I want 'em to go and I think ... [looks at fist], it's either a fight or a pass."

"I thought that it was whatever Zoe tells him to do," Torres wondered.

"Word," Fillion agreed.

Whedon closed out by saying, "When you write a character and somebody plays them for a number of years, you find the actor and the character start to mesh. Willow gots sexier, Giles got hipper, it bleeds in. You start to draw from them when you're writing the character. That happened so fast and so completely that I never think about the characters, I think about the actors and the things they're doing to play the characters. They do not exist without these people. Malcolm Reynolds walks and talks, I know him and I've met him. I was amazed by it. This is a crew, this is a family, and they will always be that way. one of the reasons that I could not let this die is not because I thought they were good to play these parts, it's because they were born to play these parts."

This led Fillion to lead a final slow clap, which ended thunderously as the panel concluded.
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Tamayyurt
13:26 / 20.07.05
The *new* trailer is out at www.cantstopthesignal.co.uk! Check it out.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
13:37 / 20.07.05
The film they are trailing appears to feature only six characters. Where are Kaylee, Companion-lady whose name I forget and Book?
 
 
Tamayyurt
13:51 / 20.07.05
Kaylee is there from the beginning... but Inara and Book get picked up as the story unfolds. (Remember in the last episode Inara was leaving the ship in a huff. Book also would sometimes leave the ship like in the episode Ariel and neither of them are rebels… they’re both legit.)
 
 
FinderWolf
15:24 / 22.07.05
from Yahoo News:

Whedon flock ready for 'Firefly' resurrection

By Anne Thompson
Fri Jul 22, 9:05 AM ET

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - Now that "Star Wars," "Star Trek" and "The Matrix" are fading into the sunset, what will take their place in the hearts of sci-fi fantasy fans?

TV auteur Joss Whedon and Universal Pictures are hoping that it's "Serenity," his movie version of 2002's aborted Fox space Western TV series "Firefly," which opens Sept. 30.

Universal launched its grass-roots awareness campaign for Whedon's directing debut in April, recruiting Whedon's loyal fans to help sell "Serenity," which features the original "Firefly" cast. The studio previewed the rough cut nationwide in markets where "Firefly" performed best, culminating last weekend with a rousing screening at the Comic-Con International confab in San Diego, where Whedon and his cast conducted a panel for fans.

Back in 2001, when Whedon sat down to write his follow-up to the two hit Fox series "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Angel," he wanted to try his hand at a space Western.

"I thought, 'Wagon Train' in space," he said on the phone from Cape Cod, where he is conceiving his upcoming "Wonder Woman" script.

He didn't know that Gene Roddenberry had set out to do the same thing back in the 1960s, when he created "Star Trek," a smart TV show that was saved by its fans.

History is repeating itself.

Starting Friday night at 7, the Sci Fi Channel is showing all 13 episodes of "Firefly" -- in the correct order.

"Fox never got the show," Whedon said. "It was a bad match." After premiering the series late after a World Series game and running 11 episodes out of order, Fox dropped it.

"I told the cast the day the show was canceled that I would not rest until I found another home," Whedon said. "I felt like I had let them down."

Not wanting to admit failure was part of it, too, Whedon admits. "I didn't want people thinking that the show didn't work. Nothing I've ever done has ever emerged so instantly. Even the pilot was the way it should be. There was never an awkward growing phase. It felt right. Every actor felt so right, they worked so well together. I couldn't bear to let the universe go, or let the actors out of my sight."

When overseas markets demanded a DVD release, Fox Home Entertainment complied. The "Firefly" DVD sold more than 200,000 copies.

Whedon felt vindicated. Having soldiered in the feature screenwriting realm on "Toy Story," "Titan A.E." and an unproduced "X-Men" script, Whedon told Universal executive Mary Parent that he wanted to make his directing debut on the movie version of "Firefly." She checked out the DVDs.

"Write it," she told him.

Renamed "Serenity," after the Firefly-class ship that scours outer space, the $40 million alien-free movie will register with "Firefly" fans without confusing people, Whedon says. And the movie retains the show's homemade feel. "It's like the ship Serenity herself," he said. "Crappy but scrappy."

"Serenity" reunites the original TV cast of nine shipmates in a dysfunctional family. That was the deal. There was never a question of upgrading the cast, though Universal did consider hiring a name villain -- and then dropped it. Added to the youthful ensemble headed by Canadian actor Nathan Fillion, who plays a jocular Kirk-like captain on the mercenary freighter, are archvillain Chiwetel Ejiofor ("Dirty Pretty Things") and David Krumholtz ("Numbers") as a hacker hermit. At Comic-Con, dancer-actress Summer Glau's martial arts scene drew thunderous applause and an Ain't It Cool News rave.

What generates this powerful response? "What captivates the fans is an entire world they can go to," Whedon said, "that feels complete, thought-out, genuine, that they can live in for a long time. From the first show, we made sure every character had their own patch of ground. Conflicts become the story. Everybody plays off everybody."

Said Anna Kaufman, arts editor of the Daily Californian in Berkeley, Calif.: "You feel for the family of nine characters and their well-being. They all have interesting dynamics, pasts and secrets. They're thrumming with life." Kaufman checks the many Web sites devoted to Whedon, "Firefly" and "Serenity" (including http://www.cantstopthesignal.com) for updates on the movie. "I'm greedy. I want more," she adds.

In October, when Universal's co-president of marketing, Eddie Egan, booked a routine rough-cut preview in L.A.'s San Fernando Valley, he was amazed by the explosive response from the research-screening recruits who were clearly rabid "Firefly" fans. He wanted to know just how they had learned about the screening.

It turned out that one fan had identified the movie and tipped off her entire "Firefly" community (known as "browncoats") with one Internet post. Some of them had driven from Arizona and Seattle, Egan says. Universal, deciding that it had something bigger than it thought, pushed the action adventure off of its spring lineup and into the fall.

The studio staged three waves of word-of-mouth sneak preview screenings (which do not advertise the name of the film) in 35 cities where "Firefly" had earned the best ratings, including Toronto and San Francisco. Each time, Whedon posted fan screenings on his blog: once, with a link to a Fandango site where they could order tickets. Each time, all the tickets were sold within five minutes. Fans return for repeat viewings, Egan says, bringing new people with them.

"As the industry struggles to redefine the paradigm of the movie business," Egan said, "and what makes people go to movies or avoid them, a piece of text on a Web page sold out theaters."

Reuters/Hollywood Reporter
 
 
FinderWolf
12:06 / 10.08.05
There's a new trailer out apparently.

Also, comics artist Lenil Francis Yu recently said in an interview that he did ship designs for the movie, as well as contributing an alternate cover to the SERENITY comics 3-issue miniseries.
 
 
invisible_al
21:42 / 19.08.05
Creepy Viral Serenity Movie. Damm it they really know how to keep me jonesing for more Firefly don't they.
 
 
diz
21:54 / 20.08.05
The spoilers I've heard for this movie fill me with dread. I wasn't especially into Buffy, I pretty much hated Angel, but I loooooove Firefly.

And I kind of want it to stay that way, so I'm thinking about not seeing the movie.
 
  

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