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"Countdown to Infinite Crisis" spoiler

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01:42 / 21.04.05

well, OMAC #1 is out, and I thought if any of the minis would be good, it might be this one...Rucka solo and all....but it's pretty weak. I like the idea of Batman having created the OMAC surveillance program (presumably after realizing he was fucked with by his friends in the JLA), though. But Maxwell Lord as big-time baddie just doesn't work for me. Nice seeing Sasha Bordeaux again, though. Rucka created her in his Detective Run.

Here's my Rucka-meter:

Queen & Country - terrific (still good to this day, even though his DC works seems to be really going downhill, see below...)
his Detective run years ago - really great Batman stories
his Wonder Woman - pretty good, occasionally very good
his Superman run - ehhhh, mostly mediocre with rare high moments (namely, the Mxpltylk issues)
Countdown and Omac - pretty embarrassing

ONLY NICE THINGS

07:07 / 21.04.05

Hello, everyone.

Hello, Batman.

Look, sorry to phone so late, but we've got a bit of a problem.

What's that, Batman? It's always good to hear from you. It's been an age.

Well, I had this brilliant idea to monitor and research all the superheroes, their strengths and weaknesses, secret identities - that sort of thing.

How clever.

Only it's gone a bit wrong and now the bad guy has access to it all.

How unfortunate. Batman?

Yes?

Remember the Tower of Babel fiasco? Ra's al-Ghul nicks your super-secret plans about all the other members of the Justice League and uses them against us?

Um... no?

Yes you do.

All right, but that was -

And how about JLA Year One? That bit where the Martian Manhunter assembled files on al the superheroes, and then they all got nicked? And the aliens used them against us?

Oh, come on, that was ages ago.

All we're saying is... have you considered lockin, the Batcave once in a while? You gitwizard.

12:22 / 21.04.05

Are there no superVILLIAINS anymore?

This is a serious question.

15:53 / 21.04.05

Apparently, according to solicits, yes. And they now have a union.

00:11 / 26.04.05

interview with Dan Didio at Newsarama sez:

>> Despite the name, the upcoming Infinite Crisis is not like Crisis on Infinite Earths, DiDio said.

It will not be about time-bending heroics and new universes, but about heroes.

"It’s building on the cornerstones of the DC Universe," DiDio said. "We will deal with the hard issues like what makes the man, what makes the hero. Then we will break all the characters down and rebuild them, showing what it really takes.

"I wanted to show the heroes motivations, what their true beliefs are and why they think what they do makes a difference," he continued.

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Will it just be more of fallout from IC and Countdown? awww, mannn. No big epic superhero battles to redefine the DCU? Oh well...

00:27 / 26.04.05

If this shows what makes the man in Wonder Woman, I'm sold. What, nobody else wants bondage tranny swimsuit-flag comics? They could get John Byrne back on, with Morrison, and for a twist, instead of just getting tied up, everbody in the series will be tied up and raped! While pregnant! While Batman guest stars and gets brainwashed! In a prelude to a countdown to a miniseries that will launch the oneshot that leads to a new ongoing about an revamped hero with dubious, dangerous, villain-like qualities that threaten to push him over the edge, but then... more rape! Pregnancy! Babies on spikey things making Superman the gritty urban warrior psychotic he's always been, deep down inside.
Then zombie-Beetle the Blue Specter can be shot upside the head by Keanu Constantine's holy shotgun and it'll all start over again! Yay!
I do love that the DCU is getting this silly uber-grit over the last few years, but John Constantine's got a dye-job, a lobotomy, moved to the States and quit smoking. Yeah, I know, movie has different continuity, different ballgame, but... er, there was a comic about it, too!
I give up. I'm not paying for any of this unless someone whose taste I trust recommends something heavily. There's better stuff and I'm not tethered to characters the way some people are.
And as stupid and annoying as my version above would be, I can't believe what's coming will be that much better.

07:01 / 26.04.05

With those two paragraphs Daytripper wins the Internets.

Haus of Mystery

08:18 / 26.04.05

We will deal with the hard issues like what makes the man, what makes the hero

Ladies and gentlemen, MacGyver's interest in this series has officially now left the building.

09:29 / 26.04.05

I like the idea of Villains United as the supervillain union...

'Now look! It says here quite clearly that you're only allowed to kick in the Riddler a maximum of twice a week! So I don't care what you say, you have to let him get away with the bank robbery! Otherwise we all go on strike, and you don't want that, do you? Do you? Do you want to spend all your time tying up plain old boring muggers?'

'I could still fight Captain Boomerang. He's not in your union.'

'Yeah, well, fuck him. Fucking scab.'

21:16 / 28.04.05

If this OMAC thingy is just an orbiting satellite why can't Batman tell Superman just to go knock it out of the sky-end of story. Oh I forgot it is probably armed with a Kryptonite Death Ray or something. By the way this is just pure speculation as I haven't read the Infinite Crisis or the OMAC project. Besides isn't OMAC the one man army corps?

21:21 / 28.04.05

It is. The OMAC thing was a bit daft with the seemingly stupid cameras that see anywhere stuff (that's not literal, just how they were presented).

I think Haus hit the nail on the head - Batman must be an idiot to have set this up after the JLA story where he had all the info that fell in the wrong hands.

I couldn't actually work out in this story if BB had deleted all the files, leaving a floating eye, or if something else had happened though?

I'm Rick Jones, bitch

22:34 / 28.04.05

The floating eye visual kind of shitted me up a bit. It looked well malevolent. Lots of plot holes I'm not sure Rucka can fill, but I liked the boner look on Booster Gold's face when Wonder Woman lifed him off.

14:47 / 29.04.05

Actually, that was one nice dynamic, and I thought Rucka handled it a lot less heavy handedly in this, the interplay between 'big-hitters' and the little folk. You really got a sense of wonder from Booster, even though WW was just being herself.

I'm Rick Jones, bitch

00:26 / 30.04.05

Wonder? Gibbering schoolboy wreck, more like.

06:53 / 30.04.05

He he. Here's a thing though. If you had a flight ring, wouldn't you wear it at all times, regardless of costume or not? And didn't Booster's costume get destoryed and him die, so that he had to wear a suit to stay alive? Was the ring destroyed?

Our Lady Has Left the Building

10:10 / 30.04.05

FinderWolf For Change interview with Dan Didio at Newsarama sez:
>> Despite the name, the upcoming Infinite Crisis is not like Crisis on Infinite Earths, DiDio said.

Yes, that paid attention to continuity.

22:06 / 30.04.05

I'm wondering how you can call a DC comic book "Infinite Crisis" and not have it be cosmic. Heck, sounds like Green Lantern: Rebirth or the average issue of JSA will be more cosmic than this upcoming Crisis book.

01:49 / 01.05.05

A crisis of "infinite" proportions... doesn't need to be cosmic to work out really.
Infinite being the amount they'll milk it for the next year or so. Infinite being the number of characters it will touch throughout the DCU once the gang are done.

For some reason I much prefer a personal crisis than yet another time/reality/retcon fixup story. See Marvel's House of M for that.

14:44 / 02.05.05

Yup, no reality-warpin' there.

16:37 / 02.05.05

Somebody want to field an explanation as to why having your entire reality invalidated and/or reconstructed, would not be something that'd hit you on a personal level?
"Hey, Clark, yer dad's dead! Oh, wait, now he's not, but your wife doesn't know who you are any more."
I mean, look at poor Psycho Pirate, or y'know, Supergirl. Barry Allen - does anybody even know what happened to him, or do they just vaguely remember that he sacrificed himself in some vague and inexplicable way for reasons unrecalled?
I admit the last time my reality got throroughly warped and nigh-invalidated, all cosmic redistribution and retcon streamlined, I took it kinda personal.

Which leads right back to that 'how bad is rape in the DCU' question.
Morrison put some wise words into Superman's mouth, in his JLA: Classified; killing their enemies, in a land of easy resurrection, is less than efficient or harrowing. Murder and rape become lesser things in the scale of cosmic horror possible in their universe.

18:44 / 02.05.05

Barry Allen - does anybody even know what happened to him, or do they just vaguely remember that he sacrificed himself in some vague and inexplicable way for reasons unrecalled?

Oh, everybody (within the DCU) knows about Barry. He's DC's biggest saint. They all remember the Crisis, they just remember it as the Anti-Monitor trying to destroy their (one) universe. Some people, like Barry, remained in the final timeline so they remember his noble sacrifice to help stop the A-M. Other people, like Supergirl, got killed and then retroactively erased from existence and memory.

It's the Legion of Super-Heroes I really feel sorry for...they've been through at least five alternate timelines and half the time they probably do remember, what with pocket-universe holdovers and time-manipulators and past selves popping up all over the place. The 30th century probably uses existential dread as a building material.

00:12 / 06.05.05

I admit the last time my reality got throroughly warped and nigh-invalidated, all cosmic redistribution and retcon streamlined, I took it kinda personal.

Ever see the special 1/2 edition of Astro City? Kurt Busiek tells a Crisis/Zero Hour style event from the POV of a guy who had a girlfriend before the crisis, but not after, but he can still half-remember her and it's driving him nuts. It's a great example of Busiek doing the "human side of hero stories" really well.

m.

08:47 / 06.05.05

Though OMAC was decent, if a little high on the suspension of disbelief scale.

Loved DAYS OF VENGEANCE (or whatever it is called?) and really liked VILLAINS UNITED much more than expected. On that note, I picked up the new Bird of Prey trade and was very, very impressed by Gail Simone's writing. She manages to juggle three and four plotines/characters with great aplomb. That's why I caved in and bough VU.

12:35 / 06.05.05

Funny thing is, DC Vice Pr.zs (or Prez, whatever) Paul Levitz just said in a recent comics newspaper (Comic Shop News) interview that the paperback of the first Crisis would be 'required reading' for INFINITE CRISIS...so it must be at least a little cosmic...or maybe he's just trying to sell more copies of the Crisis paperback.

14:58 / 06.05.05

I also enjoyed Day of Vengence. It was fun. Reminded me a bit of the good old days when Vertigo and DC were the same universe.

Our Lady Has Left the Building

13:45 / 07.05.05

Aaah, but which Crisis paperback? 'Crisis over Infinite Earths' or merely 'Crisis Over Multiple Earths'?

18:08 / 10.05.05

Rich Johnston spoofs Countdown to IC and announces the impending return of his rumor column:

DID THEY KILL JOE QUESADA?!!?!?

03:21 / 11.05.05

Remember the Tower of Babel fiasco? Ra's al-Ghul nicks your super-secret plans about all the other members of the Justice League and uses them against us?

in addition to the storylines mentioned, the recent War Games crossover was caused by Spoiler stealing one of Batman's contingency plans and trying to implement it on her own. it's getting a bit old.

06:11 / 11.05.05

Y'know, I'm beginning to think that if I lived in the DCU, I could get all kinds of cool shit just by sneaking into the Batcave. I'd be driving around in a Batmobile, throwing batarangs in the park for passing dogs, and getting around going upstairs by using grappling guns to zip my way up the outside of buildings. It would be so cool.

16:43 / 15.06.05

I thought OMAC #2 was decent, had a fun cliffhanger ending - it's rare that we see Bats in a romantic moment like that, and about to get his ass kicked right after having said romantic moment.

I figure eventually we'll have a thread on the actual Infinite Crisis book, but it seems a bit early for that now, so I'll comment on this here - Geoff Johns just gave an interview at Newsarama where he said that Grant Morrison is contributing some ideas to the book and to the DCU post-IC. Sounds fun. He also mentions "...another writer who’ll be doing a major book in the DCU that’ll be unreal, but no one can really talk about [it] yet.

George Perez and Jim Lee will be doing dual-covers for each issue of Infinite Crisis.

I just keep thinking if you have the word 'infinite' in it and it's not cosmic in scope and content, why have the word 'infinite' in there...? (DC has said it won't be about cosmic stuff)

17:28 / 15.06.05

Just like they said they weren´t killing Blue Beetle...

13:32 / 06.07.05

Turns out OMAC #3 was pretty decent, I thought...looks like we're heading toward a big confrontation with a mind-controlled (by Max Lord) Superman against Batman. Also, it's apparently some sort of tech virus that can infect ordinary citizens to become OMACs.

16:37 / 06.07.05

Holy crap! Superman and Batman are gonna fight!

17:03 / 06.07.05

But I thought that they were friends?

17:18 / 06.07.05

Clark forgot to tape the "Desperate Houswives" reruns. Bruce is PISSED.

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