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Doctor Who returns?

 
  

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Mister Six, whom all the girls
18:18 / 24.09.03
"None of the old doctors were very well known (as far as I know) before they took the role."

Yeah, well Davison was in that Vet show and Colin Baker was in The Brothers, right? And McCoy was known a little for children's TV. I thought that Hartnell was moderately known from the 'Carry On...' films and such. By and large you are right. Even McGann was not very well known.

But Smith would slur under the console, 'feggin c'million circuit's all smeared with grape jam... huh... alsations in paradox... 'splain layt-uh...' But he would have no companions. You could put Brix with him, I guess. But no more clever ploys against the villain, just wild stairs and pummeling.

My god... it could WORK!!
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
20:14 / 24.09.03
But he would have no companions.

Nah, he'd just have a continually changing line up of companions, who would either get pissed off with him and leave or else he'd just chase them all out of the Tardis in a fit of abuse leaving all of these disgruntled assistants stranded throughout time. There's your first seasons arc ready-made.

"maladjusted cyberman in hot weather! paranoid dalek informant-uh!"

It would totally work.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
08:14 / 25.09.03
I think Malcolm McDowell might make an interesting Dr Who, with his white hair he'd be like a really nasty sinister William Hartnell type Doctor. It could work if you had an actor who is genuinely unlike the previous incarnations, but cool and interesting in his own right, with certain distinct traits of Who-ness carried over into the character.

I think a lot of the casting problems come from getting people to 'act like' Doctor Who, rather than 'be' him. If you had someone like Simon Callow in the role, you immediatly picture him in a floppy hat doing his best Tom baker impersonation - he's a good actor and could probably carry it off OK, but Tom Baker at his best was never a cheap imitation of John Pertwee was he? A cup of tea and a slice of cake, and all of that shit.

I'm envisioning a 'Four Doctor's' christmas special where the Tom baker, Malcolm McDowell, Shane McGowan, and Mark E Smith incarnations of the Doctor team up to battle Terrence Stamp as the Master.
 
 
rizla mission
08:34 / 25.09.03
But no more clever ploys against the villain, just wild stairs and pummeling.

"wild stairs and pummeling" is a Fall lyric or song title if ever I heard one.

Yeah - Dr. Smith would totally have to defeat villians with his "wild stairs".. like his equivalent of the sonic screwdriver or something..
 
 
Tom Coates
11:15 / 25.09.03
Malcolm McDowell would be awesome, I think. Good voice.
 
 
Saveloy
13:02 / 25.09.03
A colleague, at my suggestion that perhaps a lady doctor would be nice, came up with:

PENELOPE. F***ING. KEITH.

No one can beat that. The debate is over.
 
 
Mister Six, whom all the girls
13:49 / 25.09.03
Actually, I've been thinking, it's a shame that Hartnell, Troughton, and Pertwee are dead. I was thinking of a series kinda like Golden Girls where all the old Doctors live together in Malibu and find comfort in getting old together. The catch phrase as each 'Doctor' entered the house could be 'Any work?' answered by wild laughter by all present. It could still work, with Bakers T and C, and McCoy living together, playing pranks on Davison and crank calling McGann from time to time (since he still gets roles).

But I need a title.

So is anyone going to visit gallifreyone.com to share their fave Doctor Who memories and watch the BBCi episodes when they come on? I mean, I love all eras of the show to be honest, but realistically, the show's been in the shitter since, what... '78? It would take a cadre of talented people, a gifted actor, and just the right delivery to make the show work. It could work, but it would have to again be like an act of God to not make it crap.

Actually, for the show to return at all would be astounding. The following is there but... Hell, Blakes 7 is coming back! Maybe Dr who will return!
 
 
Mister Six, whom all the girls
01:33 / 26.09.03
From gallifreyone.com (not a gaybar website... not a site that says that the Doctor is gay... at all... ever):

"In a breaking news story that is sure to cause considerable debate, Friday morning's London Daily Telegraph newspaper features a headline article (already released to their web service) entitled Doctor Who ready to come out of the Tardis for Saturday TV series by Tom Leonard, Media Editor, which states that Doctor Who will finally be coming back to television as a series (though a limited one). Outpost Gallifrey has received a few emails over the past week hinting that something "was soon to be announced," and we were just alerted that the article is now online on the Telegraph, with a similar article to run on Friday morning in the Guardian newspaper. Furthermore, author Mark Campbell ("Pocket Essentials: Doctor Who") has been asked to appear on a Welsh radio news programme on Friday morning to comment on the "return" of the show.

"The article says that "in a move that heralds the most eagerly anticipated comeback in television history, BBC1 said yesterday that it is developing a new series of the sci-fi classic." But, says the article, "in a development that may alarm purists, the new series is being written by Russell T Davies, the creator of Queer As Folk, the controversial Channel 4 drama about gay life in Manchester, and Bob and Rose, an ITV drama about a homosexual man falling for a straight woman." Davies says he wants to 'introduce the character to a modern audience'. It will also be limited, at this time, to one six-part series.

"Lorraine Heggessey, controller of BBC1, is apparently completely supportive (though she makes note that the Doctor will not be gay, despite the subject matter of the writer's previous material, noting that Davies was chosen because of his knowledge of Doctor Who and experience in television. (We would point out that Davies has written for Doctor Who before, as author of the Virgin New Adventures novel "Damaged Goods".) Heggessey also apparently says in the article that it is "too early to say which of the Doctor's most famous enemies, who include the Cybermen, the Master and the Sea Devils, would return, but insiders said it was unthinkable that the Daleks would not be trundling back into action." Casting has not been undertaken at press time but the article mentions Richard E. Grant, Paul McGann and Alan Davies as possible choices. Heggessey then discusses the rights issues. "Worldwide has now agreed," she says, "that, as they haven't made the film and I've been waiting for two years, it's only right that BBC1 should have a crack at making a series." The series is not likely be be broadcast before 2005. Says Davies: "The new series will be fun, exciting, contemporary and scary."

"The editor of Outpost Gallifrey wishes to emphasize that we are merely reprinting the report from the Daily Telegraph and any factual errors are theirs, not ours; the article can be read online by clicking here (you have to register, but it's free). While this might come as a shocking development, considering its run in respectable newspapers we have every confidence that there is at least some truth in the report. And if it is true, Doctor Who fans have cause for celebration. Outpost Gallifrey will keep you updated on any and all developments on this breaking story.

"Update 0245 GMT: The Irish Examiner has picked up the story with new quotes from Mal Young, BBC controller of continuing drama series. "It’s time to crank up the Tardis and find out what lies in store for the Doctor," says Young. "We’re thrilled to have a writer of Russell’s calibre to take us on this journey. However we’re a the very early stages of development and further details including casting will not be available for some time." We've also received reports from folks online that Sky News Radio Overnight has reported the story but it's not yet on their web service."


... um... Alan Davies. Who called it?
 
 
Saint Keggers
02:47 / 26.09.03
Not knowing who Alan Davies was my mind imeadiatly pictured Alan Moore. Which I think would be much cooler in a scary/odd way.
Ive always wanted to see David Bowie take a stab at the doctor or that balding guy from Black Books.

If they ever make a canadian version my vote is for Donald Sutherland.
Actually if they make a canadian version of anythign my vote is for Donald Sutherland.
 
 
Sax
06:30 / 26.09.03
This just in... Russell T Davis, writer of Queer as Folk, on board the Tardis to pen Who's adventures to be broadcast in two years' time.

I'm loving it already.
 
 
Sax
06:31 / 26.09.03
linky
 
 
Sax
06:32 / 26.09.03
Arse, didn't read Mr Six's post properly. Blame it on a belch of the space-time continuum.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
07:21 / 26.09.03
Russell T Davies is the perfect choice (especially for anyone else who thought The Second Coming was excellent).

People have mentioned Malcolm Mcdowell, but what about Malcolm Mclaren? A Doctor who consistently exploited his young charges to further his own ends...
 
 
Spaniel
08:26 / 26.09.03
Malcolm Mclaren?

What about Michael Portillo?

God, I hope they don't give it to Davis.
 
 
Chubby P
08:32 / 26.09.03
I called Alan Davies but I had seen his name mentioned a while ago as a potential Doctor. (I still think its because he has the hair)

Another name that was bandied about a few months back was Anthony Stewart Head.

Virgin Megastores are selling Who DVDs for £9.99 at the moment. This week I've just watched Ressurection of the Daleks and Rembrance of the Daleks.
 
 
Chubby P
08:36 / 26.09.03
And while I'm continuing my happy dance I'll share with you the best line from Doctor Who ever.

Tom Baker turns round to K9 and says, "You know, you never fucking know the answer when it's
important!" Sound File ).

In fact thats the only Tom baker scene I've ever seen and that was on "TVs Naughtiest Blunders".
 
 
Chubby P
09:53 / 26.09.03
And thirdly fuelling the Alan Davies rumour:

Alan Davies was on ITV1's "This Morning" this week, where he stated that he was working on "a new series that isn't really new", and that he would start filming it "next year". Coincidence?
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
10:02 / 26.09.03
Tony Head would be interesting, might help sell it back to the Americans as 'star of TV's Buffy the Vampire Slayer (not, not Sarah Michelle Gellar, or Alyson Hannigan, look, Doctor Who is a bloke allright? No, not Xander, not Spike either (do you really think we'd let him have a go after what he's done to the English accent? Yes, it's Anthony Stewart Head! What do you mean, 'who'?)' although I think he'd probably be too reminiscent of Giles.

Alan Davies should be shot through both legs if necessary to prevent him from playing the part. I haven't got anything against him and he's alright in Jonathan Creek but frankly the only reason to hire him would be that 'he looks a bit like one of the other Doctors' which is hardly a good enough reason.

It should be someone from theatre who hasn't done much telly, so there isn't much baggage. I'm thinking someone like Trevor eve but who isn't Trevor Eve. I would also suggest that everyone agrees to pretend that the Doctor Who TV movie never happened and they get Mccoy back again to do another regeneration scene. I did have an idea for a 'New Adventures' story a long time ago where at the end of time human's finally work out how to do time travel and send the earth back in time where it becomes Gallifrey then at the end of time again the decayed Gallifreyan culture travel back in time again but it goes wrong and it becomes the home planet of the Daleks but I can't remember anything else.

What would be really good is, if we have the Cybermen in it again they will have become so allergic to gold that the Doctor only has to say the word and they explode in terror...
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
10:38 / 26.09.03
Guardian.

And I want Paul Bettany to do Who.
 
 
some guy
11:33 / 26.09.03
Fucking Hell. Damaged Goods was the best WHO novel ever. I'm still wetting myself...
 
 
gridley
14:49 / 26.09.03
Tony Head would be interesting

Yeah, but only if he gets to sing! Dr. Who: The Rock Opera

Dig it!
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
17:39 / 26.09.03
Great, now I want to see Who the musical (which with the number of retrospectives going on in the West End at the moment would probably work quite well) with Tony head in the lead and the cast of Buffy playing Who's assistants of yore. God I miss Buffy.

Head would be a good choice. Stephen Fry if he kept the campness, dropped the naivety and became more sinister. Penelope Keith is inspire, though I think Felicity Kendal, weirdly, would also make a good doctor, though I may just be saying that. If ever there was a time to mourn the passing of Jeremy Brett. Richard O'Brien? Alan Moore writing Who, again, would be fun especially if you could talk him into taking acid again.

Surely the 5 doctors TV film (one of my favorites) was the Golden Girls of the doctors?
 
 
cusm
19:00 / 26.09.03
Personally, had I Supreme Control over this, I'd have Morrison writing Jhonny Depp as Who. Think about it. Depp vs the psychic nano-daleks from E-space. All shot on low budget video with blue screen graphics. Put Malcom McDowel in as the ghost of The Master from an alternate future timeline trying to rewrite himself back into reality and a new regeneration cycle by tricking the Doctor into bungling something while saving the universe against a Cthuloid threat the Master orchestrated as a distraction. You know it'd be brilliant. And probably shoot about 6 episodes before being canceled. The world might not be ready for a tantra powered zen-drive propelling the new Tartus through the singuality of null-space as its temporal engine starring Johnny Depp as Hunter S. Who. But I'd sure go for that.
 
 
rizla mission
20:35 / 26.09.03
Pondering how a new Dr. Who series could be original and strange and dump all the baggage of the previous incarnations, my brother suggests the following;

The doctor is regenerated as a hind-legs walking, waistcoat wearing cat, puss-in-boots style. He doesn't talk, but somebody with a voice reminiscent of Jimmy Stewert does a voiceover, explaining his actions in the style of "The Incredible Journey".

- beat that.
 
 
osymandus
07:00 / 27.09.03
Ok the Doctor is incarnated as a squirrel, that has a predaliction for wearing deerstalker hats and waxing his fine handlbar mustache.

He variously reinacts a number of famous millitary battles while being voiced over my the alas deceased Johnny Morris (who is being channled by a differnet psuedo celebrity ) every week.

Johnny Depp plays the Tardis and all the assitances are stoats , guenie pigs and rabbits !
 
 
Tom Coates
20:24 / 27.09.03
They're going to fuck it up, of course. On the other hand - it'll have been worth it for funniest Doctor Who thread ever.
 
 
William Sack
21:09 / 27.09.03
From the Daily Telegraph:
"In a development that may alarm purists, the new series is being written by Russell T Davies, the creator of Queer As Folk, the controversial Channel 4 drama about gay life in Manchester, and Bob and Rose, an ITV drama about a homosexual man falling for a straight woman.

Although Davies says he wants to "introduce the character to a modern audience", Lorraine Heggessey, the controller of BBC1, insisted yesterday that she did not expect a gay Doctor Who."
 
 
some guy
12:09 / 29.09.03
Would these be the "purists" who already worship Davies and know he's one of us?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
20:53 / 29.09.03
I think they may mean "Puritans". The Telegraph frowns on pretty much everything, but it saves a special frown for gayness and sex on TV, which means Davies must be the Antichrist.

It also opens the door for the kid who payed Marcie in Dark Season to be our first female doctor, with Reet and Thomas as the assistants, Mr. Eldritch as a recurring villain and Vince a slightly hapless member of UNIT.

Nice. Servalan may also feature.
 
 
at the scarwash
01:18 / 30.09.03
Reading that Who has been being shopped unsuccessfully around Hollywood by BBC Worldwide for two years makes me wonder what would have become of the property had a coke-addled L.A. producer decided to pick it up. "Yeah, baby. Dr. Who. Sci-fi, right. Love that Star Trek shit. Y'ever see the Tek Wars mini on late night cable? That was me, baby. Lemme see here, There's this Master guy, right? The heavy? You ever see The Scorpion King? I'm thinkin' the Rock. He's got those eyebrows. Now that's a villain."
 
 
gridley
12:59 / 30.09.03
Hollywood continues to improve Dr. Who:

"So this Doctor Who guy is British, right? Then I know the perfect guy to play him: Mike Meyers! Yeah, baby. Like Austin Powers, only with better teeth and a long scarf! And he's definitely got to get it on with at least one of the companion. Maybe a sort of love triangle. Everybody wants to sleep with the Doctor! Did you ever see Dr. Detroit? I think we should watch that for some ideas. Now, who are we going to get to co-ordinate the fight sequences?"
 
 
Tom Coates
16:55 / 01.10.03
I just saw Tom Baker on BBC LDN news and he (after not very much prodding) managed to let loose the name of Eddie Izzard for the role. Everyone looked a bit startled because two minutes before he'd said that he'd been told but was sworn to secrecy. I think - personally - that despite the fact he's admirably cool, Izzard's too comedy. But certainly it's an interesting gutsy choice...
 
 
gridley
17:47 / 01.10.03
Izzard did a great dramatic performance as Charlie Chaplin in that one film. I'm sure he could pull it off.
 
 
Mister Six, whom all the girls
14:13 / 03.10.03
The BBC debunked the statement, saying that Baker was just speculating.

But I think Izzard could pull it off if properly directed. But so could Rowan Atkinson. I'm still terribly entertained by Izzard's speechless performances in the Avengers and Mystery Men.

See: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3158624.stm

Also, Gallifrey One is running a list of contenders. http://www.gallifreyone.com/
 
 
Tom Coates
10:18 / 04.10.03
Tom Coates: I want ACTUAL GOOD SCIENCE FICTION HORROR
Tom Coates: so SCARY stuff
Tom Coates: like X-files, but not QUITE as gros
David Pannett: could you get away with using the old villains in that scenario or not? Or could you just "reimagine" them?
Tom Coates: I think it's fine to use them
Tom Coates: just sparingly
Tom Coates: basically you have to face the fact that many of them are a bit out of date
David Pannett: true
David Pannett: but you'd have to have a Daleks arc, right?
Tom Coates: Of some kind, certainly
Tom Coates: but concentrating on what made them really freaky
David Pannett: it's the voice
David Pannett: always the voice
Tom Coates: that they were genetically and biologically altered created
Tom Coates: made violent and destructive
Tom Coates: in vats
David Pannett: and not being able to work out how their guns actually killed people
David Pannett: Davros was fucking scary
Tom Coates: the creepy thing about the daleks is how they debased themselves to win wars
Tom Coates: how they MADE themselves inhuman
Tom Coates: I think I'd do something like have a dalek ship fall into the hands of the British Government
Tom Coates: who give over information to a small rural protected science facility
Tom Coates: and let an unscrupulous scientist start creating Daleks out of humans
David Pannett: hmmm
David Pannett: interesting
Tom Coates: that would be terrifying and gross
David Pannett: indeed
Tom Coates: then you look around at the actuallly scary decent sci fi pictures of the last few years
Tom Coates: things like Cube
Tom Coates: or the horror films like Cabin Fever and 28 Days Later
Tom Coates: and dig around in comic books to get viral ideas that enslave people
Tom Coates: and distributed consciousnesses
Tom Coates: and people behaving like flocks of birds
Tom Coates: bits of Midwich Cuckoos
Tom Coates: bits of The Prisoner
Tom Coates: and some actually decent Time-Travel Storylines
Tom Coates: I WANT A REALLY WEIRD TIME-PARADOX WHODUNNIT
David Pannett: yeah, the Brits do that kind of creepy shit well
David Pannett: reference The Wicker Man
Tom Coates: exACTly
Tom Coates: that's the stuff we should be looking at
12:15 pm
Tom Coates: They should keep looking at the reference points
Tom Coates: things like Saphire and steel
Tom Coates: Day of the Triffids
David Pannett: precisely!
Tom Coates: even that Signs film with Mel Gibson wouldn't go too far amiss
Tom Coates: I love the idea of the Tardis crash-landing in a completely empty routine part of a planet under attack
Tom Coates: in a totally isolated farm-house
Tom Coates: with some terrified paranoid people
David Pannett: mmm
David Pannett: there's so much you can do with it
Tom Coates: totally
Tom Coates: TOTALLY
 
  

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