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Superman Returns - pre-release discussion

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20:14 / 02.05.06

The official full length trailer is up and... it's a bit boring. It just doesn't have the gravitas of the teaser, and I'm not really sure that we needed a cute kid with floppy hair.

20:32 / 02.05.06

I thought it looked fantastic. I'm eagerly anticipating this, now.

Couldn't give a crap about X3.

22:38 / 02.05.06

Spacey looks good, Routh sounds the part, couldn't really get a feel for much of it as it was all pretty jumbled together, which works better than the x-3 spoil it all trailer.

Yotsuba & Benjamin!

01:34 / 03.05.06

That was fucking ILL. Loved the shit out of it. I was really hoping that Singer was just at the mercy of the fundamental asinineness of an X-Men movie and could, when faced with proper material, make a kick ass film. Chief Of Staff from Dave as Perry White? Oh, now it's on.

And, shit, Spacey actually looked like he was rocking it. Totally sold, right from the Quitely hovering in front of the Daily Planet globe.

Spyder Todd 2008

14:06 / 03.05.06

Spacey looks amazing. The Clark Kent stuff is spot on. My only real issue is that I want more of Luthor and Clark then Superman. Or something. I don't know (tired and not expressing self clearly). Maybe what I really want is just a Lex Luthor movie? Hmmm... that would be goodness.

But I really want the movie to open with the exact same scene as the trailer did. Those first few seconds in the Fortress, then Luthor saying "Tell me everything." As soon as he said that I was all "Oh man, it is on!"

14:39 / 03.05.06

The trailer's not the best, I don't think. The music is out of place to the action in certain places, the rhythm is a bit fucked, it looks like they tried to cover all possible bases in the shortest amount of time...

but

The film itself looks absolutely brilliant. Love the look, love Spacey, love the modern day rendition of proper superman superheroics, and the John Williams'll hook you no matter how clumisly it's used.

17:41 / 03.05.06

This looks great. I'm more excited about this now than I am X3.

A

02:53 / 04.05.06

Hmmm. I'm not sure. While the movie looks beautifully shot and cast (Spacey seems to be just the right blend of the comic-book Luthor and the Gene Hackman Luthor), that trailer is all over the place- it seems to change film genres every five seconds or so. It's mystery. It's action. It's romance. It's drama. It's action again. It's an episode of Full House.

The plot, from what I can gather seems to be- Luthor knows Superman's secrets and Superman is back from somewhere and Lois has a kid now but she still loves him probably and now she's trapped on a boat with her kid and Luthor is going to blow something up and kill everyone and here's an aeroplane in trouble. Or something.

Then again, X-Men 2 had practically no narrative structure whatsoever, and it was still pretty cool.

12:51 / 04.05.06

anyone know of a WMV or Real version of this trailer?

but there was a great article years ago about trailer editors that I can't find right now,.

usually studio movies execs will try to cover all the potential target audiences' age/gender quadrants when selling a big flick: young guys, young girls, older guys, older girls. [starting from that old idea that movies are a social experience sprung from dating]

so, in larger releases you'll likely see in a single movie trailer: action, romance, suspense/conflict, redemption...

13:51 / 04.05.06

WMV version availiable here .

13:52 / 04.05.06

WMV version availiable here .

14:26 / 04.05.06

ok, so I finally checked out the new Supes trailer...looks pretty good. I agree about the blatant 'trying to cover all genres' approach making it seem a bit weird.

I thought Spacey seems a bit silly at times (his delivery of 'Billions!" correcting Lois' "millions of people will die" and the "let me hear you say it, just once" were kind of cheesy, but maybe they're better in the scenes than out of context) -- and I say this as someone who loves Spacey and expects him to be a great Luthor. As funny as Hackman was in Supes I & II, he wasn't Jim Carrey doing stand-up, and I saw a bit of that in 'let me hear you say it.'

Everything looked pretty cool; loved the action shots of Supes and I like Langella as Perry White. It did bug me that we didn't see any shots of Routh actually talking beyond "You wanted to see me, chief?" The one other line of Supes dialogue we got was a v/o as we looked at a scene where he's not speaking. I expect Routh to be really good, I just think "Hmmm, why are we not seeing our lead actually speak more than one line onscreen in the trailer?"

01:36 / 05.05.06

Well fuck. If that's how it's gonna be....

The following review of Supes Returns is riddled with disappointing and disheartening SPOILERS. And given the pictures and trailers that have been offered up thus far, I've no doubt this review is spot-on.

"Can't say when. Can't say where. Can't say how it was presented. But I've seen Superman Returns. And I'm sorry to report that it's an unmitigated creative disaster."

Y'know, when they trumpeted the fact this thing was going to be done as an extension of the Reeves films and not its own new entity, I had a feeling it would fall face-first into a stack of horse manure. But I thought, nah surely to hell Singer knows what he's doing. I mean, he improved the X-Men with tightened narrative and a modicum of style. Why wouldn't the same rule apply to this film?

What a shame.

02:09 / 05.05.06

"Hmmm. I'm not sure. While the movie looks beautifully shot and cast (Spacey seems to be just the right blend of the comic-book Luthor and the Gene Hackman Luthor), that trailer is all over the place- it seems to change film genres every five seconds or so. It's mystery. It's action. It's romance. It's drama. It's action again. It's an episode of Full House."

Not to take things too off topic, but --- isn't that what a good movie is supposed to do? Most classic films have several elements of different genre in one film. Sorry just had to say...

A

02:58 / 05.05.06

"Not to take things too off topic, but --- isn't that what a good movie is supposed to do? Most classic films have several elements of different genre in one film. Sorry just had to say..."

Perhaps, but I was referring to the annoying way the TRAILER completely changes its overall tone, seemingly at random, every few moments. As though it's presenting Superman Returns as a sappy romantic comedy one moment, and then presenting it as an action blockbuster the next, and then something else entirely different with the next scene. It was all just very haphazard, and, I think, leaves one with very little idea of what the movie might actuall be like.

Spyder Todd 2008

15:18 / 05.05.06

I really hope that review is bullshit, because otherwise it's the most depressing thing I've seen all morning.

16:47 / 05.05.06

Yeah, I looked at the paragraph above and didn't want to even look at the review itself. Just too negative...I want this movie to be good and unless there are many negative reviews the week or two before the movie actually comes out, I'm keeping my expectations positive for this.

16:58 / 05.05.06

>>>I really hope that review is bullshit<<<

According to AICN, it is.

17:41 / 05.05.06

ah, I was just about to post that article a second ago, literally! Glad Cameron got it up there. And doubly glad the super-negative review seems to be nonsense.

18:21 / 05.05.06

There's nothing in that AICN page that refutes or debunks what was in that UGO review. If anything, it corroborates a lot of it (I was already apprehensive when I saw Luthor and crew standing around toy trains. To what end does a model train set serve the plot?).

SPOILERS. WATCH YOUR STEP.

The new krypton plot and luthor's attempt to make his new continent the only place to live? The new kooky female assistant to luthor having a change of heart (jesus haven't we seen this schtick used before)? Super son? jor-el giving his son his powers back?

SPOILERS END

If any of the commonalities of those two reviews are true, it doesn't look good. It looks hokey.

That's my gut feeling. Your mileage may vary.

18:26 / 05.05.06

WRROONNGGG!!

Spacey looks well good. Lois and sprog alone with the world's most flamboyant scaryman.

18:33 / 05.05.06

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19:32 / 05.05.06

his face looks like the Scream mask there.

I don't mind the plot elements referred to above - Singer has talked about Luthor's obsession with crazy real estate schemes in the first Donner film and Singer wants to play off that. The only aspect that seems a bit contrived is the Posey moll character having a change of heart (again)....but I could let that go since remember, many kids today haven't seen the original Supes film, so maybe a new generation will experience the Valerie Perrine plot for the first time (at least for the first time in a Supes film).

Spyder Todd 2008

20:40 / 05.05.06

The thing that I'm paranoid about, having read both those reviews?

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...wigs?
Damn it! I hated that so goddamn much in the first movie!

16:55 / 16.05.06

I love seeing billboards for this. I notice that from a distance, the new S shield logo kind of looks like Morrison's 1,000,000 Superman logo, compressed into two yellow circles (the SR logo only looks that way from a distance but it's kind of a cool effect). Apparently the first TV spot is out also, so I hear...?

16:47 / 17.05.06

>> Superhero Hype claims that you'll see a new Superman Returns trailer attached to prints of "X-Men 3: The Last Stand" on May 28th.

16:56 / 17.05.06

17:19 / 17.05.06

those were nicer colors for the uniform, IMHO.

Looks nice. Looks like a cosmic titan, a super-man. Reminds me of Zatanna and Zor walking around the galaxy. Looks, rightly so, Big.

02:40 / 18.05.06

Lovely poster.

Would adore a pic of Routh sitting in the clouds, all super-bliss, mirroring All-Star Superman's first cover.

16:27 / 18.05.06

I love the poster and expect to love the film...my only critique of the poster is that his low-riding Speedo briefs make him look a bit skinny, also given the camera angle of the poster.

15:37 / 20.05.06

The TV spots are all basically rehashes of the other trailers.

In weirdo comic fan news, I noticed some really nice Superman Returns promo art by an artist who I would swear is sometime-comics artist John Van Fleet on Life (TM) cereal boxes this month. (Second guess is Tommy Lee Edwards but I feel pretty certain it's Fleet, and Tommy Lee is exclusive with Marvel anyway so I doubt he'd be doing DC/WB promo art) You know you're a huge comic fan when you spot the artists behind promo art on cereal boxes and stuff like that.

19:30 / 20.05.06

yeah, looks a lot like Edward's.

I love the poster, just builds more into the Jesus-theme.

04:23 / 06.06.06

From Lying in the Gutters this week, Rich Johnston reports:

>> Bryan Singer is still editing "Superman Returns." Currently at three hours, he's been ordered to bring it down to under two-and-a-half.

>> Care to preorder your extended DVD now?

01:32 / 12.06.06

This is coming in just a few weeks!!! Joy!!

16:56 / 13.06.06

from Wizard's site:

>> RHINO RECORDS RELEASES 'SOUND OF SUPERMAN'
Album rocks 14 tracks dedicated to Man of Steel.
By Robert Taylor

Posted June 13, 2006 11:45 AM

You don't need to be a Superman to hear the latest new sound coming from Rhino Records.

Fourteen new bands have gotten together with Rhino to help celebrate the June 28 release of the film "Superman Returns" with the new CD release "Sound of Superman."

The CD, hitting stores June 13, features a mixture of new songs and covers, along with brief liner notes from "Superman Returns" director Bryan Singer. Among the bands contributing to the 14 tracks are Jack's Mannequin, American Hi-Fi and The Academy Is.

The covers include "Waitin' For A Superman," by Nightmare of You; "Brainiac's Daughter," by Royal; "I Am Superman" by The Academy Is; and "(Wish I Could Fly Like) Superman," by The Sun.

New music includes "The Rescue," by American Hi-Fi; "You're Never Gone," by Sara Routh, the older sister of Superman actor Brandon Routh; "Saved," by The Spill Canvas; and "Meet Me At My Window," by Jack's Mannequin.

The music's release should tide Superman fans over until the release of John Ottman's "Superman Returns: Music From The Motion Picture," which will be released June 27.

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