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Whisky Priestess

09:20 / 05.03.02

Basic Coupe Management . . . is that the class where they teach you organisational methods for ice-cream and sporty cars?

09:20 / 05.03.02

We're The Great Old Ones Now

09:20 / 05.03.02

Oh, did I forget my irony signs? How very silly of me. Let me rephrase that:

{pretending to be a clueless fuckwit} I hope that's not Saturday this week: I've got protomarxist basketweaving at eight and Stalinite Retirement Policies all afternoon, and after that I'm having my brain waxed! {no longer being a clueless fuckwit, you may take me seriously now}

Happy?

09:20 / 05.03.02

MJ-12, *that* would make a good t-shirt.

Regrettable Juvenilia

09:20 / 05.03.02

You weren't joking about the toga party though, were you?

Whisky Priestess

09:20 / 05.03.02

This from a management consultant brochure:

The Pain Stays Fixed. The Approach Doesn't.

No, really it is.
I want them to print up four thousand black sweatshirts with this on for their AGM, and force their employees to wear them. While totally failing to see the funny side.

09:20 / 05.03.02

Odd fact, Professor David Kunzle from UCLA's Art History Department has extensively stidied sudied both the history of comics and the growing proliferation of Che Guvara's image...

This from The UCLA website
quote:
David Kunzle has written articles and books on various topics, many of them dealing with popular, political and public art, such as murals and comic strips, and the revolutionary art of Latin America. Recent endeavors include From Criminal to Courtier: The Soldier in Netherlandish Art 1550-1670 (Brill, 2002), and an updated edition of Fashion and Fetishism, a social history of the corset, tight-lacing and other forms of body-sculpture in the West.(Penguin Social History Classics, 2002)

[ 05-03-2002: Message edited by: sleazenation ]

Whisky Priestess

09:20 / 05.03.02

"no longer being a clueless fuckwit, you may take me seriously now"

Now that would be another good t-shirt. Except that nobody I know is qualified to wear it . . .

10:05 / 05.03.02

10:28 / 05.03.02

quote:Originally posted by Kit-Cat Club:
Is that meant to be a publicity pic for Rudolf the Red-Hosed Reindeer?

How did you see that? Rudolph's our holiday show, btw. No, I'm just parked my t-shirt .jpg on the theater's website, so I could post it here... if I could post it here...

10:31 / 05.03.02

YAYYY!!! I did it! Web certification program here I come!

Okay, must eat my breakfast now. Will return to receive lashes and strokes.

10:35 / 05.03.02

T-shirts for Dogs

niiiice .....

11:00 / 05.03.02

I want a 'My. Boy. Friend' one, with an amusing sideways-pointing arrow, so I can stand next to random strangers and freak 'em out...

11:08 / 05.03.02

Then I want one with "His. Girl. Friend." and a funny arrow so I can stand next to Ganesh and... hang on, let me think this through...

13:02 / 05.03.02

Soooo... you hate it. The black things look like cigarettes or organ pipes. What's with the crowns? Colors no good. Font no good. Should I scrap the whole picture and work on typography? Part of the reason I am doing this in the first place is to develop my picture-sense, which apparently does have a way to go...

Here's the thing: if I'm doing iron-ons, it really has to be something that's contained in a solid shape with a colored background; the iron-on stuff isn't invisible & looks bad if you don't *use* it in your design. I don't know if I'm explaining this right.

If I want floating figures or letters, then I'd have to go with silk screen. Which I can figure out, or I'd have to send it out to be printed...

Which leads to...

quote:Originally posted by Solitaire Rose:
So we're talking a lot...when will we put the damn things up on CafePress and start making some money for Tom?

I'd buy the lot of them if you set them up, dammit.

I'd started this thinking it would be a print-yer-own and swap-shop sort of deal, and I'm still going to do that. Maybe even just print out the transfers & then mail them to people to iron on their own shirts.

I'm not against the idea of turning this into a little anarcho-capitalist enterprise, but I'm in the same place with this as with above... make the designs, one at a time. So I'm probably going to miss the boat for kiss kiss granny, but I have something else up on my sleeve for that anyway.

So anyway that's what I'm doing, making the slow journey from the Idea of a t-shirt to an actual t-shirt. Great ideas, everybody, keep posting 'em as you think of 'em.

And I don't consider I own anything about Barbe tees... if other people, particularly people more design-competent and who can get on the stick faster than me, want to run with making their own t-shirts, the contents of this thread are open-source as far as I'm concerned.

quote:Originally posted by Flyboy:
I kind of envisage MUSICSAVESLIVES printed as one word, in quite bold capitals, maybe with a Red Cross/First Aid symbol next to, below or above it (so maybe do it in white and red).

That's great, that gives me a good start. (I thought of a companion shirt to this, too; but I've gone on long enough already, so will unveil at a later time.)

[ 05-03-2002: Message edited by: Persephone ]

mr insensitive

13:04 / 05.03.02

"I HATE PINK FLOYD."

13:08 / 05.03.02

I really like it, I just couldn't see it earlier... my internet has been strangely useless all day and wasn't pulling the picture in. I love that sort of vaguely retro style.

But - are you thinking of having that background shade for the cloth of the t-shirt? Cos it wouldn't suit me, and that would make me a sad panda... (mind you, sticking to what would suit everybody would leave you with a pretty limited colour range)

13:15 / 05.03.02

I don't actually like that background color at all; but in any case, the background color is part of the picture & the whole thing stuck on to the t-shirt, like a postage stamp on an envelope. Probably a white shirt is easiest if I'm doing iron-ons. If I do take this to my t-shirt vendor, I can ask him about how to make the design work on a colored shirt... so now's a good time to bring up color preferences.

15:26 / 05.03.02

what about buttons - in the push-pin sense - not the fasten-your-shirt-shut and patches. I have tons of friend who utterly adore buttons, and are perfectly willing to shell out for ones with novel or amusing statements. while they bring in less revenue per unit, they tend to sell faster, given that their interchangeability allows them to be circulated more rapidly or presented en masse [my own backpack brandishes three of four at any time], whereas a t-shirt is one big statement.
unfortunately i have no idea where to get a device to make buttons or patches at home...any thoughts?

15:42 / 05.03.02

quote:Originally posted by Mr insensitive:
"I HATE PINK FLOYD."

that's the best thing you've said all life!

How's this for a T-shirt idea?

minimalist, black text on white;

'everything is changing'

mr insensitive

16:00 / 05.03.02

I've actually got a shirt like this. To cut a long one short, I found this *impossibly* small yellow Pink Floyd shirt - I think it was a tour shirt from the seventies - And it had a little badge on the front which had a flower power Pink Floyd logo with a cute little rainbow for a background.

So I bought some of those black iron-on letters from a joke shop and voila! A classic shirt in the making!

Less searchable M0rd4nt

16:13 / 05.03.02

[ 05-03-2002: Message edited by: Mordant C@rnival ]

16:25 / 05.03.02

Nice One Mr.S, I have to say.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

17:56 / 05.03.02

Very nice. Pity the slogan, and the idea, date back to the heyday of Punk. Still, a classic's a classic.

18:13 / 05.03.02

quote:Originally posted by Persephone:
Soooo... you hate it. The black things look like cigarettes or organ pipes. What's with the crowns? Colors no good. Font no good. Should I scrap the whole picture and work on typography? Part of the reason I am doing this in the first place is to develop my picture-sense, which apparently does have a way to go...

I'd make the words bigger and the figures smaller - *perhaps* use a more legible font, and seriously think about keeping the "for you" on the same plane, if not the same line, as the "No Kiss-Kiss Bears".
Might be worthwhile making the font seem more official, more angry, to really get the message through.
The little pole people look like they'd be great fun animated. Bear in mind, though, a T-shirt has to be really quick in conveying a message.

Well, you asked.

18:58 / 05.03.02

I like that idea, Grant. Some kind of big, blocky letters that make it sound like an official edict from above.

19:10 / 05.03.02

Oh grant, it's totally fine... critique away. That's not the font I wanted to use in the first place... my Illustrator has barely any fonts installed at the mo... though I did want to use a "garbage" font b/c what they're saying is garbage.

Re: the picture, I'm working out of this book called How Pictures Work, by Molly Bang. Theory is that different colors & shapes provoke predictable emotional reactions... the pole thingys are supposed to be menacing (and suggest prison bars.) But right now they just look like talking cigarettes to me.

Back to drawing board...

19:46 / 05.03.02

I like the pole thingies a lot, Persephone. The crowns especially. As a whole, the design reminds me of a Russian Constructivist movie poster crossed with Nevermind the Bullocks album cover....I'd echo the font critique of Grant, as I don't think the present font would show up well at all on iron-on paper. I also think that maybe in addition to the larger pink triangle, "queer granny" should get an icon of her own of some sort.

But otherwise, I love it. A lot.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

20:09 / 05.03.02

Yeah, the font is pretty, but you want something with immediate oomph for a t-shirt. Maybe a more 50s-ish, Buggs Bunny sort of font?

00:27 / 06.03.02

My attempt at 'Queer Granny'. Many thanks to yummy new DesignerShock fonts.

[ 06-03-2002: Message edited by: the Fool ]

00:33 / 06.03.02

How's this?

00:42 / 06.03.02

I like the colours of the other one better. It's got a more sexy ultralounge type of feel to it, for hip swinging groovers and martini freaks.

The font is more punchy in the new one though.

01:11 / 06.03.02

We come from exploding stars...

01:19 / 06.03.02

I like the two bears as a logo, but "Barbe Tees" is kind of hard to read. But maybe it doesn't matter for a logo. What program are you using? I am using Illustrator. I haven't checked out your font link yet, but I surely do need more fonts.

Color change-up for you:

02:05 / 06.03.02

I think these work a lot better.

If you need some new fonts email me and I'll send you some. To get the DS fonts you have to have the CD off their terribly sexy new book to access the website to play the games to download the fonts... anyway its a bit involved (but very fun for a design slut like myself) and I've already downloaded them...

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