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Pope John Paul II is now dead.

 
  

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Mourne Kransky
15:03 / 19.04.05
Papam habemus! Smokin'! Wonder who?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
15:09 / 19.04.05
(prepares acceptance speech...)
 
 
Sekhmet
15:12 / 19.04.05
Quit ringing the bells and give us a name, already!
 
 
ibis the being
15:13 / 19.04.05
I've been watching live TV and there were those 15m or so while the smoke was pouring ambiguously out but the bells hadn't rung yet... ABC's Charlie Gibson was narrating, "Well the crowd is cheering - they seem to think that's white smoke and we have a pope."

Ah - mob frenzy as fact checking. Sweeet.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
15:16 / 19.04.05
They're certainly taking their time...
...you know, I don't think they HAVE decided. They're bluffing.
 
 
grant
15:19 / 19.04.05
The Milanese guy who's a moderate (name? Mangiatutto? Manzafreddo? summat like that) is probably not going to get it, being Italian and all. Shame. I

Not Tettamanzi... he's the Opus Dei dude. I can't think of the other fella's name.
 
 
A0S
15:22 / 19.04.05
Apparently they have chosen. Not sure who yet though.
 
 
grant
15:23 / 19.04.05
The bells are ringing and the betting has been closed.

Arinze? Arinze?
 
 
grant
15:27 / 19.04.05
The moderate Italian was Battista Re, I believe.

a handful of contenders here... the nicest seems to be Daneels of Belgium, but I doubt he's the one.
 
 
Baz Auckland
15:29 / 19.04.05
I wish they would hurry... I only have about 5 min. left on the internet here...
 
 
grant
15:31 / 19.04.05
Actually, Tettamanzi is described as "moderate" in most coverage, because of his anti-globalization stances.

The Opus Dei thing, though -- personal salvation over political action seems to be the diplomatic way to sum them up. The anti-liberation theology crowd.
 
 
ibis the being
15:33 / 19.04.05
I wish they would hurry... I only have about 5 min. left on the internet here...

Seriously - I'm glued to the TV and it's 75 and sunny outside. The worst part is I don't really care that much, but I just can't look away until THEY TELL US.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
15:38 / 19.04.05
I guess the word "moderate" has a slightly different meaning when used of cardinals.

I notice Loomis isn't posting yet. Maybe it is him, after all.
 
 
ibis the being
15:43 / 19.04.05
Well, it's the Rat.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
15:43 / 19.04.05
Fuckin Hell, the RatKing got it. Smooth operatorrrrr...
 
 
Mourne Kransky
15:45 / 19.04.05
Benedict XVI. Same old same old and by old I mean stale.
 
 
ibis the being
15:45 / 19.04.05
Incidentally, the Irish bookmakers called it right on the name (Benedict).
 
 
Mourne Kransky
15:54 / 19.04.05
he's not much of a singer
 
 
Benny the Ball
15:59 / 19.04.05
Xoc - lol.

He's Bavarian? The Illuminati! Arghh! Dan Brown better watch his back!
 
 
Mourne Kransky
16:01 / 19.04.05
The Glory of the Olives? I don't think so. More of a wrinkled prune. I think the world is safe for a bit yet.
 
 
Papess
16:03 / 19.04.05
Apparently, he was part of the Hitler Youth.
 
 
Warewullf
16:08 / 19.04.05
He was a POW, captured by the Americans.
 
 
Benny the Ball
16:08 / 19.04.05
From BBC

Personally charming, quick-witted and fluent in four languages, the Cardinal is a convincing orator. Jesuit Father Thomas Reese calls him "a delightful dialogue partner", but adds that most of the Cardinal's fellow clergy would be too worried about the prospect of excommunication to enjoy talking to him.

When Ratzinger served the Second Vatican Council for three years from 1962, he supported reform. His own background, however, perhaps sheds light on his need for a Church that stands firm against the currents of change and political shifts.

Schooled in the Nazis' power of rhetoric during his childhood in Bavaria, Ratzinger later deserted the German Army during World War II, only to be sent to a POW camp when the Allies reached his hometown.

Later, as an eminent theologian lecturing at Germany's premier faculties, he was horrified by the Marxist ideologies that punctuated campus small talk in the late 1960s.
 
 
Loomis
16:10 / 19.04.05
Adolfus I. Just what we need. Hitler Youth! That wacky holy spirit's having a laugh with the voting for this one surely?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
16:12 / 19.04.05
Dude. Head of the Inquisition.

Dude.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
16:14 / 19.04.05
Having said which...

Not all memebers of the Hitler Youth were Nazis. Not all members of the German Army were Nazis. If you're going to hold that against him, I'd suggest boycotting IKEA.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
16:16 / 19.04.05
Bit of a dud, Dude.
 
 
Baz Auckland
16:17 / 19.04.05
...and membership wasn't exactly voluntary... still, they could have picked a damn better choice...
 
 
Baz Auckland
16:19 / 19.04.05
At least it fits the prophecies of St.Malachy back on page 3! He'll be the second last by that count! Ha!
 
 
Loomis
16:23 / 19.04.05
The Inquisition (what a show)
The Inquistion (here we go)
We know you're wishin' that we'd go away.
But the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!
 
 
Bill Posters
16:27 / 19.04.05
Hmm... yeah, he supposedly joined der Hitler Yoof after it was made compulsory, more details here. So... an alleged ex-Nazi who believes "homosexuals" to have "an objective disorder" and is vehemently opposed to women priests. I wasn't expecting much, but I must say I am a little taken a back even so. But that said, I don't see that this is necessarily bad from the POV of the Catholic Church - some argue that hardline stances are more likely to attract people than liberal ones, so this may help it significantly.
 
 
Multiple Man
16:32 / 19.04.05


How anyone can not believe this guy is the Emperor is beyond me.

"You, like your father, are now MINE"
 
 
Logos
16:40 / 19.04.05
Oh, please, how bad can the guy be?

After all, during his first speech as head of the Inquisition, he announced, "Our chief weapon is surprise, and fear...our two chief weapons are surprise, fear, and an almost fanatical devotion to the pope...nobody expects...oh, heck, I'm going to go out and come back in again."
 
 
grant
17:02 / 19.04.05
Fuck damn.
 
 
Jack Denfeld
17:15 / 19.04.05
Go Palpatine, it's your birthday, go Palpatine, it's your birthday!
 
  

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