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tracypanzer
14:05 / 11.09.01
Additional United plane just went down but they don't know where.
 
 
Ierne
14:05 / 11.09.01
Todd: your girlfriend's best bet is to walk over 59th Street Bridge, all trains are kaput.And to stay in Queens, unless you have a car and can pick her up at the other side of the bridge.

A lot of buses, both North-South and Crosstown, are out of service. Not sure about bus service in Queens.
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
14:07 / 11.09.01
quote:Why do you assume that if they're American it's the militias? I know the movement, man, and they wouldn't do anything like that. I didn't say it was. I said that if this was an internal attack, that would end the militias. Which it will. The perception that they are a breeding ground for loonies is too strong, true or not.

Just as, if this is an Islamic fundamentalist attack, it'll be really fucking rough being Muslem in the US for a long time to come.

But in any case, you don't know the movement. You know some guys. Or a lot of guys. But groups like that, there's no perfect form, there's just a lot of drift under one loose heading. But they'll all take the fall...

And Ierne, man, I believe you don't want a war. But when they figure out whodunnit, and the dust settles and the numbers of the dead come in and Bush gets on his podium...a lot of people will.

No one does this to the US of A. No one.

Anyone else feel a chill? Rambo for Congress...

And why is that wrong? If I wear my total pacifist hat, it's easy. If I don't...
 
 
Ierne
14:09 / 11.09.01
I just heard over the TV that Threat Condition Delta has been activated by the military...If anyone can explain that further, please do, I'm unfortunately not up on military technology.
 
 
Jack Fear
14:10 / 11.09.01
Mmm. I hear you, Nick. Sad comics fanboy that I am, I'm hearing Elijah Snow in my head right now: "I don't enjoy killing people. I want to kill these people."
 
 
Ethan Hawke
14:10 / 11.09.01
THanks Ierne. Her building is block from St. Patricks and Rockefeller center, which are apparently under close surveillance by the cops at this moment. I won't feel better until I see her.
 
 
mondo a-go-go
14:12 / 11.09.01
canada has closed off its airspace too.

apart from that, they've reeled out the pundits and they're not actually telling us anything. they're keeping a lid on this.

debate on the bbc is whether this is an "act of war"
 
 
Spatula Clarke
14:14 / 11.09.01
Just switched over to BBC1 and heard a quote that's a little frightening, to say the least.

"This is a second Pearl Harbour."

As yet, I don't know who's said it.

[ 11-09-2001: Message edited by: E. Randy Dupre ]
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
14:14 / 11.09.01
Just been speaking to a friend who has in the past spent time with Arafat and knows a thing or two.

He said:

This is pivotal. There will be a time before and a time after.

He also said he cannot imagine that Europe will escape this kind of broad attack unscathed, and he asked me to avoid the financial district and the centre as a personal favour.

Since I wasn't going there anyway, it's no big deal. But he was scared. And this the guy who had a gun held to his temple in southern Lebanon for half an hour whilst they decided whether to execute him as a spy, and half a dozen other scary things I'd never do.
 
 
dragonthief
14:16 / 11.09.01
Can any one tell me where Bin Laden is holed-up at the moment?
 
 
Wendy Wanders
14:16 / 11.09.01
quote:Originally posted by aaron:
Additional United plane just went down but they don't know where.


It went down outside of Pittsburgh. The Guardian says US Gov. thinks there may have been another plane headed to the Pentagon, so that may have been it.
 
 
Ierne
14:17 / 11.09.01
All bridges & tunnels to & from New Jersey are closed.

Just heard from a pal who works at Lennox Hill Hospital Uptown on 77 & Park...the survivors started coming in about an hour ago. She wasn't very descriptive, just numb.
 
 
Jack Fear
14:17 / 11.09.01
quote:Originally posted by dragonthief:
Can any one tell me where Bin Laden is holed-up at the moment?

Afghanistan, as far as anyone knows, where he's under the protection of the Taliban.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
14:18 / 11.09.01
Taliban deny that Bin Laden has any part in this.
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
14:18 / 11.09.01
Thought to be Afghanistan, last I heard. If so, Putin is in Heaven right now.

'Pearl Harbour' comparisons are inevitable. Same idiot idea - cripple ths US and show strength. With the same idiot consequences, I would imagine.
 
 
sleazenation
14:18 / 11.09.01
ooopps looks like the board is beginning to creak under the weight of posts
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
14:18 / 11.09.01
threat condition delta is apparently US military jargon for the highest level of percieved threat to the US...

"The U.S. military employs four levels of security alert above threat condition "normal." They are "Alpha," "Bravo," "Charlie" and "Delta." A declaration of threat condition "Delta" normally indicates that a terrorist attack has occurred or intelligence indicates likely terrorist action against a specific location, Quigley said.

Extra precautions are taken to inspect visitors and vehicles, and the off-base movements of U.S. personnel are restricted."
from http://www.pstripes.com/ed102500b.html

"Taliban militia denying any responsibility..."

"FAA and United Airlines are 'deeply concerned' about flight 175 from boston to LA... missing..." (bbc via AP)

[ 11-09-2001: Message edited by: Lick my plums, bitch. ]
 
 
mondo a-go-go
14:19 / 11.09.01
fuck. we only live across the river from the houses of parliament. eek.

taliban is now denying bin laden had anything to do with it according to bbc.

that number again: 020-7008-0000
 
 
grant
14:19 / 11.09.01
quote:Originally posted by dragonthief:
Can any one tell me where Bin Laden is holed-up at the moment?


... as George W. was heard muttering as he boarded Air Force One.
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
14:19 / 11.09.01
Someone back this thread up. Apart from anything else, it's a primary source.
 
 
Ierne
14:20 / 11.09.01
Newt Gingrich made the Pearl Harbor comment.
 
 
Ellis
14:21 / 11.09.01
[Mild rot- What's happening to the board? Is it crashing?]
 
 
moriarty
14:21 / 11.09.01
Wrong again. US/Canada border closed. Downtown Toronto evacuated in case one of the rerouted planes has been hijacked.
 
 
e-n
14:21 / 11.09.01
should we move this to a new thread?
 
 
betty woo
14:23 / 11.09.01
I'm at Yonge & Bloor in Toronto, folks here seem to be staying up. I think it's mostly the King/Bay district, especially the Toronto Stock Exchange and neighbouring buildings.
 
 
mondo a-go-go
14:25 / 11.09.01
part two thread started before this one collapses.
 
 
mondo a-go-go
14:26 / 11.09.01
here
 
 
Chubby P
14:26 / 11.09.01
New Thread Here
 
 
dragonthief
14:27 / 11.09.01
Well, a strike on Afghanistan would be one, slightly desperate and pointless, course of action. What options, realistically are open tho Bush here? What is he likely to do? I feel genuine fear on that score.
 
 
grant
14:28 / 11.09.01
backed up. i also put excerpts up on livejournal.
 
 
deja_vroom
14:35 / 11.09.01
Man, The moment I heard the Capitol was on fire I thought: "Jesus Christ, someone wants to make a point clear!"
America is helpless against this kind of action. They are not falling, they are kneeling.
What is gonna happen now??? I've heard there are 5 planes being monitored, suspected to have been hijacked...
 
 
fluid_state
14:36 / 11.09.01
my heart goes out to all you americans. this shit is just wrong.

the last instigators of a "pearl harbor" coined the term and got two A-bombs dropped on them for their trouble. "Code delta' presumably indicates that the U.S. military is in full swing, and eyeing Afghanistan. maybe drooling, i don't know. but i fear america's patriotic zeal almost as much as random terroist disasters... i'll still take the former over the latter, any day of the week, though.
 
 
Johnny Mother
18:11 / 11.09.01
How long until the TV Movie starring Tom Berenger?
 
 
odd jest on horn
19:21 / 11.09.01
Bomb threat at KeflavĂ­k International Airport, Iceland.
Prolly just a "gag" though.
 
 
Richard Morgan
08:14 / 12.09.01
What happened to Parts 2 and 3 of this thread? Being told that these threads don't exist? Just saw them prior to accessing the first thread...

Anyone heard any reports about a bomb in the Empire State Building? Listening to NYPD radio yesterday two separate reports came over about a bomb discovered in the building - the first one was the report of the bomb's discovery and that radios were being switched off, and then a confirmation a couple of minutes later that a bomb had been found in the building. Next hour had two independent sightings of 'suspicious-looking' Arabs carrying knapsacks and duffel bags around the city, the first within the Empire State Building, two males on the 11th floor. Any other reports about this?
 
  

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