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7 Soldiers: Shining Knight

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ONLY NICE THINGS

12:30 / 26.09.05

That's optimal human behavior? Trying to follow. Wouldn't an optimal human have integrated both those perspectives and acknowledge both, similar your Achilles kill Agamemnon scenario? An optimal Achilles would know that Athena is his good sense and vice versa?

Well, if optimal equates to comprehensible and sensible to thems of us who think that way, yes. Otherwise, not necessarily. It may well just be something that Morrison hasn't thought through, but Ystin and co,. are optimal humans - far superior to the standard weal of modern humanity. Ergo, if they don't have a corpus callosum/internalised consciousness, then optimal humanity does not have a corpus callosum/internalised consciousness. QED.

Also, of course, the gods do lots of things in Homer besides represent states of mind. It's a complex text, so if Achilles saw Athena and thought "Ah! That's my good sense, then," he would not be accurate and complete in his understanding - much as the mood 7 mind destroyer can be a side-effect of Ystin's travel through time, a Sheeda weapon, a hallucination, an externalised emotion...

05:35 / 27.09.05

It's interesting, Haus. At first I took your comments about this lesser-corpus-callosum-as-optimal-human-state idea as you revealing some eccentric Homeric bias in your thinking, but after a day or two of consideration I think I see some of where you're coming from, though I'm having trouble explaining it in words.

The notion that taking our mental and emotional functions more literally is 'better' begins to seem off to me, when I consider that externalizing complex emotions/states of mind & being can free up the mind to better excel in other arenas; as if the subconscious imagination becomes an external submissive to the dominant conscious being (rather than we being submissive to our subconscious, as seems normally the case), sorting out the downstairs so the upstairs can function in a heightened state.

Am I making sense? It's interesting to consider, and leads into all manner of considerations about the application of existing visualization techniques for managing your mind and memory and interactions with others, and that old Morrison idea about using multiple personalities as tools for every day life - not in representing yourself to others, but in representing your world and your mind to your self.

Interesting.

11:13 / 06.02.06

bringing the thread back from the dead, as CBR profiles Italian artist Simone Bianchi and his future - very pretty - work on GREEN LANTERN.

curious thing, specially considering the end of 7S:SK, for those who don't know: Simone is a common Italian name for guys.

19:04 / 11.02.06

Sorry I know this is a bit late in the game but... hadn't Olwen stabbed Justin(/Justina/Sade's Justine?) with a poisoned dagger in #1 right before she and Vanguard were shat out from Castle Revolving (now THAT was a weird birth scene)? What happened to the venom? Is Justin immune?

and does anyone know any books that Morrison might have used as reference to write this one? Or that suits Justin's journey and themes etc? There's all sorts of comparative myth-stories in here that appeal a literary-geek-in-the-trainings.

Professor Silly

16:37 / 25.05.06

I will admit that I didn't like this mini-series as much as the other six when reading them last year. That said I just re-read the four issues in one sitting and LOVED IT. The whole thing made much more sense!

As for the venom-thing, my current interpretation is that the poison from the blade infected our shining knight with the Mood 7 Mind Destroyer found in issue 2. After all, nobody else can see or hear it, which implies that is is inside her head all along. This would serve to weaken our heroine's strength until the Sheeda Queen can track her down again.

I'm looking forward to re-reading all the other mini's separately now!

16:50 / 25.05.06

I've found that, in a lot of ways, the best way to read 7S is as separate, albeit connected minis. It's also quite fun to mix-n-match occasionally, or work out a chronology. In comparison, reading them in release order is rubbish - another one in the eye for the 'trade-waiters', then.

21:02 / 01.03.07

Just sitting down to reread, and I remember lots of 'the knights in the first issue are the JLA' talk, and it seemed to work for me, but now... they're more analogous to Marvel characters, yeah? Cap (and the Falcon). Iron Man with his broken heart. Blind Peredur with those supersenses to compensate: Daredevil.

If this has been noted before (I ran quickly through this thread, seeing nothing, but I wasn't entirely thorough) I apologise. Otherwise, does it hold up to anyone else? Can anyone else pin down the other knights?

Elijah, Freelance Rabbi

21:06 / 01.03.07

The Dwarf like knight who seems to be quite the fighter is a bit like Wolverine or Puck I suppose.

22:15 / 01.03.07

I figured the 'laughing knight' would be Spider-Man, but the small and giant thing makes me think of Hank Giant-Man Pym and the vespine Van Dyne. I dunno... who's a peace-loving Giant?

23:44 / 01.03.07

Hulk just wants to be left alone.

12:20 / 19.09.07

I've found these impressions from Ragnell on Justine's journey.

The blog is great, but this post is one of the best readings I've found so far on The Shining Knight (make sure you also click on her "pure hearted woman" link to another great one, about Sky-High Helligan and Alix -- curiously, she quotes some people here from the 'lith).

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