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Is Bush going to Win?

 
  

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subcultureofone
11:39 / 03.11.04
Alzheimer's and cocaine.

a-ha! the real reason they oppose stem cell research!

i thought maybe it was the heat, or something in the mosquito spray.
 
 
FinderWolf
12:15 / 03.11.04
It's all down to Ohio (although New Mexico & Iowa also HAVE NOT BEEN CALLED YET, each has 99% reporting and each is 50% Bush, 49% Kerry).

The #1 quote of the day is "Ohio is the new Florida".

Ohio also passed a state constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. Yuck.

from Yahoo news:

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President Bush (news - web sites) held a lead of more than 100,000 votes but that total was exceeded by the number of provisional and outstanding votes, leaving a window for Democrats to pick up enough votes to win the state, and with it probably the White House.

Election law specialists said either side could file lawsuits Wednesday to try to get the best footing for evaluating and counting provisional or absentee ballots.

"There are two questions here," said George Washington University law professor Spencer Overton. "One is how to develop uniform standards," for reviewing the ballots, and the other is to decide how generous those uniform standards should be, Overton said.

Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell said early Wednesday that the number of provisional ballots in the state could be as high as 175,000, or much lower.

Jennifer Palmieri, a spokeswoman for Kerry in Ohio, said: "We think that a good bit of those voters will be our voters."
 
 
_Boboss
12:20 / 03.11.04
'all ineed is my bruthahiiiiigh withalittlehelp frommy friends'

anyone remember that episode of the wonder years? i was thinking about it all day yesterday, hope this didn't skew the result too badly.

never mind. has to clear up his own poopoos this way at least.
 
 
Mister Six, whom all the girls
12:33 / 03.11.04
Actually Blackwell's replacement said on Democracy Now radio that Blackwell did not coordinate the voting procedure as well as it needed to be. There was a lot of communication problems between different counties, etc, which is contributing the 'new Florida' rap.

I'm posting on a mostly Republican comic message board as well and let me tell you... as much fun as a half-cooked weiner put in your ass by Dubya himself. Any ammo that I can fling at them is appreciated. So far they feel secure in their party's victory, despite the fact that it is so close. And see, THIS is the problem. Say Kerry DOES win, he'll do so by a narrow fucking margine ans a mostly Republican Senate will not exactly be happy to see him. Plus, the narrow margin thing means the country is polarized, split almost completely down the middle on some pretty basic things.

I for one, would love a robot revolution.
 
 
Triplets
12:41 / 03.11.04
So, hang on, for eight years this guy will be running the country when half the population don't want him?

Fucking LOVE democracy.
 
 
CameronStewart
14:18 / 03.11.04
It's over. Kerry just conceded. So much for the 2 am speech by Edwards about counting every vote.

Is Bush Going To Win? He just did.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:32 / 03.11.04
from AP Press:

"Congratulations, Mr. President," Kerry said in the conversation described by sources as lasting less than five minutes. One of the sources was Republican, the other a Democrat.

The Democratic source said Bush called Kerry a worthy, tough and honorable opponent. Kerry told Bush the country was too divided, the source said, and Bush agreed. "We really have to do something about it," Kerry said according to the Democratic official.

Kerry placed his call after weighing unattractive options overnight. With Bush holding fast to a six-figure lead in make-or-break Ohio, Kerry could give up or trigger a struggle that would have stirred memories of the bitter recount in Florida that propelled Bush to the White House in 2000.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:33 / 03.11.04
I've got to believe that Kerry wouldn't concede unless the numbers were really overwhelmingly against him.
 
 
_Boboss
14:38 / 03.11.04
what if the leftover ballotts are counted up and he wins? does he still lose?
 
 
FinderWolf
14:44 / 03.11.04
And what happens to Iowa and New Mexico, neither of which has been called yet? I'm very curious about this.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:48 / 03.11.04
But... but...

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Bush led by about 136,000 votes. Card claimed that Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell had “informed us that this margin is insurmountable, even after provisional ballots are counted.”

There was no immediate comment from Blackwell, who had told reporters shortly after midnight that, with an estimated 175,000 provisional ballots having been cast — a number that also includes civilian and military ballots cast overseas — provisional ballots could not be counted before Nov. 13. Democrats feel the total is closer to 250,000 provisional ballots.

None had yet been assessed for their legitimacy. In 2000, when 100,000 provisional ballots were cast, about 90 percent were legitimate, Blackwell said. State law, meanwhile, allots 10 days for overseas ballots to trickle in.

(from NBC News)
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
16:20 / 03.11.04
they just pushed Kerry's concession speech back to 2pm today...not sure what that means...

I guess he really believes that there is no hope in Ohio's provisional ballots, etc...
 
 
TeN
18:14 / 03.11.04
"we've got em surrounded! the west and northeast, go against the center! We can do it!"

haha, that's so funny, because looking at the electoral map today in history class, i couldn't stop thinking about the red and the blue as being enemy territories (in the upcoming civil war, of course), and how easy it would be for the blue to invade the red. think about it: the red states are largely unpopulated compared to the blue, so if we put all our people on the borders, we could march through hundreds of miles unhindered. then there's the issue of having them surrounded - i mean sure, they could retreat into mexico or canada... but republicans? mexico? canada? they just don't go together. then i started thinking about the insurgents - in some cases, almost half of a blue state's residents are republican, and vice-versa. but you have to admit, that would make it awfully interesting. oh, yes, and what of DC? last night it voted 90% kerry, and yet it not only contains all of the republican controled cabinet, congress, and [recently republican controlled] senate, (and all of the founding documents... which would surely be burned if left in the hands of the republican horde) but is completely surrounded by red states. our first priority would have to be to carve a path down to DC and rescue it.

I'll stop now, but obviously you can see what the childish political discourse in an 11th grade history classroom ("John Kerry's face is so stupid!" "Oh yeah, well my mom says that Bush is a moron!") can lead a person to think about.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
15:16 / 04.11.04
Yeah, but don't forget your supply lines. Classic error - leads to overextension.
 
 
diz
15:21 / 04.11.04
yes, and don't forget that a bigger portion of the active-duty military folks come from Red America than from Blue America. while we sip our cappucinos and listen to the Grey Album, they're out there shooting things.
 
  

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