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Ganesh
16:04 / 27.04.03
Iszabelle, that's the sort of thing that fascinates me (even if the statistics element of their methodology leaves me slightly baffled). Cheers for the link...
 
 
Hero_Zero
05:59 / 28.04.03
ReformedRobotMan...You claim to be a psychic and have the knowings and goings on of the mayan calander. You mention 2010 as a big time for mind evolution from what I gather.

I ask this if your so in the know what exactly happens on or around December 22nd 2012 ?
 
 
gravitybitch
13:46 / 28.04.03
Well, if it makes anybody feel better, I pulled three cards out of the deck last night with this in mind. In order, they were:

Death

The Magician

The Star

Make of it what you will. It's rarely clear to me until after the fact what sort of scale a divination is about - if I draw cards for myself for a pretty focussed question I often get general info; drawings for a rather broad situation usually result in an intensely personal reading - so I've shifted to asking a general "what's up with this?" and attempted to guess the breadth of the reading from the cards involved.

My guess is that this covers the general situation of the "shift" (but if it's just about me, I'm in for one hell of a ride!!).
 
 
MJ-12
14:17 / 28.04.03
I ask this if your so in the know what exactly happens on or around December 22nd 2012 ?

It’s a Singularity, so being unpredictable/inexplicable is part of its nature.
 
 
pomegranate
18:13 / 28.04.03
are you ready for the Rapture?
 
 
pomegranate
18:16 / 28.04.03
dammit, i screwed up the link somehow...
anyways it's www.raptureready.com
 
 
cusm
18:20 / 28.04.03
Oh, or the 20th (if you're Mayan).

Or the 15th, if you think a full lunal eclipse is notable enough to put on your light body for.
 
 
--
19:16 / 28.04.03
The rapture? Really, this is all starting to get a bit silly now.
 
 
Who's your Tzaddi?
22:09 / 28.04.03
***scratches forehead***


I ask this if your so in the know what exactly happens on or around December 22nd 2012 ?

I know this year we have Return of the King...
 
 
LVX23
22:43 / 28.04.03
Think ELF or E.L.F programming

Erisian Liberation Front??!!

Those bastards! When will they accept that the one true order of Discord is the Legion of Dynamic Discord!

FNORD-
 
 
the Fool
23:14 / 28.04.03
Look, can I be really boring and put my hand up for postive thinking and the truly transforming power of being silly and having a laugh.

[insert fart joke here]

But seriously, this 'car crash mentality' prophesising, dire 'warnings' of impending doom, pointless shifts affecting loads of people we don't know, its just so arrogant and immature. Why not be immature the fun way and make things up, tell stupid jokes and make fun of music we don't like (gee Britany's hair is so, like, yesterday!! duh!).

Stuff like this is like catching a meme cold. It infects and spreads like metaSARS. We need anti-viralmeme cold and flu meta tablets! I prescrible a regular dose of dancing for barbelith, now available a your favourite club. If your body has an allergic reaction to dancing I recommend other forms of Joy, movies, theatre, art even walking in the park. In a couple of days you'll feel much better!
 
 
--
01:15 / 29.04.03
Speaking of Barbelith:

I work at a supermarket called Super Stop & Shop. Our logo shows two round lights, one black, one red. I've been toiling at this nothing job for six years now. I think that the red light personifies that. I think it's time that light turns to green and I get a more fullflling job elsewhere. My supermarket years are an intitation of boredom.

The Fool, you'd make Jack Frost proud. There's a reason why Dane was one of my favorite characters, he demystified most of the bullshit whenever one of the other characters (usually King Mob) got on their high horse.
 
 
the Fool
03:02 / 29.04.03
The Fool, you'd make Jack Frost proud.

thanks. *blush*
 
 
Sebastian
11:22 / 29.04.03
Meme or not, this is big. I saw worlds approaching this one. Of course, it could be just my own world...

I always picture a meme as a seed of experience. Of course, its easier to fight it at its meme stage, before it breeds into a full blown bloody universe... good luck with the tablets.
 
 
Quantum
14:15 / 29.04.03
I picture a meme as a tiny fairy/spirit creature that splits like an amoeba and leaps into the head of the meme recipient, then frolics about doing it's thing and either dies or breeds.
But I'm with The Fool, Joy not Doom! Dance for Barbelith, dance! It's nice to get a heads up on any potential stuff, but personally I take it with a pinch of salt- I think May will be great. I've got a good Beltaine planned, friends to visit, two bank holidays, then June hurrah!
 
 
LVX23
16:54 / 29.04.03
Fool wrote:
But seriously, this 'car crash mentality' prophesising, dire 'warnings' of impending doom, pointless shifts affecting loads of people we don't know, its just so arrogant and immature.

Given that people have been making such predictions since the beginning of time, I think it's a bit arrogant of you to say that they're all full of shit. Better to analyze each of it's own merit and cut out the noise from the signal.

Apocalyptic mythology has always been a very powerful meme - e.g. Revelations, Nostradamus, Maya, etc. Were all of these seers arrogant and immature? Isn't it curious that they all point to roughly the current era? Could it be that there really is a large paradigm shift afoot? Not necessarily in two weeks but maybe in the course of the next 50 years?

If you think our evolution is all going to be dancing and flowers, then I suggest you take a hard look at socioeconomic power structures and the common denominator of the status quo.

Me, I'll be dancing with flowers in one hand and a gun in the other.
 
 
--
16:54 / 29.04.03
I always look forwards to June because that's when my birthday is. This year I turn 23. In the year 2003. On June 17 (6+17=23). Heh heh heh...
 
 
cusm
17:33 / 29.04.03
The thing is though, there is ALWAYS a paradigm shift happening. Its a fluid thing, the world continues to evolve and change. It doesn't happen all at once, though you might just wake up one day and realize that the world has moved on and you missed it.
 
 
illmatic
17:44 / 29.04.03
I dunno, I'm with Fool on this one. he seems to be reacting quite reasonably to the vauge and nonsensical warnings which started this thread. I agree that their are wider cultural changes and patterns one can recognise or highlight if you chose to, but I don't think this is all coming to a climax in a fortnight's time.
 
 
penitentvandal
18:42 / 29.04.03
Even if something big does happen in May, it'll be just that: something BIG. Doesn't mean it'll have to be the Invasion of the Insect Men. I say we use this Big Youniversal Eruption of Cosmick Knowledge (or, as I like to call it, BY 'ECK), that seems to be approaching to add fuel to our own magickal fires, harvesting the floodtide of pure chaos to make ourselves more powerful, joyful, and in tune with the force of life itself.

Or to put it more basically, and in slightly less 'Free Will Astrology' language, ride that bad boy! Ride it now! Hoooo-eeee! Ye-haw! Giddyap!

Et cetera.

Besides, I know May is going to be a cool damn month for me, because it's the second part of my big, exciting Morrison/Quitely jumping-on point two-parter. Based on the way this month has gone it'll be one hell of a ride.

I can see it now, me in Newcastle, 2012, telling some homeless mate of mine the whole story: 'Ah, yes, May 2003, that was the month when I fought off the Anti-Avatar Invasion with only a salmon and a piece of rotting brie...'
 
 
LVX23
18:43 / 29.04.03
cusm wrote:
The thing is though, there is ALWAYS a paradigm shift happening.

Agreed. But sometimes change occurs in discrete jumps. Witness the Rennaisance blossoming out of the Dark Ages. Or the discovery of fire.

illmatic wrote:
I'm with Fool on this one. he seems to be reacting quite reasonably to the vauge and nonsensical warnings which started this thread

Totally. I'm just distinguishing between the stuff that started this thread and Apocalyptica in general.
 
 
LVX23
18:46 / 29.04.03
velvet wrote:
I can see it now, me in Newcastle, 2012, telling some homeless mate of mine the whole story: 'Ah, yes, May 2003, that was the month when I fought off the Anti-Avatar Invasion with only a salmon and a piece of rotting brie...'

LOL! Right, but of course you've already said that 'cause really you're a time traveler from 2012 sent here with salmon and brie to avert the Invasion (salmon = fish = christ; brie = cow = brahman).
 
 
gravitybitch
00:35 / 30.04.03
Hey, I'm all for a paradigm shift. I'm working on promoting several...


But, you have to admit that there is a sort of arrogance to thinking that this will be the end to end all ends... Why should we be so privileged??

And "end-times" thought patterns really scare me - "If the world is going to end in less than 10 years, why not drive an SUV? Go ahead, burn all the forests. Eat, drink, and be merry - the Rapture's coming and I won't have to clean it up!"
 
 
the Fool
01:47 / 30.04.03
Given that people have been making such predictions since the beginning of time, I think it's a bit arrogant of you to say that they're all full of shit. Better to analyze each of it's own merit and cut out the noise from the signal.

Exactly. But on the other hand, slavery has been with us a long time too and it doesn't make it more credible.

Apocalyptic mythology has always been a very powerful meme - e.g. Revelations, Nostradamus, Maya, etc. Were all of these seers arrogant and immature?

No, maybe? I haven't met them as of yet (hehehehe). The point is wanting an apocalyptic event to occur and thinking its a good thing is what I find arrogant. Loads of ordinary people have lives and they are not unimportant. They (and we) will bare the brunt of whatever catastrophe an apocalypse conjures up. Of course I'm thinking 'book of revelations' style apocalypso. Wouldn't something more 'gradual' be better for everyone. Less dramatic. Less needless violence and death... and less fear. Its more likely to work on more people. I'm not really talking about what is or what might be, only what you'd like to believe in and how that affects you and your reality.

Isn't it curious that they all point to roughly the current era? Could it be that there really is a large paradigm shift afoot? Not necessarily in two weeks but maybe in the course of the next 50 years?

Then lets actually experience it. Not pre-empt it. From a 5th dimensional perspective prophesy it just reality tunnel manfacturing using mass belief for both acceleration and navigation through probability space. Any destination is possible. If belief drives navigation then its quite important what you choose to believe and how you let it interact with your internal belief structures.

If you think our evolution is all going to be dancing and flowers, then I suggest you take a hard look at socioeconomic power structures and the common denominator of the status quo.

Personal evolution is what I'm about my friend. And what we choose to internalise in that process. My evolution is going to be dancing and flowers and joy. Maybe not all the time, but that's what I'm aiming for.

Me, I'll be dancing with flowers in one hand and a gun in the other.

If from the dreamlike perspective of 5d you decide to shoot someone, it can only be yourself. The gun is fear. Put it down. Gee, I sound like a wanker. Look, its whatever you want. I'm just in hippy mode...
la di da... pretty flowers!
 
 
LVX23
02:10 / 30.04.03
Well, in the context of discussing End Times theory, I guess it all depends on your personal relationship with this meme, how you anticipate such an event would play out if it came to pass. Fire & Brimstone? Or global consciousness awakening to it's own sense of Self? Or both?

To draw from GM, imagine that the human species is in a larval state, incubating and laying the foundation of it's own metamorphosis. By the cycle of the Sun and the rythmns of it's evolution humanity may be advancing on a higher level of functioning. Of course, metamorphosis implies Death, like the Phoenix risen from it's own ashes, so it's only too likely that we'll pass through some turbulence on the way to the party. Like McKenna suggests, perhaps we're moving through the shockwaves of the Eschaton passing backwards in time from that novel singularity. Or Joyce, "History is the nightmare from which we are trying to awaken"...
 
 
LVX23
02:15 / 30.04.03
Hehe, I was justing posting my response and saw that Fool had just posted his. Synchrorific!

He mentioned 5D too - exactly what I was thinking about with my 4D stuff. In fact I was going to write "On to the 5th dimension!" at the end but I decided to erase it.

I'll have more to write tomorrow...

Cheers!

Loving Barb,


c23
 
 
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03:38 / 30.04.03
I guess I just don't give the older cultures that much credibility. I mean, some of them thought the world was flat! Just because the Mayans made some calendar doesn't mean that the world revolves around that. I think mankind in general is extremely arrogant.

If I recall right two issues of the Filth are supposed to come out next month. maybe that's the big mind-warping thing.
 
 
LVX23
17:23 / 30.04.03
The point is wanting an apocalyptic event to occur and thinking its a good thing is what I find arrogant

Agreed. I certainly don't want an apocalypse, nor a fiery Revelation. I'm more into the idea of a quantum leap in how the human species interacts with itself and with Reality. I'm just pragmatic and accept that such a transition would likely be attended by a lot of strife. Such a change would shake the foundations of Rationalism and the edifice of civilization built upon it would no doubt buck and sway.

I'm not really talking about what is or what might be, only what you'd like to believe in and how that affects you and your reality.

Again, I totally agree. It's ALL about belief. That's why I chose not to live in fear of May Warnings and psychic predictions, or Apocalypses and Revelations. But still, I like to entertain these highly virulent memes, in an intellectual sense at least. And as you say, belief affects reality - if millions of people whole-heartedly believe in Revelations, then it will likely come to pass. I push for the opposing meme of global consciousness and the Death of Time, or at least the malleability of Reality.

If from the dreamlike perspective of 5d you decide to shoot someone, it can only be yourself. The gun is fear. Put it down.

Hehe. I love it! Of course the gun in hand is part of my Thelemic-Horus posturing...And, in theory, I agree that shooting anyone is the same as shooting yourself. But, again being pragmatic, I'll shoot if necessary when the irradiated hordes are trying to loot my home (cardboard box?), but I'll certainly put the gun down before stepping into hyperspace.

I'm just in hippy mode... la di da... pretty flowers!

Hey man, I'm all down with hippies. You have no idea how many Dead-lot veggie burritos I've eaten in my time... Still, I resonate more with the Warrior Priest than the Barefoot Mystic.
 
 
cusm
21:19 / 30.04.03
Eh. The next step in human evolution is practical immortality. Once medical science has it down well enough that keeping you alive is just a matter of replacement parts and an occasional tuneup, then you'll see a major paradign shift. I'll buy that before anything about putting on my light body.
 
 
Quantum
08:04 / 01.05.03
Happy May first. Seems fine so far...
The idea that we're about to quantum leap (snicker!) up to the next level of evolution just doesn't ring true for me. It would be lovely to think we were near some sort of ending but it's just not the case- the world will pootle on, people will still watch TV etc.
The fin de siecle obsession with apocalypse and eschatology is a reflection of our cultural neuroses- we want endings, closure, neatness, because we live in a world that gets ever more complex and messy. We've got a long way to go yet, and the world isn't going to clean itself up.
It's a societal version of the personal philosophy 'You might get hit by a bus tomorrow' to justify short term hedonism etc. to which my stock response is 'What if you don't?'
 
 
cusm
13:14 / 01.05.03
'What if you don't?'

Then enjoy some long term hedonism then

Just don't break the place in the process of having your fun today, so you can continue to have the fun years from now. Seems simple in theory.
 
 
Salamander
13:41 / 01.05.03
Could whatever it is that is about to happen be as bad as all the PC bullshit I'm going to have to listen to in the enertainment industry about cinco de mayo? Could it? I don't see how, I hope some catastrophy happens so that I may avoid such torture, oh great GUS, truck driver of the flaming heavenly host, deliver me from annoying hippies with your delightfully pollitically incorrect racial slurs, your foul odour and crass jokes about blondes!!!
 
 
Quantum
14:27 / 01.05.03
What's the origin of cinco de mayo? I've often wondered, but anyone I ask goes 'Oh, it's the fifth of May' in an irritatingly condescending manner. Usually I reply 'Cabron, tu Madre gustan mi cojones' or some other bad Spanish.
So, cinco- WTF?
 
 
The Natural Way
14:53 / 01.05.03
Most people on this thread are post-original Greenland Posse ranting posters, aren't they?

BC and RRM have been at this for aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaages, guys.

And it's excellent. Especially when they invoke WAAAAAAR-gunhead. He's the best one in their pantheon. His hat is with missiles.
 
 
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16:05 / 01.05.03
I remember being terrorfied about the year 2000, in fact throughout December 1999 I was having constant panic attacks. I can't quite say what I was worried about, just a vague fear something terrible was going to happen on that day. And, well, nothing really did.

Just like how my graduation from high school was ruined because I was worried about a rumor that two disgruntled ex-students were planning a massacre on graduation day. I spent the whole day (and the months preceding it) in a state of constant dread. Then the ceremony came and went and I thought well, looks like I worried for nothing.

I have a feeling that this'll be another one of those things.
 
  

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