Barbelith Underground > Policy & Help > What exactly does get you banned on Barbelith?

Not relevant in this case, I believe. That was a reference to people coming back with new suits. If it has been done successfully, we don't know about it, by definition. Vladimir doesn't have a new suit. He has linked to a wishlist in the name of Vladimir J Baptiste, Jr.. There is no attempt to conceal. Therefore, your scenario does not apply.

As for due penance - well, if somebody made a racist comment in your local pub, got rude and aggressive when challenged, then wandered off for a bit before coming back in without apology or mention of the way he behaved, and how he abused and belittled other people in the bar who questioned his behaviour, expecting to be served and made much of, as if he had done nothing wrong and would be within his rights to do it again, would you go along with this? Would it seem right?

Depending on your answer to that question, you have your answer. Your answer may not be my answer. My answer is still that Vladimir apparently does not see anything wrong with making racist comments about Indians, even when a person of Indian origin is standing in front of him saying that this is offensive and upsetting to her. Without understanding that, I don't see how we can have any faith that he is not going to make further hateful statements, with no understanding that he is causing offence and no toolkit for dealing with the idea that he is. With the utmost respect, as white men we are not in great danger of feeling bad about that. The best Vladimir can manage is "humourless". However, to quote Persephone from elsewhere, with reference to the use of racist language applicable to herself and the then Bengali in Platforms, and how her reaction to it differed from my reaction to it:

It's telling to me that the verb you use is "recoil," but bengali and I say "stab."

So, no. To talk about "penance" is to make this about Vladimir, or about Undulating Spine or Sensitive Nobwit or Shadowsax or whoever. It is not about them. It's about the people who have to wonder if they are going to be feeling that stabbing sensation if they choose to continue to read a board wich gives house room to those who continue to treat all attempts to get them to behave better as invalid inputs.

Right now, on Barbelith, gay people and Jewish people get some protection extended to them to protect them from that stabbing sensation. Whether we want to broaden that umbrella is one of the questions key to this thread.