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The Natural Way
12:36 / 11.08.04
I must admit my alarm bells rang for that one.

Stop playing fast and loose with yr argument, Gambit!
 
 
_Boboss
13:04 / 11.08.04
about the spider-man films? no.

they're only films about spider-man, i'll say what i like.
 
 
_Boboss
13:06 / 11.08.04
thanks for the photie flybs, you've just reminded me how much like a cat the actress looks.
 
 
deja_vroom
12:38 / 12.08.04
I completely fucking fail to understand *why* Flyboy is an "idiot". I can only assume he had the audacity to disagree with you at some point, Jade.

Varriage: Can't you even fucking *read*?? Flyboy didn't "disagree" with me, or with anyone else, he just came in, let out a bit of contemptuous bile, and fled. That I have to repeatedly explain the obvious is really starting to get on my nerves.
 
 
_Boboss
12:41 / 12.08.04
man, flybs can be a goof sometimes but you're definitely the king of all bellends.
 
 
deja_vroom
12:42 / 12.08.04
And, Flyboy, whenever I make statements where "you" equates to "twat", It's only natural that I'll have much more basis than usual.
 
 
deja_vroom
12:43 / 12.08.04
Oh, that hurts. "Gambit".
 
 
_Boboss
13:10 / 12.08.04
yurp, trying to turn someone's self-chosen screen name on an internet forum into an attempted dis. really cool, not bellendish either.

i remember the last time you turned up and made a prick of yourself, and in honour of it am considering changing my name to Jesus Gibson. would that annoy you greatly?
 
 
deja_vroom
13:16 / 12.08.04
Haha, you could always try, Gambit.
 
 
deja_vroom
13:24 / 12.08.04
...This is so 'lith it hurts: "Flybs" *reckons* openly in the forum he was being a twat (and for anyone paying attention, he even used "old skool" lingo when referring to it, which I can only assume means he's been at it for quite a while now...) and somehow, miraculously, I'm the bad guy. Shove it, Gambit. You're not even *that* interesting to begin with...
 
 
Bear
13:26 / 12.08.04
Gambit and Jade up a tree.....
 
 
CameronStewart
13:28 / 12.08.04
>>>C'mon, Cam, I expect better from you. Yr all into *the kids* and what they want, and, hey, guess what? The kids that read the Spidey books really like Venom. To my li'l bro and his friends, Venom's tops. He's the 90's spider-villain, like it or not.<<<

You get no argument from me that Venom is a popular villain with kids, but to use that as sole justification for making him (it?) the villain in movie 3 is, I think, a bit wrong-headed - clearly these films have been a labour of love for Sam Raimi, who is an admitted lifelong Spidey fan (who has also claimed to have no interest in Venom). He's making the movies that he wants to make, not what the teen test-market focus groups want, and it's obviously paying off in quality. If making creative decisions based only on what was popular was the mandate, we wouldn't have any of the excellent cast, the script would be entirely rewritten and the movie would end up being a lot different than it was. Probably more like...hmm, Daredevil or Catwoman.
 
 
CameronStewart
13:35 / 12.08.04
Oh, and next person to say that Peter's neighbour is gonna be Black Cat gets a slap. If nothing else, her character's name is Ursula Ditkovich, not Felicia Hardy - and with so much attention to detail paid elsewhere, you'd reasonably expect them to not arbitrarily change the character's name.

Flyboy is dead on the money - her purpose in the script is to renew Peter's flagging faith in humanity and provide him with a moment of kindness - NOT to foreshadow a new super-character. See, that's what makes the script as good as it is...
 
 
_Boboss
13:55 / 12.08.04
jade is walking away from the tree dazed, bandy-legged and with quite the changed perspective, and i might get a slap off the hardest comicbook artist in town if i say the black cat chick's the black cat hhhmmm now i know how parker really feels...

ursula/felicia - that's going in the same drawer as the blonde/white hair thing for me - if she ain't the cat then i found those scenes boring really, weakens the script in my eyes.

and if it's not venom - we'll just assume the john jameson stuff in spidey 2 is more flab - then i hope it's not just the lizard. he's not really exciting enough visually, he'll just end up looking a bit like a velociraptor with a boner for rainforests. don't think raimi's plot sensibilities lend themselves to mysterio, but a rerun of the goblin without at least a couple of new sidekicks or something to break it up would be a letdown. they want to have campbell play someone dead crap like the shocker or kangaroo, and have him punched out early on. campbell'd be a perfect kraven actually.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
14:28 / 12.08.04
Away from the Jade/Gambit love-in, whilst I tend to agree with those who are naysaying Pete's landlord's daughter being the Black Cat next time, I don't think Cameron's argument over names would necessarily hold as, though I've never seen every appearence, I don't think Doc Ock ever had a wife, dead or alive. It's a different thing I know, but I suspect if he wanted to Raimi could make her the Black Cat, I just don't think he would. And with both Batman Two Catwoman and the awful Halle Berry Catwoman around in media space, would he want a cat-related villain on screen?
 
 
FinderWolf
18:10 / 12.08.04
The one thing I've read and I still don't understand in all this fast n' furious debate:

>> A random act of kindness from a stranger is a good and fine idea, but this girl has the horn. THE HORN! Something that suggests a narrative, a function as part of a plot - something requiring resolution.

The horn? What were you talking about here? Does she have an actual horn in the scene? Or are you coining a phrase here, like "the horn" means a watermark moment in a scene?

I vote that no matter what peoples' thoughts are on the issue, it doesn't need to get spiteful. Respek!
 
 
CameronStewart
19:18 / 12.08.04
FinderWolf -

Got the horn = horny. UK slang term. Popularised by Dudley Moore and Peter Cook in their "Derek and Clive" personas.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:25 / 12.08.04
Ah, I certainly am familiar with the term 'horny,' but not that version of it. Thanks Cam!

And just to sneak one more in, just because she's hot for Peter, is clumsy, and has pie and milk with Peter means she must be the Black Cat? I think not...
 
 
grant
15:39 / 13.08.04
, I don't think Doc Ock ever had a wife, dead or alive

Nah, in some of the comics I remember, he was actually dating Aunt May for a while.

I loved that.
 
 
Brigade du jour
16:58 / 13.08.04
Yeah I remember that issue:

AUNT MAY: Guy with eight hands? Sounds hot.
 
 
Brigade du jour
01:33 / 06.09.04
Just saw it the second time (stayed for the swing version of the title theme at the very very end, thanks for the tip, grant!).

Oh fuck me, it rocks! I welled up again, couldn't believe it after making such a public lip-wobbling pudding of myself back in Leicester Square June '02, but here's where it happened in this movie:

First, in the half-awake dream-type sequence when Pete's considering hanging up the webs ...

UNCLE BEN (dead of course, but this is a half-awake dream-type sequence, cut me some damn slack, bitch!): Take my hand, son ...

But that's probably that whole 'male bonding' thing that always gets to me in movies. Hey ho ...

The other bit that actually brought proper tears to my eyes (and I was sitting next to a burly guy but it's okay cos, like, he jumped at the scary bits, big wuss!) was when Pete rescued the wee bairn from the fire, with no superpowers, no sexy costume, no nothing. Just ran in like a crazy mad heroic fool and did it. Gave the kid to the parents and ran off. Fucking star! Reminded me of that Spidey/Luke Cage team-up story circa 1978 where this building's burning down and they help the firefighters and stuff.

Also, the whole saving the train bit ... fucking hell, I genuinely stopped breathing for a moment there! And I actually really dug the 'Godspell'-esque carrying of the prone Spidey over the heads of the passengers. Didn't quite bring forth tears, but seemed to work much better second time round, seemed to flow better from 'thank fuck they're not going to die' relief emotion to 'they even saved his mask, blub' soppy emotion.

Jesus, I'm so fucking happy right now! I think the central message of the movie (if I may seek to identify such an unwieldy and probably baseless thing) is that most people, when you get down to it, are basically okay. I know, I know, millions of movies try and ram that particular molten bronze droplet of philosophical wisdom down our throats, but here's the thing. Spidey 2 doesn't ram it down your throat. It kind of softly coos it in your ear like a conciliatory lover, subtly offering the promise that everything'll be okay in amongst all the wall-mounted fistfights, moral dilemmas and highly amusing if unlikely 300ft death-falls on to rooftops that result in no serious long-term injury.

Spidey 2 is a mixture of romance, action, comedy and growth drama, and that sounds fucking awful, but blow me down, it works!

Um ... in my opinion. Like, all of the above.
 
 
fluid_state
04:46 / 06.09.04
I think the central message of the movie ... is that most people, when you get down to it, are basically okay.

'Nuff said.

(I understand that's the "hip lingo" in this case)
 
 
The Natural Way
18:56 / 06.09.04
I don't know what I think about this BC business anymore. I don't mind the girl playing the *human kindness* function, and I know the script feels freer s[sp? that just looks weird.] and more expansive if it allows for these little moments w/ characters outside of continuity...

I think I'm being persuaded, actually.

They call me an arrogant back-slapper, but I think I'm quite bendy, really.............
 
 
Char Aina
21:35 / 06.09.04
(it looks wierd cos its 'more free')
 
 
The Natural Way
10:53 / 07.09.04
That's not true. I've just checked it. "Freer" is a word.
 
 
_Boboss
11:34 / 07.09.04
yeh yeh that's right

join us, join us all right, i mean me

i may be wrong, but you're guaranteed more fun on my team for the two years its going to take to find out.
 
  

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