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New X-Men - Will Someone Actually Die?

 
  

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Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
15:20 / 06.12.02
"With his Weapon X retcon already being ignored by the "Weapon X" book.."

While I think Tieri is a hack, I think that makes sense, actually. The current Weapon X book is about a new orginization started by the last survivor of the Weapon X staff... a bloody security guard. I imagine Joe the security schlob thought it was Weapon Ecks like everyone else.

I've got to echo Cameron's comments on the homoginization of Wolverine. I just watched the X-Men trailer and damn if Quietly's Wolverine isn't perfect for Jackman Wolverine.

And damn me for a fanboi but that trailer is soo cool.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
15:26 / 06.12.02
Well, it doesn't make sense because not only does Quitely's Logan look like Jackman, it also looks like the Logan who has been in the comics since the 70s. This is bullshit - getting rid of the trademark hair and adding a goatee makes him look like a dodgy image Wolverine knockoff rather than the real deal. Big mistake, and it won't last.
 
 
kid coagulant
16:31 / 06.12.02
I read somewhere that they were going to digitally insert a goatee onto Jackman for the next movie...
 
 
some guy
16:58 / 06.12.02
Lady Deathstrike wasn't ever part of Weapon X. Her father designed the adamantium bonding process that Weapon X then stole (as a side note, it was used on the Daredevil villan Bullseye as well). She went off to kill the people who had "stolen her father's legacy".

I'm so glad I never knew that.

Well, it doesn't make sense because not only does Quitely's Logan look like Jackman, it also looks like the Logan who has been in the comics since the 70s. This is bullshit - getting rid of the trademark hair and adding a goatee makes him look like a dodgy image Wolverine knockoff rather than the real deal. Big mistake, and it won't last.

Hmm. I seem to remember getting knocked for suggesting that things in comics never last.

The thing about Nu Logan isn't even that he looks so stupid - it's that it's not true to the character. Logan is the opposite of trendy, and for good reason, too. He's a fucking geriatric! He should be played like Eastwood in Space Cowboys or something.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
17:58 / 06.12.02
We're presuming that this is meant to be the same Wolverine that we already know...
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
21:05 / 06.12.02
"I'm so glad I never knew that."

Trust me, I held details back. And it's a burden I must bear every day!

And I'm with you on the Wolverine as old fucker as opposed to trendy hipster.
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
21:12 / 06.12.02
Every panel featuring Wolverine should now feature people snickering behind his back and him sneering nervously about, knowing that they're snickering at him until he finally decides to give it up and shave the damn thing off already...
 
 
some guy
23:03 / 06.12.02
...nevermind that Logan's hair has been shown to grow back nearly instantly. So he obviously doesn't grow hair there anyway. Maybe it's a chin rug?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
23:19 / 06.12.02
Right, and if Wolverine did have a lot of facial hair, logically he'd probably have a big fuck-off beard that he'd be trimming with his claws every five minutes.

Ah, blame it on "unstable molecules"...
 
 
The Falcon
01:06 / 07.12.02
Two things - 1) This whole Wolverine change of look has caused some consternation among the fanboys, on their fanboy sites, which I now moderate at. Thus I am a proper fanboy (read, if you so desire, from Alex' post down.) P.S. I'm the chump with the Quimper avatar.

2) Here's what Chuck 'hack?' Austen had to say about Magneto's 'return' at X-Fan: I will never bring back Magneto, no matter what happens with my sales. I like the idea that dead is dead, from a creative and storytelling standpoint. But from a marketing standpoint, Marvel's lost a big draw. You should see the faces of people at conventions when you tell them Magneto ain't coming back. They're crushed. Jill can tell you the reaction at Toronto when that gentlemen heard Magneto was dead. People love a good villain.

But look, I agree with Grant in keeping Magneto dead for creative reasons. Not because I think Magneto should stay dead forever, but because Magneto was overused constantly for many years, and that's the main reason he's staying dead. To force people to CREATE, and stop REHASHING. People with a lack of imagination kept bringing him back and destroying the specialness of his power and character. I love the new stuff Grant's created much more (Fantomex is brilliant!), and some of the other things that have appeared in other people's books because they haven't had Magneto and Sinister and the Brotherhood to fall back on every other month.


It's funny how comic messageboards mirror one another.
 
 
Persephone
02:10 / 07.12.02
*gloomily*

Maybe they'll CGI a goatee on him in the movie.

Grrgh. I have to get off this fucking computer...
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
11:51 / 07.12.02
All right, so is Magneto coming back in Austen's book, or not? Austen seems to be swearing up and down that he's not, and everyone's telling Morrison that he is. What's going on here?
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
16:49 / 07.12.02
My money is not.

If Magneto is to come back in the near future, i.e. while Austen and Morrison are still on the books, he'll come back in X-Treme X-Men. Claremeont has done nothing but bitch since Morrison offed Mags.

Personally I'm. surprised the Ultimate Mags didn't come back sometime closer to May's movie release.
 
 
some guy
17:08 / 07.12.02
If Magneto is to come back in the near future, i.e. while Austen and Morrison are still on the books, he'll come back in X-Treme X-Men. Claremont has done nothing but bitch since Morrison offed Mags.

Claremont was the only writer to ever "get" Magneto...
 
 
Graeme McMillan
02:24 / 08.12.02
Of course, Grant's kind of told everyone which cast member is dying over on the Crack!Comicks site... Not that it's an actual X-Man or anything...
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
02:53 / 08.12.02
True, Smile. But I hope that ze isn't the only casualty. It will be interesting to see what happens when or if ze bites it.
 
 
bio k9
03:02 / 08.12.02
I LOVE TO BE FISTED!

FIST ME!

please?
 
 
The Falcon
04:48 / 08.12.02
Oh. (name deleted).

Do you think they qualify as 'beloved'? I don't.

Perhaps.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
14:21 / 08.12.02
Perhaps it might be an idea to edit that message so that anyone who didn't want to know and maintain the element of surprise could still do so.
 
 
Seth
16:02 / 08.12.02
While you're at it, removing the dumb irritability would be useful too. If you have a problem with the pronoun, take it to the relevant thread.
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
17:04 / 08.12.02
I put in a mod request to have the spoiler removed. Let's try not to do that again w/o some warning, thanks.
 
 
The Falcon
18:26 / 08.12.02
Apologies. I was drunk when I wrote that.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
18:55 / 08.12.02
Is that Claremont in that picture? If you pull the tag in his neck does he recite some of his choicest dialogue like Action Man?

"His name is Wolverine, he's the best there is at what he does!"
 
 
The Falcon
19:27 / 08.12.02
All troubles aside, I see that it's been moderated, and 'The Crack' does only hint at an event that may or may not take place - a spoiler that does not generally constitute. But fair enough.

I've also asked for the 'dumb irritability' to be excised, so we can all return to the regular discussion, hopefully with any bad taste removed from respective mouths.
 
  

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