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No Bush in 2004

 
  

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FinderWolf
15:20 / 24.06.04
Well, given that anarchy or a complete revision of the US Government isn't very likely, we can aim for having a President who's better than the one who's driving us to ruination now
 
 
FinderWolf
15:32 / 24.06.04
Chad, sounds like a recipe for success! Let us know how it goes. I think someone here can help with server space, probably... as far as how many nations we're enemies with, I don't know -- maybe put a form of the sign of Islam in there somewhere, since that seems to be our main problem at the moment -- something about the US learning to live in peace with Muslim nations and Islam?
 
 
Aertho
17:46 / 24.06.04
Okay, version 1 is completed as a pdf. I'd like to submit it for review on this board, but I need a friend with the ability to do so.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:07 / 24.06.04
Cool, Chad. Anyone got hosting space? Isn't there a site that 'Lithers often use for such things?
 
 
Tamayyurt
15:22 / 26.06.04
I do. Send me the sigil, Chad.
 
 
Aertho
15:35 / 26.06.04
Wait til Monday

I've been working on it in the office and I don't have access just yet. Email me at chesed1216@aol.com, and I can get reply to you.
 
 
Tamayyurt
21:45 / 28.06.04
Testing the pic.

 
 
Tamayyurt
21:47 / 28.06.04
Nope, the file is too big can you send it to me a bit smaller my site can't take it.
 
 
Aertho
00:55 / 29.06.04
shite... til tomorrow then
 
 
Tamayyurt
20:39 / 29.06.04
The sigil is up, people... (that's it above.)
 
 
Aertho
20:59 / 29.06.04
I suppose I should explain a little.

The overall motif is taken directly from the Presidential Seal, with the eagle and everything. In one hand, the eagle carries olive branch for peace, and in the other it's got arrows for war.

I made olive branches in both claws to double the peace effort and eliminate the notion of continued "war". The polygon shape in the middle is the HEINZ ketchup label, and the word POTUS is simply P-resident O-f T-he U-nited S-tates. Then I put a cross underneath the ketchup label to exemplify the balanced mind, with a Muslim Crecent at the Yesod position of the Cross(Svadisthana Chakra), and a six-pointed star at the Tiferet position (Anahata Chakra). At each arm, I put a "mystic animal" of the liberal Democratic donkey and the Bull Market for added good stuff for the economy.

Stars are fun.

Hope everybody likes it.
 
 
Skeleton Camera
22:04 / 29.06.04
I am VERY impressed. That's a wonderfully complex sigil, and POTUS is already a magical formula in my head. Firing off, this Friday night! Howl at the moon kids!!!
 
 
Tamayyurt
02:31 / 30.06.04
Yeah, I'm very impressed by the sigil and the amount of thought put into it.

One question, though, why the HEINZ ketchup label?
 
 
Aertho
12:37 / 30.06.04
John Kerry's wife is the heir to the HEINZ fortune. She's still got that name in a hyphenated Heinz-Kerry assembly. So that's where their money comes from.

Seeing as how campaigns use up a lot of money, we should concentrate on the food(Kerry) vs oil(Bush) war as well. So our standard becomes the HEINZ polygon.
 
 
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14:39 / 30.06.04
I was thinking it might be helpful to find some way to keep the Bushites from cheating again this election, and my imagination gravitates toward a working calling on the influences of Odin (sacred kingship), Tyr (justice), and Frigga/Freya (balance/peace and I'll probably talk to her about the whole same-sex marriage issue). Ecstatic shamanism seems to be the way to go about it for me; the shaman's role as protector of the tribe from worldly and otherworldly threats seems particularly appropriate. Anyone have any input?

Great work on the POTUS sigil, by the way. I'll lend my gnosis there as well.
 
 
gale
16:10 / 30.06.04
Chad, the sigil is beautiful.

I will work with it at every full moon until October 27. Thanks!
 
 
Aertho
16:21 / 30.06.04
Thanks everybody! You know, if ya'll are just "save as"-ing the jpeg, maybe it would serve those interested better if I emailed a pdf document or built a desktop wallpaper at 800 X 600 or something. Cuz that graphic small, and it WAS just for review and critique.

BTW, I had fun making it, and if anybody has sigil requests, I'd be more than willing to make some others. I tend to design kind of Dineyesque, and that's hella-ppropriate for culture nowadays.
 
 
FinderWolf
16:38 / 30.06.04
Beautiful sigil, Chesed, and I was even more impressed to hear all the thought that went into the design. I figured out most of it before I saw your explanation -- but the Heinz ketchup bottle thingie I didn't catch, and that's a brilliant idea!
 
 
FinderWolf
17:33 / 01.07.04
Bump for our political future!! We got the sigil, now put it up, wank it up, whatever ya want to do
 
 
Tamayyurt
18:02 / 01.07.04
I'm actually waiting for Sunday. I think July 4th would be better. I know some of you are gonna charge it on Sat. (full moon) so it's going to be a very magickal weekend for politics.
 
 
Skeleton Camera
12:26 / 03.07.04
I charged it last night. The ritual had to be smaller-scale than I had hoped for, but it was apretty-pretty good nonetheless. I'm going to bury the sigil today, so it will 'grow'.
 
 
Tamayyurt
13:13 / 03.07.04
I think I'm going to tie mine up to a firework and "launch".
 
 
Tamayyurt
14:43 / 04.07.04
Today's the day!
 
 
FinderWolf
19:02 / 05.07.04
Done.
 
 
FinderWolf
20:09 / 06.07.04
Anyone else work with Chesed's cool anti-Bush sigil this weekend?
 
 
Tamayyurt
00:48 / 07.07.04
I did, obviously, but it's no biggie cause we have until Nov. to work with this sigil.
 
 
Magister Lewdi
16:24 / 08.07.04
I don't mean to "diss" the noble ones among the Democrats, nor among the Republicans. But...

Beware the "rachet" (aka "rat-sh*t") effect used by the Elite Class, through the "hit-em-wit-a-Left / sock-em-wit-a-Right" current political dichotomy.

Remember how many patriots, libertarians, and old-style conservatives were so worried that Comrad Clinton would establish Marital Law and do so many other terrible things?

Remember how they wished for "anyone but Clinton?"

Remember how the Elite Class (Iron Heel or what have you) spent a number of years building up what turned out to be judas-goat "conservative" organizations, radio talk show hosts, and web sites" to take in an fool all the newly-aroused "baby conservatives" riled up by the Clintons?

Remember the huge anti-Clinton uproar around 1994, and how
"Dole/Gink-Grinch" spun it into their "Contract-on-America" and so many people bought that?

Remember how Clinton was feeling so down-and-out and "irrelevant" and then.... OOPS! All of a sudden some naughty fellow blew up the OKC Federal Building with a big old truck bomb that didn't even leave a crater underneath the truck but punched a dad-burn big hole smack throught the steel frame of the building? And remember how Clinton then re-created himself in a more-conservative vein and ruled like there was no-tomorrow?

Remember how Hillary and Bill promoted what they called Health "Care" and how its chief feature consisted "tagging" their fellow Americans with a fancy-dan plastic ID Card?

Remember how Billy Boy promised "Benefits that can never be taken away?" Woooah! Slow down there! Billy Boy is a lawyer. Surely he understands the difference between a benefit (which may be taken away at any time, for any reason) and a Right (which should not be taken away, albeit they often are taken away, infringed, abriged, or just not mentioned).

Remember how people long ago thought the term "shall not be infringed" sounded cool and helpful.... but the dummies forgot to think to themselves, "Hmmmm... if this right is not being infringed, I wonder what rights ARE being infringed?"

All those who are interested in this thread ought to look at the past, and do a Google or Yahoo search of

1.) Wat Tyler's Rebellion

2.) Shay's Rebellion

3.) Haymarket Square 'Anarchist' Bombing

4.) OKC Bombing

5.) The Battle Ship Maine

6.) Pearl Harbor (What really happened)

7.) Gulf of Tonkin

8.) 911 media event

9.) Etc.


Politicians, even the sweetest, are whores. Now there's nothing so wrong about a whore in the proper place. But it's probably unwise to long for a whore who will save your world and make everything 'better.'

The political process is a Joke, albeit a sick one.

The real law is "Congress shall make no law."

Nation States are not Nations.

Enough said?
 
 
FinderWolf
18:01 / 08.07.04
Like I said, that's all well and good and there are many valid points there, but this is a thread for magickal workings to get Bush out. And Kerry is the only alternative. I'd rather have Kerry than anarchy. I'd rather try to get Bush out through magickal workings than say "aww, it doesn't matter, they're all crooks and assholes anyway, our system sucks and it's all ruined." That's just me.
 
 
FinderWolf
18:03 / 08.07.04
I guess I'm just saying that "our gov't sucks, all govt's such" isn't really constructive, in life nor in this particular magickal endeavor. We have the system we have, and in the short term, I want Bush out and someone better, or at least less horribly offensive, in. Maybe other threads could be devoted to magickal workings to get us an entirely new system of gov't.
 
 
Tamayyurt
18:12 / 08.07.04
Exactly, I rather work with what we've got than not work at all. I vote (and have so since I've been of age) this is the same thing (sort of). I think it's better to vote for the lesser of the two evils than say," You know what? It doesn't really matter and not vote at all."
 
 
Magister Lewdi
21:02 / 08.07.04
OOOPS! 'scuse me, there...

Mine was not a, "Government sucks; all government sucks, so don't bother voting" post. Indeed no!

Mine was a, "Gee, those conservatives sure were freeked out when their boy, W. Bush, went and did exactly what they had feared Clinton was gonna do.... I wonder what these folks will do when their boy, John Kerry gets himself elected and pulls the same kind of trick on them?"

I just wanted to point out that possibility, see. I don't really know what to tell you, though. Vote? Sure, why not; I always vote; it's a good place to pick up a few laughs, when one cracks jokes about hanging chads, etc.

Now those who are really astute might try reading their cards (or whatever), trying to figure out just what kind of trick Mr. Kerry's keepers have hired him to pull, when you fellahs elect him. Not that I'd vote for Bush.

Finally, not being draft age, I don't really give a flying, which crook you guys are willing to live with (until your body bag arrives). I will remind you though, that if you ever receive a Notice from your draft board, BY LAW you must report down there for a physical exam, so they can find out whether or not you are 'army material' or not. Hey! And that applies to all the little chickies, too, doesn't it now (or will soon)? HOWEVER.... there is no law that can force you to swear an oath of allegiance, so DON'T DO THAT AND THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO TAKE YOU. Just tell them you can't swear that oath and do they want you to LIE, or maybe they can just induct you without the oath or affirmation. Ask 'em if defending against all enemies foreign and domestic means you should shoot our officers? And if so, how high up the chain of command?

As for magickal means to deter a Bush, you might be better served by some sort of pesticide!
 
 
Unconditional Love
21:57 / 08.07.04
shaving foam perhaps or a pair of clippers.....
 
 
gale
16:38 / 09.07.04
Hi Magister L,

For someone who doesn't care who we vote for you certainly have a lot to say.

I never got the impression that the conservatives were freaked out by anything Bush/Cheney did. I however, am extremely freaked out by it, and even if Kerry has been though the "machine" (as anyone running for president has), he can't possibly be worse than Bush/Cheney and will probably be a whole lot better.

Look at the Untied (now that's an interesting typo!) States: The entire world hates us, the economy is wrecked, we are stuck in a "war" with no end in sight, and our current president gets messages from god and thinks that a good way to prevent forest fires is to cut down all the trees.

I think the sigil that Chad designed will serve as a Bush deterrent just fine, especially since the secret service would never let anyone close enough to hit the big guy with pesticide.
 
 
FinderWolf
16:47 / 09.07.04
word up, gale.
 
 
Aertho
17:37 / 09.07.04
I DON'T think Mr. L is pro-Bush. I DO think Mr. L is trying to get us to jump out of the us vs them bullshit that U.S. Political races seem to generate. Once Kerry gets in office, chances are he's gonna pull some wacky shit that will rally the american people aginst HIM as well. Clinton got a BJ, and everybody was pissed. Now that seems minor.

Yes, I made the sigil in hopes that the Dems win, but we have to stop thinking of U.S. troops as soldiers in a "war". That region is socially "sick" and tried invasive surgery to excise a malignant tumor. Now the cancer's spreading. It's not a war, but it ought to be a humanitarian effort. No arrows, douoble the olive branches...

Saudi Arabia's owning 7% of America needs to be dealt with as well.

Let's REALLY not fight kids. Someone always has to play the devil so we're tougher conversationalists.
 
  

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