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Jenny Everywhere - Updates

 
  

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moriarty
04:34 / 10.04.03
Oh, and though I'm sure your questions were directed at the print edition, with the website you have the option of taking your work down at any time.
 
 
moriarty
04:53 / 10.04.03
Grrr. I had four full pages for the FAQ when my computer decided to play tricks with me. I thought it had been saving all this time.

What was saved is here. I will retype the rest tomorrow night. Once again, let's debate these and any other questions to death. Maybe we should set up a deadline for a resolution on these concerns, so that we can move on.

Thanks.
 
 
Jack Denfeld
05:02 / 10.04.03
Deadlines sound excellent.
 
 
lentil
11:03 / 10.04.03
Just a thought, regarding filling the organisational role:

I expect to have a lot more time on my hands for… well, all kinds of projects come September because I'll be starting an MA in Fine Art. The course, I should imagine from past experience, will be very flexible regarding the type of work I can do. In fact, my comics work was a big part of my application and I made it quite clear during the interview that comics would make up a big part of my practice while on the course. So, there's a good chance that I can spend time on Jenny with official endorsement. My increased availability will roughly coincide with moriarty going back to college, so if a hand-over or some extra help is needed…. well, I'm just saying I'm around.

Of course, it may not be necessary, or may be impractical. I should also point out that I have no experience in publishing, other than the very very lo-fi, extremely limited distribution for the one mini-comic I've put out. Anyway, there you go.
 
 
Optimistic
11:09 / 10.04.03
I am good and ready Nelson.

Good and ready....

So who has a script I can draw????
 
 
Tamayyurt
12:04 / 10.04.03
I've got plenty of scripts for you, Op. But I've alreadygot two in different stages of completion so it'd just be greedy to hog you. I think grant is still looking for an artist. Try PMing him. If not, let me know and I'll quickly put you to work
 
 
The Strobe
12:46 / 10.04.03
Right. I'm so doing a script by the end of the weekend. I've had an idea for a slow, thoughtful script - very little actoin per se - but hopefully lots of ideas for an artist.
 
 
grant
14:13 / 10.04.03
Well, in theory, ~BC~ is still drawing it - I just haven't heard from him lately. He's just moved apartments, so there may be a lag there. We'll see if he pops up again.
I may write another, but there are plenty of other scripts out there, I'm sure.
 
 
dlotemp
21:00 / 10.04.03
I'm all for this project and applaud Cameron's charitable challenge to the rest of us.

That said -

If we really go through with this, and intend to use the extant Jenny material, I for one would appreciate some constructive criticism of my strip. Perhaps the others would as well. I realize that my piece has a number of faults but I'd love to hear some well-considered critiques and advice to improve it before it's re-used.

why don't we use the extant Jenny discussions that are located over in the Comics forum to post critiques.
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
21:19 / 10.04.03
Can I do a script?
Scratch that.
May I do a script? I have some ideas. You see.
 
 
Persephone
22:44 / 10.04.03
Toast! Just now I have registered the domain name www.jennyeverywhere.com.

I'm off to find a webhosting service now.
 
 
FinderWolf
02:28 / 11.04.03
Question: What does this translate to on a 8 1/2 x. 11 sheet of paper? In terms of inch measurements, so that the proportion is suitable for printing?

>> Please, PLEASE keep in mind that the dimensions of your page MUST be width = 2/3 height (or height = 1 1/2 width). This is standard comic book page dimensions. The industry standard is 10 inch width x 15 height, though you can go smaller or larger, so long as you stay in the same proportions! I cannot emphasize this enough. Do not just take an 8 1/2 by 11 sheet of paper (A4?) and have the borders run right along the edge of the paper. If you screw this up, I can guarantee you will not make it into the printed version!
 
 
moriarty
04:49 / 11.04.03


The image above was drawn on an 8 1/2 by 11 piece of paper. If you have a piece of paper that you want sized, a trick to doing it is to draw a size that you know (in this case 6 by 9, or half that, 3 by 4.5) and run a line from a bottom corner through the opposite top corner. Then run up the height of the box you have just drawn until you get to a suitable dimension. In this case, I went up to 10 1/2 height. Run a perpendicular line from the chosen point to the diagonal line you did previously, and you have your new width.

A height of 10 1/2 is easy to figure out without using the above method (10 1/2 x 2/3rd width = 7) but other choices might be more difficult and result in a number not easily found on a ruler. For instance, if you wanted more room around your page, a 10 inch height gives you around 6 21/32 inches width.

Despite my absolutely obsessive tutorial, so long as you're relatively close, it will be all right. So 10 by 6 5/8 would be just fine.
 
 
Sax
06:54 / 11.04.03
Update - Kit-Cat Club has just taken delivery of my second six-page script. "The Death of Jenny Everywhere".

Ooh, I'm all excited inside.
 
 
lentil
07:55 / 11.04.03
You know, just one page ago moriarty was saying that somebody'd probably kill her off in a story one day.

I don't know, first you give her a succession of crap boyfriends and now you're going to end her life! Where's the love , I ask you?

Just as long as you don't insist on having multiple hologram foil covers and then bring her back as red and blue "energy" versions.
 
 
The Natural Way
14:51 / 11.04.03
Well that's just it. Does her "public domain" thing suggest all kinds of reality-hopping to you? Sure does to me. I think it's prolly pretty much a given that she could be offed in one reality, save the world in another, go for cous-cous coffee in a third. Jenny-MODOK - now there's a thing! If I get round to it, I'll have a go at a Jenny script (might have to wait a couple of weeks, all you artists fighting one another for a chance to runce it!). I promise that, whatever universe my Jenny finds herself in, she WON'T be a wise-cracking, smirking, cooler-than-fuck fanbitch fantasy, kay? You know who you are, you shameless khrunnnce!
 
 
sleazenation
15:10 / 11.04.03
heh i think mr runce might have had a sneak preview of an upcoming jenny strip
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
19:06 / 11.04.03
Impulsivelad! The end of school is about a month away. If you want to revise the script you sent to me, get cooking, because I will be available to draw the shit out of it veeeeery sooooon.

That is, if you still want me to...
 
 
mixmage
20:21 / 11.04.03
errr... I did a coupla stories, but realised they were crap. At the same time, my machine pulled a fruity and i've lost all my graphic soft/scanner/printer. Damn! I think I managed to send one page before the shiznit hit the twirly thing.

Even word doesn't work any more.

BUT - I reiterate my earlier offer. If anyone fancies putting up a link to a scalable or A4 sized stencil, I'll take Jenny Everywhere with me.

plus a can of chrome.

sorry for being so pants. GO SHIFTER!
 
 
The Phuz
13:25 / 13.04.03
Hi, I’m new to Barbelith. Been looking round the board for a couple of days and got hooked in by this whole ‘Jenny Everywhere’ idea. I’m really interested in doing something for it, haven’t really done any strip work for a couple of years but I want to get back into doing some and this seems like a golden opportunity. I’ve read the FAQ so I’ve got the gist of everything involved, I can go away and do whatever I want with the character then it’s up to you if you want to use it. I primarily a writer/artist, I’m not opposed to working on someone’s script but I’d really like to explore the concept myself, I’ve already got an idea for a one-pager and maybe a short story, I’ll keep working on them and let you see what emerges

You can check out my artwork at:
www.temple-apa.co.uk/johnkirkham

Cheers
JohnK
 
 
Nelson Evergreen
15:29 / 13.04.03
Fine stuff, Judge (although it takes bloody ages to download, damn it!); will be intrigued to see what you come up with.

Mixmage: I'll try and squeeze an attempt at a Jenny Stencil into this week's schedule.

In the meantime, the new strip is just a few tweaks in Photoshop away from being finished, and I've just realised that I can't draw a decent corridor to save my life. Therefore: 'Hurrah!' and 'Balls!' in equal measures.
 
 
The Phuz
17:33 / 13.04.03
Sorry about the delay in download time, Nelson. Only just finished the site off and in the rush went for aesthetics instead of performance. I’m going to go back and condense a few JPGs etc… see if I can get things running quicker.

Cheers
JohnK.
 
 
mixmage
22:37 / 13.04.03
Nelson Evergreen! yes please!

Flyboy had an envelope with him... words fail me.
 
 
grant
13:55 / 14.04.03
She now has a space in the Barbelith wiki:

WhoIsJennyEverywhere?
 
 
Tamayyurt
14:08 / 14.04.03
I want more Jenny! Is anyone else near completing a story?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:30 / 15.04.03
Lookee here...
 
 
Tamayyurt
12:35 / 15.04.03
Ah, that hit the spot.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
18:17 / 15.04.03
Verreee nice. You two are far too good at this comics lark. I love Bradley in the first few pages - the look on his face in the coffee shop is priceless...

Is that Jez Cock the same one from 'Name's Not Down'?

'... all over my pants. Shit.'
 
 
gingerbop
22:11 / 15.04.03
In Flyboys strip thing on this, Jenny (or i think its her), in the very bottom, looks sscaarrriiilly like i did a couple months ago, with short spiky hair and an elf-face. I think i am her less interesting alter-ego.
 
 
mixmage
01:14 / 16.04.03
no joke... as I mentioned at the JC - I was going out with the girl for ten years.

Never even knew. Damn that Shifter is good!
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
12:43 / 16.04.03
KCC: Jez is unrelated to Nathan, except in spirit. They are two different genus of the same species - or should that be the other way round?

gingerbop - I think you mean Clea.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:44 / 16.04.03
Hey there. Love the developing Trailer (in separate thread) -- "EVERYWHERE. 2003." totally rocks my world!! Just wanted to mention that I'll be illustrating yet another Jenny short story, this one written by the illustrtious Impulsivelad. It should be maybe 9 or 10 pages - I've taken down MC's size specifications for possible future publishing in the paperback

Someone mentioned a deadline for stories -- has there been one suggested? Cause I'm just at the sketching/layout/percolating ideas stage at this point, but I'd like it to be included so maybe I'd hustle to meet the deadline.
 
 
moriarty
19:23 / 18.04.03
Because you demanded it...

The Jenny Everywhere Tentative Schedule

May 1st - August 31st

All participants with a work in progress get a minimum of one story finished. Rough cut of animated trailer finished.

August 31st

Rough form of jennyeverywhere.com is finished. Includes FAQ and message board.

September 1st - December 31st

A second story is completed by all willing participants. Minimum one story, though if you get two done during the summer you can take a break (specifically directed at students). The stories from 2003 will be the ones from which the anthology will be composed.

November 30th

Sneak preview of site with advance promotion including emails, animated trailer, etc.

December 31st - April 30th

jennyeverywhere.com officially goes online. One story is showcased a month, with creator bios and links to individual sites. Participants with stories going into the anthology have a chance to tweak their contributions into finished form. Promotion of upcoming print publication begins, including an exclusive story being sent to retailers, comic creators and the comic press.

May 1st - August 31st

The Jenny Everywhere anthology is published, accompanied by parties and convention appearances.

So, how does that sound? I know I will be insanely busy during the school year, especially in the first four months of 2004. I am hoping that I will have all the promotional stuff ready to be sent out long before then.

It dawns on me that every year my school puts out a collection of the best artwork from the animation department, and that the format is similar to what we're looking at. I can probably find out what goes into it and use the same people if their price is reasonable. I've also been in contact with a comic collective in Montreal, members of which have been involved in similar anthologies. I am setting aside the entire month of May to get the printing and shipping done. I'm not sure how we're going to work the distribution exactly, but I'll find out this summer.

I don't know about anyone else, but I will be travelling around to local stores trying to sell them on the idea of carrying the book. If anyone else is interested in doing this, I have no doubt that all participants will be getting a few promo copies to give to family and friends which they can also use to show around. If you want more copies on top of that, I'm sure it will get done. Heck, we'll give them to libraries.

In early 2004, when we know our exact schedule, I was thinking we can take a page out of Martin Wagner's book and set up a fund for people to pre-order books directly from us. This could help cover some of the costs of printing. Maybe we could offer sketches, exclusive min-comics, buttons, t-shirts, etc. for those who sign up early.

Hm. I think that's about it. If anyone objects to any of the above, let's sort it out.

Thanks for the interest and enthusiasm, everyone. I've received emails from people not associated with Barbelith, and seen a few tidbits leaked out through blogs and other message boards. If we make this a regular thing this first book will probably be the only one that is Barbelith-exclusive.
 
 
Persephone
00:26 / 19.04.03
Well as for the website, I can get a rough site up pretty soon.

The only part I'm not sure of is the message board. I'm thinking that there's not going to be money to buy BB software; so we'd have to find something free, but you wouldn't want it to have a million pop-ups or anything annoying like that. And then someone would have to maintain the message board, which I'm not sure that I'm technically competent to do.

Really, I was thinking as a temporary thing that the website would have links to Barbe-threads; so the website would sort of be a Jenny-specific skin on Barbelith. That could easily be done before August 31st. I'm not sure I could get a whole independent message board up and running in the same amount of time.
 
 
Tamayyurt
15:51 / 19.04.03
I got a slight chill when I read the schedule. You know, the convention thing is probably going to be the easiest cause Barbelith is a lot like the Mafia in that we have people everywhere.
 
  

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