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Matrix Revolutions (Spoilers)

 
  

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Phex: Dorset Doom
12:59 / 06.12.03
My point exactly Produkt. What the franchise needs now is somebody (somebody neither Andy nor Larry Wachowski) to pick up the ball and make the fourth Matrix film (Matrix Redemption or Revelations?) where the Zionists (for want of a less politically loaded word) are revealed to be nothing more than religious fundamentalists trying to force their inferior reality on five billion people. Did anyone notice grizzled commander guy abusing the Kid for being 'pod-born trash'? I'm guessing the post-Matrix 'real world' would be a theocracy run by the humans born in Zion with the rest of us relegated to slave laborers trying to clean up the planet.
A little project for fan-fiction types maybe.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
22:50 / 07.12.03
Clovis, not Charlemagne. Clovis, the first king of the Merovingian dynasty, defeated Alaric II in battle in 507AD (IIRC) and so took power over an area approximately coterminous with France (barring Burgundy). The kingdom was divided on his death into four, which were supplanted halfway through the 8th century by the Carolingians.

Lord knows why the Wachowskis called the character the Merovingian. I suspect they are more likely to be familiar with conspiracy theories and cod mysticism than European history, so "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" is probably the place to look.
 
 
PatrickMM
22:54 / 07.12.03
Excellent, Phex. And, I'd imagine the people in Zion would just spend their time insulting all the people left in The Matrix, as cowards, and lazy. Why didn't this movie get the point that it's better to live in a decent world than it is to live in this pathetically awful world, just because it's "real"? The people in Zion are the ones who really need to "free their minds."
 
 
at the scarwash
19:57 / 08.12.03
Haus, do you actually quite simply remember all of that, or do you occasionally find it necessary to check references? Either way, thanks for the clarification, for all the good it does in understanding The Matrix.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
05:48 / 09.12.03
Patrick, possibly because it's better to die free on your feet than to live on your knees as a slave, an ideal it's very easy to talk about when you're an insanely rich film producer who doesn't actually have to risk anything.
 
 
veil of ignorance
17:42 / 18.12.03
Does anyone else think that the Wachowski brothers should be paying royalties to the Philip K. Dick estate? Sure, the Matrix films borrow lots of sylistic and conceptual ideas from other sources, the Invisibles especially, but really : would there be a Matrix without Dick's Excegis? The illusory reality as a prison, our world being a different race's heaven, the gnostic messiah freeing people from the Empire that Never Ended- these aren't tried and true sci-fi staples, they are the personal cosmology of a talented writer. Mining someone else's psychosis for ideas seems sleazy to me. Sorry if this was preachy, I'm new here.
 
 
diz
18:48 / 18.12.03
these aren't tried and true sci-fi staples, they are the personal cosmology of a talented writer.

yes and no. a lot of it is general Gnosticism - i mean, PKD was hardly the first person to look at our reality as a prison of illusion.
 
 
veil of ignorance
19:15 / 18.12.03
Sorry Diz, my post was not very specific. My position is that the idea of consensus reality being both a deliberately manufactured prison as well as a afterworldly refuge for other beings, which can be escaped physically( rather than spiritually trancended) is more consistent with PKD's theory/delusion than with a conventional gnostic/Eastern view of Christian mythology.
 
 
ReformedRobotMan
22:12 / 12.12.04
After the hype has passed…



The Matrix was not written by the Wachowski brothers, the story did not come from their minds. The reason they were never present in interviews was because they could not explain what it was all about, the reason why so much did not make any sense was because they did not understand what the story was all about. Both of the Wachowski Brothers became very uneasy when explaining their influences and inspirations to their script. They called for certain writers of certain works to help them understand some of the work. They made the actors read certain books so the actors could understand some. They could not explain any to the actors themselves. However… AOL-Time Warner heads being part of the system recognised the story..The two Brothers were reduced to recluse status, with the stars of the films providing more information than the filmmakers themselves. Warner Brothers studios had the Wachowski Brothers sign a confidentiality statement for their own movies.

The Architect…The System
The Oracle… The Writer of the Book…a female who understood the system and decoded the system...
The Source… The Power of The One… the first seat…the heart…is love…to return to the heart is to return to love...is to become human again...
The Fight…between Humans and the System…the machines the technology that is becoming the prison of humanity...
The Matrix is the world you live in...
Revolution your only way out.
 
 
Spaniel
08:28 / 13.12.04
I mean this is the nicest possible way: what the fuck are you talking about?

Please to elaborate on your assertions.
 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
11:57 / 13.12.04
The movie being terribly uneven in quality, as opposed to the first, your post makes sense, RRM.

In the real world, however, your post is full of holes the size of the Netherlands - if you can't back up ALL your claims, please butt out.





Why have I a feeling that this won't end prettily?
 
 
Jack Fear
12:08 / 13.12.04
The "Machines" = The Jews. Pedophile Jews. DO YOU SEE?
 
 
Jack Fear
12:09 / 13.12.04
(Just cutting to the chase, RRM—figured you wouldn't mind)
 
 
FinderWolf
13:54 / 13.12.04
This seems like a good time for a quote from Master Shake of AQUA TEEN HUNGER FORCE:

"The Highlander movie was a documentary and the events happened in real time."
 
 
ReformedRobotMan
19:10 / 13.12.04


Ah, wonderful to see that the first reaction to the unusual is still a full frontal attack in the gardens of Barb… Does it hurt that a trilogy like the Matrix is written by a woman? Well she is also the writer of the Terminator…

The reason for posting is simply that many feel its time to spread some info due to AOL-Time-Warner controlling the media together with some others who all belong to the same system which ensures that news they do not want to reach the public does not reach the public… and for now the internet is still a free-way

Bumble Bee… now now.. don’t shoot the messenger.
Jack Fear… I enjoy remembering the good old days…


Strolling trough the pages of this thread one stumbles over minds not understanding the revolution and being disappointed about its content, just as many did not understand a damn thing about Reloaded. Why did your minds never asked itself, why there was so much that could not be explained nor understood? Why didn’t any of you wondered about the absence of the 2 Bro’s during so many interviews? Joel Silver claimed that he was appointed by the 2 Bro’s to talk for them because they do not like publicity. Not quite true, Joel "Your Soul for 30 pieces of" Silver was ordained to speak on the Brothers' behalf.

Did nobody ever wondered for one moment that it might be that they never wrote the books? Did nobody ever thought for one split second that something was weird about the Matrix trilogy? Did nobody ever wondered why the 2 Bro’s made the actors read certain books about the material? And even bring in certain writers to explain them certain things? Hello… I write a book and then I ask you to explain me my book?

There was so much mythology used in the movie, yet they never ever explained a damn thing, and lord knows how many where braking their brains and how many were discussing about it, literary man felt called to elaborate on the Matrix trilogy, especially Reloaded. They did not understand , the Bro’s did not explain, the actors could only repeat themselves concerning “Cause and Effect” Fishburne went as far as wanting to warn the people about cause and effect, suggesting, he knew what he was talking about, yet no explanation about the exact process. Reeves repeated himself concerning the German writers but could not explain what the hell he was reading, even that he understood that things can be solved by love, yet misinterpreting the love thing. It had nothing to do with the relation between neo and trinity. Both were symbols, all of the characters were symbolic. The story had nothing do with myths, yet mythology was needed in order to point into certain directions. And if one did not write the work than needless to say that one can not explain. The symbols, the numbers all have a specific meanings, the story they simply did not get. Even that I have to say, they manage to cook a nice 3 course dinner, but they lacked understanding of the ingredients. The sprinkles they added were nice, I have to admit, but they mixed up many things.

The purpose of Neo … to Reverse and Revive… then Revert the Sensorium… creating a Revolution… which causes a connection to the first seat… the Heart… which then creates automatically its originally intended frequency… is Love… thus returning to the Source… Neo represents humanity… which must shed its doctrine…he has learn to listen to his heart…the heart needs no proof…believe…
Neo… Nile Egypt Osirus …

Logos… The Word or Second Person of the Trinity and means Oracle. Trinity means Female…Male…Spirit
Logion… Saying of Christ not recorded in Gospels but preserved elsewhere by the means of Christ Conscious
Nebuchadnezzar…Tears and Groans of Judgement; or Trouble, or Sorrow of Judgement
Nebuzaradan… Prophecies of Judgement.

And it has nothing to do with the tales of the bibles.

"During an FBI investigation, key pieces of evidence were found establishing Sophia Stewart as writer/author of "Matrix". Credible witnesses employed at Warner Brothers have come forward claiming company executives and lawyers had full knowledge the work in question did not belong to the Wachowski brothers. Witnesses also stated the original work of Stewart had been seen, and constant used, during preparation of the motion picture."

Very little has been known about this case but it was finally made public, however, low under the radar, on October 17th of 2003. The reason you have not seen any of this in the media is because Warner Brothers parent company is AOL-Time Warner... this GIANT owns 95% of the media... let me give you a clue as to what they own in the media business... New York Times papers/magazines, LA Times papers/magazines, people magazine, CNN news, Extras, Celebrity Justice, Entertainment Tonight, HBO, New Line Cinema, Dreamworks, Newsweek, Village Roadshow... and so much more!... They are not going to report on themselves and have all the tools to suppress the story.

Sophia wrote the books in 1981-83-84 officially she intended to turn them into comic books, which was the reason she handed her books over to the 2 Bro’s. The story was officially called “The Third Eye” they named it the Matrix which means Mother, Womb, Nurturer. Sophia is a black woman living in the US.

The big problem for brilliant minds like Sophia in the world of movie making, is that the audience for some very narrow minded reason, simply can not imagine that a female can produce stories like the Terminator or the Matrix, and if the female is black, it becomes even more of a problem to believe. Which is strange for female minds can make huge U-turns and can be very twisted at times…Those darn pedophiles.

The Only reason why the Oracle was portrayed by a black actress was because the writer is a black woman, and the only reason why there were so many dark skinned actors in the movie, is that many of the characters in her book are darkskinned and refer to the source as well The whole story is about telling on our current system, explaining the system, and about what will happen. Do we fight the machines or do we become their prisoners?
The story explains a way out, returning to the Law of One, which is the Source. It is a story of the Oracle against the Architect and funny enough at this moment there is a actual battle going on Between the Architects of the movie and the Oracle…The Mother of the Matrix.

It beyond me that people did not make the connection when seeing this movie.
 
 
Jack Fear
19:30 / 13.12.04
Here's the story that RRM is so het up about, folks.

So, to sum up your thesis: women and black people—they have secret arcane knowledge that white folks can emulate, but never truly understand.

That would be "soul," presumably.

Wonderful minds black folk have—so... intuitive, so naturally mystical... And women—so empathic, so unbound by conventional logic...

Nope. Sorry, pal. It's the same old piss in new bottles.
 
 
Spaniel
19:42 / 13.12.04
Ah, at last we know The Truth.

Thanks, Robot.
 
 
FinderWolf
20:20 / 13.12.04
I certainly believe the script has symbolic meaning and a message that's important for our culture/society, and some arcane/occult things thrown in here and there... but I doubt it was designed a mystical hypersigil. Then again, the writers were influenced by the Invisibles --

I thought the Wachowski Bros. wrote it - who's the woman who was involved in writing it?
 
 
Triplets
22:40 / 13.12.04
ReformedRobotMan = a poor man's Jack Frost/Nova-Eon-Kalel?
 
 
MJ-12
23:58 / 13.12.04
Wait...Grant Morrison is a black woman from Utah?
 
 
Jack Fear
01:52 / 14.12.04
ReformedRobotMan = a poor man's Jack Frost/Nova-Eon-Kalel?

Dude. The old-skool, original model, come to us from outside space and time to tell us The Truth.

He is God's Special Angel, made of light. And raw foods.

You kids today, You do not know the wonders held by the Barbelith of your fathers. We had proper lunatics on the board in our day, son.
 
 
Seth
09:47 / 14.12.04
Why is anyone still interested in these films?
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
10:42 / 14.12.04
Because the Architect gives me the horn.

RRM, how do you explain the fact that the Wachowski brothers were all over the several hours long documentary The Matrix Revisited? Surely if they wanted to pretend they had written it and not some woman they would have been more public in promoting the second two films? It's not like interviewers are going to start grilling them on their Baudrillard and Derrida.

Sounds a bit muggle-tastic to me.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:32 / 14.12.04
Strolling trough the pages of this thread one stumbles over minds not understanding

You've never been more right!
 
 
Lurid Archive
12:04 / 14.12.04
Why is anyone still interested in these films?

Some of us have a heartfelt goth fetish, you know.
 
 
_Boboss
12:11 / 14.12.04
but goths, easy to giggle at and badly-dressed though they may be, are generally quite nice and gentle, and definitely don't seem to be quite as mad into gunjitsu and wire-fu as a true matrix obsessive would need to be.

could it be that you fancy -

INDUSTRIALS?

(there's a word you've not heard for a while. if in need of further info or listening-list, talk to the fireman)
 
 
Lurid Archive
12:28 / 14.12.04
In the spirit of inculsivity, I am happy to extend the welcoming arms of "goth" quite widely. As long as a person doesn't commit the sacrilege of excessive colour, of course.
 
 
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12:42 / 14.12.04
What the fuck's all this about? 'Matrix Revolutions'?

Never heard of it before.

And who the hell's this Jack Frost/Nova-Eon-Kalel????

Your all mad. I'm off to chew on some more Ibuprofen.
 
 
_Boboss
13:42 / 14.12.04
you do that fireman, they get well trippy after the first couple of packets.
 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
17:31 / 14.12.04
You kids today, You do not know the wonders held by the Barbelith of your fathers. We had proper lunatics on the board in our day, son.

And since you must know -- and you must, since it's no longer a secret as Flyboy has outed me in a rare, empassioned (or is that enraged? I can never tell the difference) post a handful of weeks ago -- I wrote RRM into existence initially, which somehow makes the astounding revelations on this page kind of my fault.

But not really.

RRM is an enfant terrible come to independent life, as far as I'm concerned, and whose viewpoints have stuck with me undeservedly (IMO).

Table cleared. I thank yew.



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And since Jack Fear has been kind enough to cut effectively to the chase may I also suggest RRM that ze should be looking into Jack Frost/Co(s)mic Fireman/Eion? Someone brave could giftwrap him and deliver him to RRM, whereby they could have a mutually beneficial & exclusive relationship, teaching Frost the staggering, eeevil ways of the world. Imagine that; he's 20 and very impressionable and they'd be a couture fit made in heaven, hell, whereever.

Sorry RRM.

You deserve ridicule.
 
 
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17:54 / 14.12.04
may I also suggest RRM that ze should be looking into Jack Frost/Co(s)mic Fireman/Eion?

Looking into me? Creepy.

Someone brave could giftwrap him and deliver him to RRM, whereby they could have a mutually beneficial & exclusive relationship, teaching Frost the staggering, eeevil ways of the world.

No thanks, I already have a few teachers and/or guides, but ta for the offer.

You deserve ridicule.

As do most of us from time to time, no big thing.
 
 
This Sunday
20:00 / 14.12.04
On Morrison being a black woman from the States -
Is this was Jimenez was on about in the annotations book? The personal fetish, working out some secret desire with Jack and Boy thing?

On the Highlander/Aquateen thing -
Y'know, when I saw it as a kid, I actually didn't realize those were supposed to be flashbacks. I just thought he was living in multiple times.

On the Matrix being derivative or outright stolen from other sources -
If it had been in the slightest it's own thing, instead of cobbled together from other (mostly - if not all - better) stuff, would it not stand to reason to expect it to, well, hold together better?

Why did wirework fights and gun ballets, Oshii, Dick, and Morrison destroy my ability to have my mind blown away by the even just the adverts for the first film, like seemingly everyone else in the world? Heck, even Mamoru, Phil, and George haven't managed it properly. My non-head-breaking is threatening to crack my skull with anticipation.
Or maybe it's the rain, that's really to blame.

Would taking 'Dark City' and 'The Man Who Fell to Earth' and smashing them together be a far superior thing to 'The Matrix' aside from fight-scenes, or would it be 'Masked and Anonymous' without ever showing the aliens, and with, y'know, masturbation and Bob Dylan.

Why does no one question the validity/realness of the fucked-up just-post-birth panic world outside of the plug-in-the-neck pod-sleep-world? They should have ripped off, say, 'Miyuki-chan in Wonderland' while they were stealing from everybody else, and had, one after the other after the other, worlds just dissolving. Or just make Nabokov's 'Ada' with guns, rubber, and Ted Logan.

Was the magic mirror better in 'The Matrix', either 'Ghost Busters', or 'Voice of a Distant Star' the best in film? Or am I missing something? 'Beauty and the Beast'?
 
 
ReformedRobotMan
20:01 / 18.12.04

Jack Fear:
“So, to sum up your thesis: women and black people—they have secret arcane knowledge that white folks can emulate, but never truly understand”

Well they have been wobbling ‘round earth for so much longer, and most of the first spiritual knowledge springs from their minds, and it having something to do with the roots thing, like the Dogon tribe or …whatever

“Wonderful minds black folk have—so... intuitive, so naturally mystical... And women—so empathic so unbound by conventional logic...”

Empathic as in expressive significance?
Unbound as in infinite, that must be the colour of her skin speaking.
Conventional as dictated by the norm?
Logic according the science of reasoning? Seeking proof at all cost? Not bending to the linear thinking of male indoctrination? Or Logic as in Greek Logike? Or as in Logos?

But of course its very normal for a writer to create characters with skin colour resembling their own.



http://www.daghettotymz.com/matrix/matrixgallery12.html somebody should have asked the brothers what the signs and numbers stood for.

Jack Fear
“You kids today, You do not know the wonders held by the Barbelith of your fathers. We had proper lunatics on the board in our day, son.”

Oh yeh… the founding fathers of Barb understood the ways of the lunies, those were them days.

“Dude. The old-skool, original model, come to us from outside space and time to tell us The Truth.”

What can I say, my ship stranded and I was forced again to walk the earth in search of minds that I could convert.

Seth
“Why is anyone still interested in these films?”

Because they are about to bite... and creep into our real world

Our Lady..
“RRM, how do you explain the fact that the Wachowski brothers were all over the several hours long documentary The Matrix Revisited?”

Diversion…and Prevention

Because after http://www.daghettotymz.com/matrix/matrixgallery3.html (Only a few documents are free for the audience to read) it was of the utmost importance, for Warner to debunk any information coming out, and the best way to do this was to come out with Matrix Revisited. At that time they still did not realise that she never gave the brothers the original, which was a huge mistake on their behalf. At that time Warner was still convinced that they had the original work see their response letter to Sophia http://www.daghettotymz.com/matrix/matrixgallery4.html

“Surely if they wanted to pretend they had written it and not some woman they would have been more public in promoting the second two films?”

No, because they had not written it, they could not explain the content of these movies. With Reloaded and the Revolution they used her writings literally. They simply could not go out in public promoting their work, for they could not explain, they would have alerted the keen listener.. and if you did not write the story, then you not explain what the plot is, nor where you got the ideas. And what motivated you. And if one then asks you questions you would be nothing less then a mumbling fool, trying to dodge the questions. And a good journalist, especially those walking around in the movie world, know all about the falsehood of that world, and they know exactly what sort of questions to ask Also because of the case being in the rooms of lawyers already, they were not allowed to go out in public promoting the work as if it was their own, they could not handle more damage, than the damage that was already done.

Neo in Greek Neos, which means new as we all know. But Neo also means… Recast, lately found or… Invented.
In the Third Eye the character Neo is officially name I-Khan. One reminder was it not so that they were thinking of will smith at first for the role? Yet they choose the actor number 33 on the list, why? Because this is the number by which the one in the book was recognised as being the one. Also one thing, and to whoever don’t come with calling me a anti-semetic, the 2 bro’s are absolute jewish minds, so did nobody ever questioned the many christ-conscious references and christian myths and symbols? As well as the ancient Verdic myths/symbols? ???

Daytripper:
“On the Matrix being derivative or outright stolen from other sources -
If it had been in the slightest it's own thing, instead of cobbled together from other (mostly - if not all - better) stuff, would it not stand to reason to expect it to, well, hold together better?”

Yep, If you did not write the story, then its meaning is not encrypted within your brain. And because they stole somebody else her ideas, they of course lacked the insights. And without the original insight, one can not create a understanding within the mind of the viewers, nor explain Reeves all about his character.




FinderWolf:
“I certainly believe the script has symbolic meaning and a message that's important for our culture/society, and some arcane/occult things thrown in here and there... but I doubt it was designed a mystical hypersigil”

Absolutely, aim of the whole story was to make people aware of our current reality…and the situation of our current affairs and what will happen if the people do not act and change this reality, her story is about explaining and predicting… that what you think you see is not that what you think you see… to make people aware of the many realities within the realities perceived by the bulk of the people…to try to make the people understand that we are the co-creators of our reality…that thought manifestation is real, and not some wishful thinking of new agers and not some nonsense coming from the way of ancient indian etc believes , the story is about warning the peoples and at the same time giving solutions which are very real and can be accomplished , its trying to make people understand that what you choose will define your future, as well as that what you cause will have an effect, and at the same time its trying to make people understand who the rulers are and what they are trying to achieve… its trying to tell the peoples certain things, which our rulers do not want the peoples to know, not yet anyway. The story is about creating an awareness in such ways that would make the people recognise that its not about just being some mystical movie, but that its actually about us, the here an now, hoping that people would understand how dangerous our society is evolving and that if we do not do any, meaning stand up and fight that what our rulers are planning for us ( which is actually manifesting since the last few years) we will become the machines. Fighting against the machines means nothing else than to fight against the technology that is surely and fast enslaving humanity. Its trying to tell the viewers that everything is put in reverse a long time ago, and that we are living our lives backwards, and its trying to tell you that there is no messiah, that christianity for instance has been used to fool the world, and that religion has been using the tale of a messiah in order to be able to proceed with their plans for absolute w-domination. That the messiah tale is used to make people sit and endure all the wrong doings of our leaders. For if a flock believes that a messiah will come to safe their sorry asses they will not stand up and resist, but wait for this messiah to come and safe them, not. Its trying to make people realise that we all are and can be messiahs, if we would just understand that we are all a part of the universal god, is source, to whom we are connected with through our heart, and that we all can create a different world, if we would just understand that we are the co-creators of our world and its affairs. Neo is not a messiah, rather he represents all of us. The symbols names and numbers if decoded , tell you all that they do not want us to know. But most of all the story was meant to make us recognise and understand, that we are not free peoples, and to create a absolute resistance within the mind of the viewers, against the system we live in.
To sum it up, look around you, do not look at the movie as being some fantasy tale, but look at it and pull it directly into the here and now, wake up, go back to the source, and get up and do something, fight for your freedom …
Sooner than most people realise we will be walking around like absolute controlled slaves of the new system that is being created by our world leaders right now. The world has been birthing new resistance groups for these last few years, everywhere, in the western worlds. These are the peoples who are trying to fight the system, which is creating absolute police states everywhere, meaning in the UK and the Netherlands as well. The year 2005 will confront many of us with absolute new control laws. The tracking of people has been openly announced this year already, the UK started with this last September and the Netherlands started with this last October. The new scanning pass-ports/ID’s have been introduced already. Why I am saying these things? The Matrix is not about the far future but about now, and the architect is not about one master mind but about all the few families who are pulling the strings… and we are their puppets, no matter what you believe.


“The aide (a senior adviser to President Bush) said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your *judicious study of
*discernible reality.'
I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and *empiricism. He cut me off.
'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an *empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality – judiciously, as you will –we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too,
and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors ... and you,all of you, will be left to just study what we do." –
Ron Suskind, New York Times Magazine, Oct. 17, 2004.”

Merge the Matrix with the here and now…


If not, we will be singing happy 1984, hello you brave new world, walking around and resembling the characters in Brasil, while saluting to the ways of Machiavelli ,discovering that what John Locke wrote was taken into consideration by our world leaders, and used to pull the blinds over our eyes, and wandering how come we did not see, all of a sudden remembering what Friederich Engles and Karl Marx said a long time ago.

Of course many of you will frown and will not be able to resist the temptation of telling me that I must be nuts, as well as not being able to resist the temptation of ridiculing moi
But as Jack fear and all who belong to the old school know very well… I enjoy a good ride.

How many satellites hang above your country? How many cameras hang in your country? How many mast are in your country? How many mobile phones? How many security measures and new laws have been added to your system? How much is done to ‘protect’ the peoples from terrorist attacks?

How long do you think you can enjoy the internet? Not that much longer

At the information-technology security conference in Washington they said;

"We still think the Internet is a free and open society with no control or accountability,but ultimately the Wild West must give way to governance and control.

THE INTERNET SHOULD BE USED ONLY BY THE RESPONSIBLE AND THOSE WHO ARE SECURITY
CONSCIOUS,... NO MORE 'SURFING THE WORLD WIDE WEB'!"

How much ‘protection’ is needed before one can sing good morning 1984?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
01:10 / 19.12.04
I don't think I know that one. Could you hum a few bars?
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
02:00 / 19.12.04
Wait, let me see if I have the gist of this:

 
  

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