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New X-Men #136

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Matthew Fluxington

15:44 / 21.10.02

NEW X-MEN #136
Cover by Frank Quitely
Grant Morrison (w)/Frank Quitely (p)
"Riot At Xavier's" rages on! What happens when the students take over the school? The eternal showdown of youth vs. experience explodes at Xavier's Institute! Who lives? Who dies? Who betrays whom? Find out in the story that will rock the X-Men once again!
32 pgs. with ads/FC/Marvel PG......$2.25

Nice cover. Shame about Logan's new goatee, though.

Matthew Fluxington

15:47 / 21.10.02

Joe Quesada on why Logan looks that way:

On the issue of Wolverine having various costume designs across the range of X-Men titles, Quesada replied that they will be combining the various designs into a single one to appease licensees.

"Here's the real world answer to this. We do a lot of licensing with Wolverine. Many licensees pay a lot of money to use Wolverine on their products. The problem was that we had a Frank Quitely-designed Wolverine look, an Ultimate Wolverine look and an X-Men: Evolution Wolverine look and the classic yellow and blue. This does not make licensees happy. It's okay to have different costumes for characters but when it comes to your commercial icons like Spider-Man, Wolverine and Hulk, you need consistency. So working with the animators and {Ultimate X-Men artist} Adam Kubert, we came up with a look that was similar across all fields. The only variant will be the Wolverine solo book in which he'll be mostly in plain clothes, but if he ever puts on a costume it will have to be the new design."

18:25 / 21.10.02

On the one hand, I understand that Joe's hands are tied here.

On the other hand, I hate it when the tail wags the dog. Of course, from a money perspective *licensing* is the dog. Makes me sad.

18:33 / 21.10.02

Look, there's an Omega symbol above the X!

Mmmm.

18:37 / 21.10.02

Wouldn't it have made more sense to just make everyone use the classic Logan look, especially with the new film using it?

Our Lady of The Two Towers

18:40 / 21.10.02

But... But Joe, why are you 'going' for a consistant look that is completely different to how Wolverine has looked for the last 20-odd years? Licensing concerns forced DC to change Superman back from Sparky the wonderboy to the red, white and blue, the movie Wolverine had the sideys and no beard and if you want to get really sad-fan about it, Wolverine's healing factor itself restores Wolverine's sideys. Why not choose a 'consistent look' that actually matches what has gone before?

I don't actually care that much (no, really!) but his argument doesn't make sense.

Then I re-read what Flux has posted and realised that Joe is talking about Wolverine's costume, not his facial fur. Damn. So that's a complete mystery.

19:43 / 21.10.02

For a guy that doesn't care much about changing his underwear its pretty ridiculous to think he would care to grow that idiotic beard chin.

And who the fuck's idea was it to draw Logan with that? Was it Millar or Kubert??

Imaginary Mongoose Solutions

20:31 / 21.10.02

The apparently younger and less-experienced Ultimate Wolverine in Ultimate X-Men has the Ultimate Chin Hair.

Ultimate Kevin

Matthew Fluxington

21:25 / 21.10.02

It was Adam "No Talent" Kubert's idea to add the goatee.

01:01 / 22.10.02

Of all the movie-transmigrations I have beared, Wolverine's continues to be the one I will regret most. Anybody remembers Silvestri's neanderthalesque Wolvie? And I tie this shit about the chin bear because Ultimate X-Men (and I better say here I almost vomitted while reading the first two issues) was for me sort of a movie-bollock-ification of a comic book gotten into film and then trans-spirited back into comic book, hell, what a crap, an I can't still get outta my mind the beard chin and the cat on Chuck's lap. And now, worse, we have to witness the progressive and totalitarian "ultimisation" of the regular title.

I wonder what Morrison and Quitely have to say about it. Cripes, I'm already nostalgic for the dashing action of their first story arc, extinction agenda.

Superlove Ninja

02:33 / 22.10.02

Dang those crazy Omega Chi fratboys and their graffiti sprees.

06:02 / 22.10.02

God, I really can't properly express my disappointment in what seems to be Wolverine's new look. I've only seen two Quitely cover images of it, but he looks like a 28-year-old professional wrestler trying to look cool to a teenager.

Quitely's Wolverine-As-Feral-Gym-Teacher look was priceless. I echo the statement that I'm growing nostalgic for 'E Is For Extinction'. That excitement, momentum, was terrific as hell, and I'm missing it.

The Natural Way

07:26 / 22.10.02

Oh, fucking shut up about it, it's just a little flap of hair.

So...Kid Omega? Quire's mutant name, or is he someone else? I want him to be Quire - Quire rocks.

Omega 'n' Crossbones.....mmmm....skilliant.

11:06 / 22.10.02

Oh, fucking shut up about it, it's just a little flap of hair.

Considering the importance Grant places on style in this book and others, it's not such a small deal. And in an illustrated medium, design details do matter. This new Logan is young, clean and hip. Not exactly the character who attracted legions of readers, then.

I don't think it's crossbones but an X ... the end of X?

13:36 / 22.10.02

Remember 'Rock of Ages' in JLA. And Darkseid's 'Omega' symbology (is that a word?)

Where's Omega Red? I really can't think of anything else to say, as there's only a cover, and I don't want to discuss Logan/ James/ Wolverine's facial hair-stylings.

The Natural Way

13:40 / 22.10.02

Yes, Loz, I understand that it's an X. It's also, from the right angle, a skull and crossbones. Jeez....

But, yr right, if peeps want to make a fuss out of the goatee, then go ahead - I was wrong; I recognise that it's all part of the fun.

13:54 / 22.10.02

It's also, from the right angle, a skull and crossbones.

Yeah, I see that ... I like that it works on several layers.. I love Frank Quitely.

23:39 / 22.10.02

Aiiieeee! Xorn has no legs!

00:31 / 23.10.02

Sorry to take this back to the Wolverine thing, but my first reaction was "who is this mysterious new member of the x-men?" I figured it must've been one of those mutants from the satellite offices. Wrong. Instead, Logan's healing factor has undergone that 2nd mutation we've been hearing about and is quickly reverting him to infancy. Can prof. x (soon to be returned to the wheelchair for licensing reasons) stop this? Find out in R is for Ridiculous.

04:12 / 23.10.02

Maybe now that Wolverine looks like a member of a "hip" band like Linkin Park they'll change the name of the book to Nu-X-Men?

09:49 / 23.10.02

All discussions about Wolverine's facial fuzz aside, I can't be the only one to have noticed that (as this another group shot) Scott is standing behind Emma, while Logan is standing behind Jean. That dynamic must be deliberate...

Matthew Fluxington

11:35 / 23.10.02

Yeah, and if you look closely, you can notice that there's a good chance that Charles' hands are on Jean and Emma's asses. And that Charles resembles Grant more than usual in that picture. And that Frank has finally got a hand on drawing Jean's face, but is still drawing Emma with vaguely Asian features. And that Xorn's feet can be seen behind Jean and Charles' legs.

11:49 / 23.10.02

And that Kid Omega's dribbly sigil neatly encapsulates Emma's genitals...

11:50 / 23.10.02

And Emma looks awfully in her teens, and Beast has a disneylandish touch that sends chills through my spine -I always feared his oh-so-cool "secondary mutation" would eventually lead to this. Anybody remember the dreaded animated film-song?

What I don't get is that if, as Grant said, the un-cool was going to be the real-cool, then this book still falls in its own decade-long death traps. While we start to see more of the un-cool-pretendedly-now-cool geeks at the mutant-school more prominently in the book, the starring chast is decidedly progressing to the hyper-hollywood-millenium-cool-mutant-look. But in any case, Morrison and Quitely are not the owners of the book.

And why is always Wolverine with claws popped in covers?? I can imagine: "Okay guys! Smile!", "Cheeeese", "Snikt!".

12:08 / 23.10.02

I hope you're all this chatty when the actual issue comes out, and you've, y'know, read it, and that.

Jesus.

The Natural Way

12:09 / 23.10.02

That last thing was funny, Seb, but not as funny as Flux's "hands on arses" quip! Aaah, the jolly japes....

15:53 / 23.10.02

I hope you're all this chatty when the actual issue comes out, and you've, y'know, read it, and that.

That's what previews are for Duncan, purposeless, irritating, ongoing fan and non-fan chatting.

but not as funny as Flux's "hands on arses" quip! Aaah, the jolly japes....

Hot.

Anybody read the Punisher dot comic? It cracked my lungs out of laughter the other night. Especially dedicated to the canuckle head fans.

01:01 / 25.10.02

I know, Sebastian, but - my god - it's one picture; that's not even the cover to #135, which has its' preview up at dotcomics. This sort of behaviour (ridiculous speculation) is very similar - no, identical to that at other comics sites, that you're all far too cool/wise to go to.

On the other hand, The Punisher is funny as fuck. Ennis did this before with Spidey - abuse of a guest star, but he's hit every notewith this wilful parody of Wolverine. I'm smirking just thinking about the bit with the shotgun, and the 'grow a new ass' superpower quote. Well worth throwing your money away on - you might as well enjoy it.

Just for the record, I think Marvel are performing wonderfully just now: aside from the aforementioned, there's also X-Statix, Daredevil, Alias, and (I just now I'm going to get crucified for this, but fuck all y'all) Fantastic Four. A few others are pretty good, too, but I can't afford 'em (Amazing Spider-Man being the most notable example, and I can't stand Babylon 5.)

01:21 / 25.10.02

"Okay guys! Smile!", "Cheeeese", "Snikt!".

LOL!

The Natural Way

08:22 / 25.10.02

Me too.

11:45 / 25.10.02

This sort of behaviour (ridiculous speculation) is very similar - no, identical to that at other comics sites, that you're all far too cool/wise to go to.

UR DAMN RIGHT DUNCAN!

OUCH! For Christ's sake Jam-, sorry, Logan, can you please put that things back and just say "Cheese" like everyone else?

Sorry Red, but cheese is for sissys.

Click

23:48 / 25.10.02

In this case I think Logan's claws are out so someone who doesn't recognize the silly get up can still buy the comic, rest assured that he's in it.

Also, does Scott look like John Tesh in that picture or what?

Matthew Fluxington

01:00 / 15.01.03

I'm bumping this up so there's no confusion tomorrow, but I've got to say - I've not been this excited to read a new comic in quite a while. The last time I felt this kind of anticipation was before #126 came out...

21:19 / 15.01.03

Just read it on my lunch break . . .

. . . wow . . .

Spoilers Later I figure.

Yotsuba & Benjamin!

23:39 / 15.01.03

So. No-Girl or No No-Girl?

I flarking LOVED this issue. TITE inks for the Quite-Man and lovely Special class interaction, high class sport fucking of the mind, Xorn: Goodbye Mr. Chips. I can't believe this is only Chapter Two. Wow. There just aren't any other comics being made like this. The Ultimates, for example, action packed, like, really well done, but NXM is in another class. Inexplicable right now. Thoughts must be gathered.

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