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Pitching to Epic

 
  

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The Natural Way
09:38 / 30.03.03
So...I've got my ideas (MODOK aside), 25's got his ideas....

Anyone else?

Just seems like a really good excuse to actually bother writing something.

Trouble is, I don't want to say who I'm interested in revamping 'cause there's enough competition already.

This should be fun. 25's idea is fucking excellent.
 
 
Sebastian
13:01 / 30.03.03
I am awfuly curious as to what a Hellblazer Marvel-ification wold turn out to be. I mean, something neatly original.
 
 
PatrickMM
14:10 / 30.03.03
I'm probably going to put something together, more likely an original story than something based on one of their old characters, because I don't really know too much about them. Still, the chance to pull an Alan Moore on Swamp Thing, or a Grant on Animal Man, and make someone ridiculously dumb into a great character is tempting.
 
 
Tamayyurt
14:19 / 30.03.03
Oh maan, I'd love to get my hands on Dr. Strange. I'd also love to do X-Man.
 
 
Tamayyurt
14:51 / 30.03.03
Here you go, submission guidelines for Epic
 
 
The Falcon
15:09 / 30.03.03
the chance to... make someone ridiculously dumb into a great character is tempting.

But who should it be? I'm struggling. I really like Black Bolt from the Inhumans.

Ummm... my brain is blank.
 
 
Jack Denfeld
16:45 / 30.03.03
I'm down.
 
 
Jack Denfeld
16:50 / 30.03.03
* Epic submissions are not currently being accepted. Look for an upcoming follow-up announcement regarding the open submissions date. *


Anyone know if there is a specific date they plan to accept submissions?
 
 
The Natural Way
16:54 / 30.03.03
I'm prolly doing Ka-zar. There HAS to be a niche for an adventure comic. And, fuck, he's a really potent archetype. The opening splash page, with the right artist, will rock soooo hard. I'm surprised no-one's thought of it before.

Patrick: C'mon, you've got the whole internet out there to help you research a character! And they do stress that they'd prefer a re-working. Sales and all that. I don't think they're too bothered about the submissions being 100% continuity consistent.
 
 
The Photographer in Blowup
17:39 / 30.03.03
I've been looking for characters with a sort of mystical edge - apart from Doctor Strange; everyone is aiming at him - trouble is i can't find anyone better.

And there aren't that many Marvel characters that would make a suitable horror title - unless you count Man-Thing in.

Yeah, Man-Thing: he could be Marvel's Swamp Thing - now we just need a Constantine-like character to explain Man-Thing his role in the world.

I know - Damion Hellstrom - hell, this could even spin-off a new title: Hellstrom.

Having a sense of dejá vu here.

We even have a silver-haired woman: Silver Blaze.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
06:52 / 31.03.03
well, I've got my idea nice n clear.

oh man. its sooooooooo good.

so good.
 
 
sleazenation
07:31 / 31.03.03
I'm waiting for all the brother voodoo submissions to hit...
 
 
D'Israeli
08:55 / 31.03.03
Does no one fancy re-tooling Rom, Spaceknight?
 
 
The Natural Way
09:06 / 31.03.03
I love Rom and I love the idea of a truly odd space comic (c'mon, Eternity, The Celestials, Ego the Living Planet....they're all crying out for a genuine touch of the super-cosmic. They've been funny men-in-pants for too long), but, well, the void is such an alienating back-drop.... It'd take a whole heap of work to build a bridge for the reader. Tend to think that's why these books often fuck up. Gotta bring it home somehow. Will mull it over once I'm finished with Ka-zar.

I've scanned all the stuff at newsarama, but I'm still not clear on the continuity angle. Ideally, I'd like my Ka-zar stuff to exist in an offshoot of the Ultiverse.
 
 
sleazenation
09:26 / 31.03.03
Isn't ROM the space knight a licenced title?
 
 
Sax
10:25 / 31.03.03
Oh fuck, I am all over this. Hey, anyone fancy seeing a Jenny Everywhere comic from Epic?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
10:31 / 31.03.03
Dunno if you're serious, Sax, but Jenny is copyright free - can't see Marvel going for that.

I have an idea for this - something me and sleaze talked about, what, a couple of years ago now - but several of the characters who were in limbo then that I planned to use are now being used elsewhere. Will have to think.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
11:00 / 31.03.03
This is a character who's time has come round again.

I can see it now, give him a cigarette, a haircut, a fatal blood disease and a 'swearing thesaurus' and we'll be away! I'm sure I can come up with a comic more stupid and offensive than 'Codename Knockout' which I can justify on the grounds of it being 'ironic'.

Issue 1; Mahkizmo queers up Wolverine and Punisher at the same time!
 
 
Sax
11:23 / 31.03.03
Nah, Fly, not serious. Jenny's too good for Marvel.

God, it's only when you start looking into this that you realise how many stupendously shit characters Marvel have come up with over the years.
 
 
The Natural Way
11:34 / 31.03.03
Would you believe it? Fate's conspired in such a way that I don't even need the utli-offshoot stuff. It's all there in the original MU! Fab! I know this makes NOOOOO sense to anyone else....
 
 
moriarty
12:14 / 31.03.03
Sleaze is correct. ROM is a licenced character. Marvel won't touch it.
 
 
Sax
12:16 / 31.03.03
I got mine as well. Story's finished. Now all I've got to do is write it.

So... anyone sharing? Or is it closely-guarded secret time?
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
12:44 / 31.03.03
this is so exciting brothers and sisters!
 
 
Jack Fear
12:57 / 31.03.03
Exciting to watch your brothers and sisters selling out for the tall Yanqui dollar? Feh.

Keep posting, "brothers and sisters." Every name in this thread is a name for The List.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
13:08 / 31.03.03
are all americans into friendly fire or what?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
13:23 / 31.03.03
Oh come on Jack. Look, I could hardly value creator-owned stuff more... and in the pub the other day, sleaze asked me if I was going to submit a proposal/script for my Big Dream of a comic, and I told him no, no way do Marvel get to do that. It's too important, too personal, it needs to be exactly right and if that means it's online and only two people ever see it, I'd rather that than for people to have to flick through videogame ads and anti-drug warnings... But I can't see why taking this potential opportunity to get a foot in the door is a bad thing - you wouldn't have condemned Cameron Stewart for doing the Stripperella cover, would you? Same principle, arguably. It's not like there's a huge number of companies actively asking for new submissions, is it?

(Of course, there are probably some people who's dream comic job *is* writing an edgy new version of Speedball, for whom it's an end, not a means. Different strokes, I guess...)
 
 
The Natural Way
14:17 / 31.03.03
If I was checking the submissions, I'm pretty sure ANYTHING that even approached *edgy* would see the bin soooooo fast. Unless, of course, the character demanded it.

As far as I'm concerened, this is my chance totake some kind of ownership of a universe I've dug since kid-dom. I don't think it's as black and white and alienating as you suggest, Jack. But I hoom and boom less than you, so what do I know?
 
 
Jack Fear
14:36 / 31.03.03
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RUN
 
 
Tamayyurt
14:46 / 31.03.03
Well, I've got my X-Man script done (need to give it a nce over though). When can we start sending?
 
 
Sax
16:33 / 31.03.03
I'm going to send in a script about Jack Fear.
 
 
Jack Fear
16:36 / 31.03.03
Hands off, fanboy: I'm creator-owned, and I have a lawyer.
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
16:59 / 31.03.03
The only reason that I'm even mildly considering this is, as Flyboy sed, to get a foot in the door. I would hope that no one here has any delusions about creative freedom, fame 'n' riches, etc. vis-à-vis this particular creative endeavor. The Epic contract has been widely derided as a bum deal, but hey: if you can write a decent story about an established character and that story leads to bigger things elsewhere, knock yourself out. I see it as working a crappy job in yer field of choice that may give you the opportunity to one day do the job for yourself, not as an act of creative expression unto itself. It is, of course, up to each individual to decide how they want to start their respective careers in the field.
 
 
sleazenation
17:04 / 31.03.03
I really do not envy the two submissions editors who will have to read all the submissions generated but this call to wordprocessors.

But I do think this could be a fun and worthwhile excercise is approached with the right perspective. Think of this a a writing exercise along the lines of the national novel writing competition. The goal is to write a nominally self-contained 22 page story. This is an eminently achieveable goal, yet i'm willing to bet very few have actully written one yet. This call for submission offers another kick up the butt to get people writing. Its also a chance to have fun. To play with someone else's characters. You can be mischievious or inventive as you like.

And who knows, one or two writers may even enjoy themselves enough and become inspired enough to write and create comics about something other than corporate superheroes.
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
18:41 / 31.03.03
I'm currently reworking Angar the Screamer, not sure what into but gotta go with a comic called Angar...
 
 
grant
18:48 / 31.03.03
I'd love to see a Cloak & Dagger script. Mmm.
 
  

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