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American Sniper Leaves Tarot Card

 
  

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Vadrice
21:10 / 22.10.02
Okay. First of all, I am under the assumption that the sniper is working with three other people who are covering his ass. Yes, I also think it is a him, and it is also just a gender bias.

I think the sniper (hereafter refered to as he) is going for Revalations imagery. I think he is looking to communicate with the police because the media isn't paying attention to the intended metaphor.

I believe the intended metaphor is The first Horseman of the Apocalypse of Revelations fame- DEATH, who rides in on a pale horse. I believe he doesn't have any grasp of reception theory, and thus is simply AMAZED that no one is picking up on the pale horse- white van metaphor, coupled with the clue that was too cliched to be picked up as anything but juvanile wanker imagry. Not that New Testamate End of the world jive is much better, but...

I'm not going to profile the other three, because I believe they haven't gone active accept as support for our sniper, and would thus be wildly speculative- and that's somethign I might try tomorrow night, but this is all just cognative analysis. I haven't attempted any divinations here (speaking of which, I'd be curious to see what a rider-waite deck would have to say about this jerkoff).

But anyway, I hope he is caught before any of his mates go active.


Or I hope I'm wrong, and he's working alone and is just ham handed as far as his metaphors.

But there you go.

Give me sigils, please.
 
 
Papess
22:35 / 22.10.02
Vadrice,

In a pinch, you can always use Transducer

The visualization is explained in this thread

Ze ingests evil and negativity and expels light and positivity, alot like some buddhas do, like Vajrasattva in union with consort. I will most definately join you if you choose to use this, out of necessity or otherwise.
 
 
Mr Tricks
23:04 / 22.10.02
Just In:
Victim #13 seems to have just been found... along with a note that says something to the effect...
I will not stop, your children are not safe...
 
 
Seth
00:23 / 23.10.02
I was kinda under the impression that a lot of crime scene details that are given to the press are faked by the police in these kinda situations, in order to provide a filter for all the false/well meaning/alarmist/sicko reports that are bound to be coming in from the public. Is it possible that some of the reportage is deliberate misinformation, and if so what could be the agenda involved in distributing erroneous information of this type? I don't know enough about criminal investigation either way, but I thought it might open more areas for discussion.
 
 
Vadrice
01:57 / 23.10.02
Yeah. You're so right, may. I deffinatly need to drop the mango. I should have thought of that immediatly.
I WAS planning on getting gek in on this one though.

Come to think of it... what if Dabh were involved? As the connection and synapse between any and all Barbeloid elements interested/effecting this sniper? I think that would be... delightful.

for all the ills this sniper is causing, at least I'm thinking to meet up with some old friends.

mmm...
 
 
Vadrice
02:01 / 23.10.02
speaking of which, does anyone still have dabh's sigil?
 
 
Bear
08:12 / 23.10.02
This was posted on another list from another list, so it looks like others are working on this too -

"Make a Poppet of the Sniper (pototo poppets work) -
Make him an outfit from a zerox copy of the Death
Tarot Card and make a noose around his neck. Surround
by Crow Feathers, jailhouse dirt and yellow candles.
The crow is the power energy for the law and the
yellow candles make him visible to the law.
Place the poppet, mirror and crow feathers on top of
the mirror.

Chant-You are not a God. You are just weak man on the
loose. Your nerves are fraying - The noose is tight.
Your luck is bad. You are hexed. Eyes see you. You
cannot hide. The Fates are decided in Hecate's Name,
your sorry ass is caught.

So Mote it be

Bury the poppet in a desolate place and walk away it."


And of course when this guy is shot everyone can claim that they were the one that stopped him.

Still reckon killing is the best bet, or at least breaking a leg - his killing spree doesn't seem to be harming his "Karma" much. Sorry headache.
 
 
Bear
09:38 / 23.10.02
I'd like to apoligise about the whole killing thing, I'm not some sort of maniac I was trying to make a point about Karma (badly) I should have kept my nose out.

Like mentioned by Haus on the Gek thread I would be more happy helping the police to find this guy.

I can't even kill a spider - I should have stayed in bed today.
 
 
cusm
14:56 / 23.10.02
I get the impression with the last message that his goal is more overall to make people feel unsafe. This is terrorism, plain and simple. I loathe the thought that he could be a CIA plant to encourage domestic defense spending and projects like camera instalations, but it does come to mind.

I'd just like to warn folks from overanalyzing this. Chances are the sniper's patterns and leavings are mroe coincidental or of a superficial nature. I mean, "I am God" written on the death card is pretty freaking superficial. Of course, that's all he needs to get the point across. He doesn't have to be clever, just a simple message will carry a lot of weight with something like this.

So with that in mind, I suspect the patterns we are seeing are valid magickly, but were not intended by the sniper. They are a result of his actions, or rather are patterns he is following unconsciously (or both, as that sort of thing works) rather than a part of his devious plan. This means that they are valid foci we can use as magickians against him and to predict his movements. We are the smart ones, not him. He thinks he's moving randomly, but a chaos magickian can see patterns in his movements he can not. That has got to be an advantage for us.

If the events of the past couple of years have taught me anything, its that big events that get everyone's attention leave obvious magickal trails, 911 (and its aniversary) being shining examples. I don't think this one is any different.

So an an example, the white van / pale horse bit. I'll bet he didn't intend that, but as we've made that connection, we have a greater understanding of the forces moving behind him. So with that in mind, anyone know how to stuff an angel of death back into its seal? I think this sort of thing is the level at which we can work on him.
 
 
Baz Auckland
16:23 / 23.10.02
Expressionless wrote: I was kinda under the impression that a lot of crime scene details that are given to the press are faked by the police in these kinda situations, in order to provide a filter for all the false/well meaning/alarmist/sicko reports that are bound to be coming in from the public. Is it possible that some of the reportage is deliberate misinformation, and if so what could be the agenda involved in distributing erroneous information of this type?


I was wondering about that today as all the papers were screaming "Your children aren't safe...". How can they tell the sniper left the tarot card/wrote this note/phoned them yesterday? Didnt Scotland Yard or whoever it was back in 1888 get thousands of 'ripper' letters?

From the Onion: "How are Americans responding to the threat of random shootings? ...Searching for any possible connection between Langley,VA and crack-shot assassins who operate in complete secrecy."
 
 
Papess
16:50 / 23.10.02
Sniper Tarot Reading

The Sniper(s)

1. 4 of Swords- Truce:
past or root of question: Obviously this card has a lot to do with conflict. The point in conflict being much like a stalemate or compromised solution. Literally, a no-win situation. Also represented here is incarceration or time out from regular daily life. Combined with the next card, The Hermit, it seems to suggest that the sniper is in fact, an ex-con or did happen to take some self-imposed hiatus.

2. The Hermit - #09:
the present: Judging by the position of this card, I would have to say the fucker has some kind of anti-social tendencies,. (go figure) and self-imposed, narcissistic world-view where he is supreme to mere mortals. Clearly his calling cards are proof of this. He (thinks he) IS the chosen one. This may have very well come for a “divine” experience, a drug related one or mental illness. I believe during his hiatus (perhaps a mental institution or jail time) he had to himself, he did read some Crowley, Urban Primitive maybe even the Bible or something esoteric-ish. This may have lead to the next card.

3. The Magus - #1:
immediate future: The measures the sniper is taking are born out of necessity (to himself). He has realized it is time for action, to solve the inherent problems of existence. He probably thinks what he is doing is appropriate and the responsibility is his alone to correct the problems he perceives. He has a plan, regardless of the seeming randomness of the shootings themselves. He actually believes in some twisted way that what he is doing is for the greater good. He will declare that we are all condemned and that only he can save us.

4. The Fool - #0:
heart of the matter: The sniper has a child-like mind that is easily bent or brainwashed. He has gone into the situation unquestioningly, just accepting this is his duty.

5. Ace of Cups:
unconscious influences:

6. Prince of Cups:
conscious desire(s):

7. Prince of Wands:
outcome/resolution:


The Investigation/General Public/

1. The Tower - #16:

2. The Star - #17:

3. The Lovers - #6:

4. 7 of wands - Valour

5. The Grail - #22 (I keep a second Magus card for my Grail Card):

6. The Universe - #21:

7. 5 of Swords - Defeat
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Sorry I did not finish my analysis, but I probably the rest of you can figure it out. and I wanted to get this in for your review before, well, the investigation is over! heh!

I really think this is more than one person here. Tell me, how else in these times of surviellence, would a vehicle with a rifle shooting out of it, go unnoticed? I suspect also, this is why the van was left at one scene.
 
 
Mr Tricks
19:28 / 23.10.02
appariently He's demanding a large sum of money & wants to establish an 800 number... bad humor> Maybe he should work on a 900 number?...

more on the topic of Bad Humor or scary fundimentalism...
 
 
Papess
14:29 / 24.10.02
Seems the reading seems to jibe with the current suspects

From the article:
She said Muhammad converted to Islam after divorcing her 17 years ago, about the time he joined the Army.
“After he changed his religion, he called and told me what not to feed my child,” she said. “I told him as long as he (their son) lived with me, it was up to me.”
 
 
Vadrice
16:09 / 24.10.02
I have a word from a souther maryland police officer that they're certain about these boys.

That coupled with your reading, May, makes me pretty certain this is done and through with.

My energetic custodial work yesterday went well, so I think there's nothing more to do right now other than give our thanks.
I think a magic flying mango and a certain busy cookie gek may be in order for some serious accolades.

I'm glad I have today off. I think today may well be a day to celebrate.
 
 
Vadrice
16:13 / 24.10.02
In fact, everyone on this thread deserves accolades. And the police. And the people who called... and the people who died memorium... and the people who lived blessing...
mmm.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
17:24 / 24.10.02
...and this, from the Grauniad:

Guardian Unlimited | Special reports | Sniper police arrest two men
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
22:51 / 24.10.02
Can I say, regardless of whether this is over or not (and I'm sure we all hope to our respective gods, servitors, totems and other sources of spiritual support and/or inspiration), that this thread has thrown up sone very interesting thoughts.

For example, May's acute and interesting tarot reading. The tarot, in my experience of it, has many uses, but one of them is to identify systems and patterns, working through the subconscious, a form of collective unconscious or through magickal agency (which may or may not include or be contained within either or both of the aforementioned). Like the I Chind, runes, extascopy, oneiromancy and a diverse assembly of other divinations (and what is divining but the search for what flows beneath the surface?).

So, we find ourselves in a situation where magickal means, often supposed by our more rationalist brethren to be unreasonable or nonsensical, are being used to generate patterns and systems around actions in the "normal" world (assuming that, however occult the sniper's/snipers' motives, the impact of bullet on flesh is a process of chemistry, physics and biology, nice "accepted" sciences all) which seem conversely to defy any comprehensible analysis in terms of how "normal people" function.

Which strikes me as a fasinating inversion, and a worthwhile criticism in itself, of the "rational", exclusionary process...
 
 
Vadrice
23:27 / 24.10.02
And here I figured we'd just throw a party to celebrate.

Leave it to you, Haus, to make me THINK.

~pours the champagne on an atrophied brain~









jerk.
 
 
ciarconn
00:04 / 25.10.02
And then again, he was caught by chance, by a coincidence.
 
 
The Tower Always Falls
01:22 / 25.10.02
And then again, he was caught by chance, by a coincidence.

ah yes... our old friend COINCIDENCE... heh.

The neat thing is I worked my second sigil attempt yesterday (after doing some serious retooling) and two hours later my sig other informed me that they were looking (or had captured... I was still out of it) for someone specific. Let's hear it for coincidences... kudos to all here, even it was just navel gazing.

Interesting thoughts as well Haus. I may respond more when my brain is less the consistency of melted wax.
 
 
cusm
01:24 / 25.10.02
One ceases to believe in coincidence the more one works with magick. There are only syncronicities...
 
 
Vadrice
02:13 / 25.10.02
syncronicities posh. There are only POSSIBILITIES. yum.
(rotrotrot)
 
 
Vadrice
02:23 / 25.10.02
mmm... celebratory headrot. mmm.

headrot moves in circles
drunk to unconscious
hungover to
sober
and headrot
leads me to post in the wrong
forum...
or just threadrot.
 
 
Jack Denfeld
02:29 / 25.10.02
Well done Magik squad.
 
 
gravitybitch
04:08 / 25.10.02
short form of the summary by Haus of the magickal working here : So, we find ourselves in a situation where magickal means ... are being used to generate patterns and systems around actions in the "normal" world ... which seem conversely to defy any comprehensible analysis in terms of how "normal people" function.

Which strikes me as a fasinating inversion, and a worthwhile criticism in itself, of the "rational", exclusionary process...


Yup. Most of us are here and practicing magick because the rational processes of the "normal" world are lacking something. I'm kind of curious about what you find fascinating - I've completely lost the perspective of the "normal" world (or am so used to the accomodations I make in moving between the world in which things are fluid, malleable, and enchanted, and the world in which I earn my keep as a scientist).

Care to start a new thread?
 
 
Wrecks City-Zen
20:50 / 25.10.02
>>>Synchronicity Log<<<

Anyone else notice that there were 13 shootings?

And, the Death trump is...(spooky music) 13?

By adapting a symbol, the 2 Johns (whole nother thread there...) fell victim to self fulfilling prophecy...perhaps?
 
 
Vadrice
23:14 / 25.10.02
Damn good point Rex.

In fact, the more I think about it, the more I realize that the sniper and his boy never really even had a chance.
(aside from the fact that it was a worthless, pointless, wasteful gesture in the first place)
 
 
01
18:00 / 26.10.02
It would be interesting to see a list of the different magickal techniques everyone used in regards to this thread over the last two weeks.

So. Did you employ magick to help put the kibbosh on the sniper?
If so, what method did you use?
 
 
penitentvandal
21:13 / 26.10.02
'I was wraaaaaauuuung!' - Hank McCoy.

Or that's how it looks, anyway. I'm still not 100% on why a Muslim would leave a card claiming to actually be God, but then again maybe that was the guy's kid. Who knows?

I did do a ritual to get the sniper as it happens, but I did no more or less than anyone else here. The truth is we'll never know whose mighty magick secured the synchronicity, but we all threw a lot in and we got the job done. Gods, we're great...

Even if some of us are pretty useless at the old profiling thing...I reckon next time we play hunt the psycho I'll follow May's example and stick to the cards, rather than dabbling with all this psychological newfangledness.
 
 
penitentvandal
21:15 / 26.10.02
'And I double-poooooooosted!' - velvetvandalv2.0

Sorry. Crappy freeserve connection. Will try to stop it happening again.
 
 
Nietzsch E. Coyote
06:01 / 27.10.02
I tried my map binding but it back fired in the exact way I predicted. eep.
 
 
Wrecks City-Zen
22:05 / 27.10.02
RExxx uses numbers, the substance of his universe, in order to recieve information/signals from "The World". Not quite numerology...(new catch phrase alert!)...but synchronumerics if you can vibe with that.

If you want more details, let me know.
 
 
Vadrice
22:10 / 27.10.02
I tried to clean up after the energies they were leaving behind, but as to actual offense I (perhaps a little hastily) just asked every servitor I knew who had some way of helping to do the right thing.

And I made one extra, just for good measure. Actually, that was what I did first, come to think of it.
 
 
Vadrice
22:12 / 27.10.02
Oh yeah. And then I drank somewhat heavily.

~mutters something about chemicles~
 
 
cusm
17:49 / 28.10.02
I guess for the record my technique was automatic writing to create a sigel. As usual for me, it worked well because I was just puttering around rather than trying for any specific results, lack of Ego interference and all that.
 
  

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