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US Republican line up for '08 McCain/Palin

 
  

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Ticker
17:53 / 04.09.08
Daily Show short reel of GOP flip flops on the issues regarding Palin

The Daily Show makes me less miserable.
 
 
electric monk
20:17 / 04.09.08
In the twenty seconds that I could stand to listen to Guliani prattle on, he said something about community organizers that was...well...pretty spiky. I did a double take, half-convinced that my ears were playing tricks. They weren't. And from what I understand, Palin continued the theme later in the evening. Typical, I thought, but still surprising in a way. Sorry for lack of link on the quotes. I's lazy.

Apparently, other people noticed too and the Washington Monthly offers a pretty good takedown of the whole thing. Check it. I thought some folks here might share in my "Oh fuck yeah" moment.

For more fun, see their front page for the latest on (you knew it was coming) a Republican calling the Obamas the "u" word.
 
 
Slim
20:50 / 04.09.08
"U" word?
 
 
Quimper
20:58 / 04.09.08
Uppity.

Suggesting a black man is "uppity" is being racist without being racist. It suggests that he don't know his place in the world.

Just like belittling the work that community organizers do.
 
 
electric monk
21:04 / 04.09.08
Yes. "U" word.

It builds the suspense a little, right? Because right away you think, "'U' word? What's he on about?" Then you click the link and navigate a little to the Washington Monthly front page and you read about how a Republican just called a sitting US Senator and his wife "uppity". Then you realise how fucked up these next couple of months are going to be. Then you realise how the Republicans have probably fucked themselves good and proper for the next, say, twenty years and you feel a little tinge of hope that maybe the decent and honorable people of this country might be able to get a few things accomplished soon. And it makes you feel good, despite the horrendousness of what is happening and what will come.

Y'see?
 
 
Slim
21:27 / 04.09.08
I would call labeling a black man as uppity an out-and-out racist action.

It was a Representative, not a Senator. And if you think the Republicans are done for 20 years, you would be incorrect. The Democrats have everything handed to them on a silver platter and if they win it will be by a slender margin.
 
 
Slim
21:28 / 04.09.08
My mistake re: Representative vs. Senator. I thought you called the Republican a Senator...
 
 
Tsuga
22:48 / 04.09.08
From the NYT:
Governor Palin swept in 37,244,000 viewers on Wednesday night, according to Nielsen — about 13 million more than watched her Democratic counterpart, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., last Wednesday night when he accepted the Democrats’ vice-presidential nomination and, most astonishingly, just a million shy of Senator Barack Obama’s record 38.4 million last Thursday at Invesco Field in Denver.

Here’s even more of a measure of the curiosity about Ms. Palin’s speech — she came that close to Mr. Obama’s record-setting viewership for a convention even though she was carried live on just six stations while Mr. Obama was carried on 10.


It's mostly the sensationalist hype of her nomination and out of the blueness and curiosity over it that drew this audience; what sucks is that so many people heard that well-written drivel. Americans, like pretty much everyone else in the world, have a weakness for tripe. It makes everything so simple and easy.
 
 
wicker woman
05:23 / 05.09.08
I, for one, am just glad that the repub convention is over. If I had to hear the words 'Country First', 'Hero', 'Drill baby, drill' or 'Maverick' one more time, I think my heart would seize up in revolt...

At any rate, with the choice of Palin as VP and the subsequent days of the RNC, I've gone from thinking that groups like PUMA and Clintons4McCain are more than baffling, they're dangerously foolish. Palin's insane positions on women's rights aside, her other beliefs seem constructed from the ground up to do nothing so much as give the extreme right wing nutters a stiffy.

I mean, am I the only one that gets visions of the vat-grown vice president from Transmetropolitan when I see her now?

Speaking of Transmet, Wednesday night at the Convention sounded like nothing so much as a Bob Heller rally. "We don't want the wombs of our pure American ideals shat in by Europeans!" Yeargh. Never thought I would be more worried about the state of things than I have been under Bush and Co.
 
 
Tsuga
09:07 / 05.09.08
I listened to as much of McCain's speechifying as I could before I started dozing off and had to bail. He tried to use his time in front of the television audience to appeal to those outside the Republican base, which flew on the convention floor like lead balloons. It's a bit of a gamble to risk losing some of the whipped-up fervor of your political base right at the end of the convention, but I loved seeing some of the stunned or sour faces on the floor.
His delivery seemed especially stilted, as well.
The protesters shouting him down, to be drowned out, along with McCain, by the chant, "U-S-A!", were very effective at throwing off the rhythm and reminding the television audience of the policies McCain supports.

U-S-A!

I'm going to start yelling that anytime I start hearing something I don't like.
 
 
grant
11:00 / 05.09.08
Actually, I quite liked what he said about public service and the horrors of war.

Pity it was wrapped in that crap about drill, drill, drilling.
 
 
Ticker
11:51 / 05.09.08
yeah so I have a mad crush on Jay Smooth
 
 
Ticker
11:53 / 05.09.08
Also do people actually think drilling is the solution?
REALLY?
 
 
electric monk
11:53 / 05.09.08
The Democrats have everything handed to them on a silver platter

Priceless.

and if they win it will be by a slender margin.

I'm not sure you can have your surrogates blame all of America's current woes on "Liberal Washingon", then vow to end the partisan rancor on the next night and expect anyone to believe anything you or your surrogates say. Effective cognitive dissonance has its limits, and when it reaches those limits it looks like desperation.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
12:01 / 05.09.08
RosieX and I have started referring to this election as "the wrestling". Despite the fact that Obama is yet to perform a hurricarana (obamacarana?), McCain has not yet torn off his shirt to reveal a freakish, Vince McMahon-esque steriod torso, and we have yet to see a Michelle Obama/Sarah Palin "lingerie catfight"... The experience of following the twists and turns of this really is a lot like following a WWE plot line. Emphasis on the word "yet" though, as they may well be holding back some of the above strategies for the debates.
 
 
Eek! A Freek!
12:14 / 05.09.08
%I heard that McCain rescued some reporters in southern texas by shooting a giant tiger. He then stared down a hurricane with such righteous ferocity that it turned around and ravaged Haiti.%

Drill, baby, drill.

I really shudder to admit it, but despite being a major fuckup, I won't be surprised if he wins.

Especially if Diebold has anything to say about it...
 
 
grant
13:38 / 05.09.08
1. Also do people actually think drilling is the solution?
REALLY?


Yes, some people do. Because, you know, we believe AMERICA IS LAND OF PLENTY and that WE CAN INVENT INGENIOUS SOLUTIONS TO EVERYTHING and that these solutions are invariably QUICK, CONVENIENT, MASS-PRODUCED. Offshore drilling appears to fit that narrative, even though the actuality is almost certainly going to fall short - won't be quick, thus won't solve the immediate shortage (and isn't a good long-term fix, either), and there isn't all that much easily accessible oil out there.

2. I'm not sure you can have your surrogates blame all of America's current woes on "Liberal Washingon", then vow to end the partisan rancor on the next night and expect anyone to believe anything you or your surrogates say.

I've been thinking about Romney's speech, turning it over in my head. And I think I want to create a web page. It would have to be slickly designed, with a logo that says something like "Barack OBAMA: the real CONSERVATIVE".

The URL would be something like www.conservativesforobama.com, and there'd be about five pages of bulleted lists and copy blocks. The text would take Romney's odd definition of "conservative" and "liberal" (without mentioning that they were odd, or that that was actually what was going on - just in a Rovian way take it utterly for granted that the reader accepted the truism that "Washington=Liberal=Bad") and use that lens to define Obama as something called a "true conservative."

It'd have to be organized around things like his community organizing experience (only not using the words "community organizer," because they've become charged) - like with, say, a quote from a Habitat for Humanity volunteer extolling Obama's appreciation for hard work next to a gauzy photo of a man with a toolbelt and a hammer on a roof. "He understands what it is to do a hard day's work to help the little guy out."

I mean, like, a total psycho fluff job of absurdist doublespeak. It'd be totally awesome.
 
 
Ticker
13:43 / 05.09.08
Sarah Palin's sisterhood of Christian Everywoman-ness

She sure as hell is not my version of the everywoman. Her level of privilege in no way represents the lives of poor women, women of color, lesbian, disabled, non Christian, single mother, and many other more resonate kinds of woman-ness.

My spouse and I were discussing how once again the Right's Christian agenda is as repugnant a fundamentalism as any theocracy the US holds up as a threat to global stability. The inability of the American people to perceive how noxious any State sponsored religious agenda really is, strikes me as horribly depressing. That someone can put forth a fundamental political platform as acceptable in the 21st century speaks volumes about how ignorant Americans are (of many things not the least of which is a Christian doctrine encompassing the oxymoron of a Pro-Life pro death penalty Administration.)
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:44 / 05.09.08
Much as I hate both Richard Littlejohn and Jon Gaunt, reading both their columns today made me feel embarrassed for them more than anything else. Look, guys, Sarah Palin is NOT going to shag you. (Gaunt's even had "and, for the record, if I wasn't married, I would" as the postscript).
 
 
Ticker
13:47 / 05.09.08
Gloria Steinem on why Sarah Palin is the wrong woman for the job.

Just how crazypants religious is the US?
 
 
Ticker
13:57 / 05.09.08
grant, I'll give you a 100$ to make that site.
For the awesomeness.

Sigh. I think you maybe correct about Americans' dumb ass quick fix need. I heard my Dad, Puca, saying something about off shore drilling the other day being the thing to do and it makes me cringe-y. But I tend to think of the Puca as a fringe element of neoconness not what teh Peoples of teh USA! think.
 
 
Quantum
14:30 / 05.09.08
Just how crazypants religious is the US?

That's a rhetorical question, right? From someone in the land of right wing religious rhetoric, I'm thinking you must be forgetting your sarcasm delimiters...
 
 
Ticker
14:37 / 05.09.08
Sadly no, Quants, I think I'm just lolling about on the floor holding my head when I say it wishing for a tinfoil hat.

I don't dare travel south or west of NY state for fear of being burnt alive at a stake. So sometimes I think I'm being paranoid about it and unfair to my fellow citizens but then I see things like the GOP RNC speechifying and get truly terrified. What's the Christian equivalent of Islamophobia? 'Cause sometimes I think I've got that and try very hard not to be a jerk. You are witnessing the 'it can't really be like that, can it?' phase.
 
 
grant
14:59 / 05.09.08
Heart follows Mellencamp and Springsteen into the "Don't Use My Song!" camp.

BarracOODAH!

And, from the gutter, according to Reddit (and not any resources I have on the inside), the Enquirer is alleging that Palin had something to do with this divorce involving her male business partner.
 
 
grant
15:10 / 05.09.08
Oh, and: I don't dare travel south or west of NY state

MITT ROMNEY, you Yankee!
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
15:35 / 05.09.08
The Democrats have everything handed to them on a silver platter

Priceless.


I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. I can't imagine a likely worse two terms for the Republicans, and I agree that the Democrats couldn't have asked for a better chance to jump ahead.

and if they win it will be by a slender margin.

I'm not sure you can have your surrogates blame all of America's current woes on "Liberal Washingon", then vow to end the partisan rancor on the next night and expect anyone to believe anything you or your surrogates say. Effective cognitive dissonance has its limits, and when it reaches those limits it looks like desperation.


I also believe it will be a close call (would love to be proved wrong, though). I think you may be giving the average american voter too much credit. People here have a high tolerance for ridiculous bullshit.
 
 
Quantum
16:03 / 05.09.08
Pic from Encyclopedia 4chan
 
 
Eek! A Freek!
16:06 / 05.09.08
Quantum, Quantum, Quantum.
You joining 4chan after all?
 
 
Mr Tricks
16:54 / 05.09.08
"I think I want to create a web page. It would have to be slickly designed, with a logo that says something like "Barack OBAMA: the real CONSERVATIVE"." ~grant

Say the word and I'll help you build it.

While listening to McKain's story of his POW days I couldn't help but hear the last vestiges of his integrity cracking under the weight of selling out that taboo for the victory.

A war hero and a beauty queen, the rest of his cabinet could be plucked from the cast of SCREAM.
 
 
Pingle!Pop
16:58 / 05.09.08
Wait, the last vestiges of his integrity cracking just now because of mentioning his POW days? You realise that for the entire campaign he's managed to someone mention POW! in every sentence he's uttered?

Like: "So yeah, I have at least seven houses, but for five years I had only one house: PRISON!"

Really.
 
 
Ticker
18:10 / 05.09.08
Quants, that image makes me feel icky. Like in a gross sexist (not sexiest) 'it's funny to make sexual refs to a female political figure' way.


I find the whole VPMILF thing utterly repugnant as it once again states any woman who is a public figure has her sexuality weighed and publicly assessed as part of her value. Sure this is true of many celebrities male and female but it's clearly amplified with female candidates. I call bullshit.

It's creepy and gross with the drill here drill now tagline.
The whole 'Hottest VP' button thing makes me want to puke but I'm all out of spleen with the GOP right now anyway.


grant: Re: the Mitt Romney thing...
I only feel safe where there are large boisterous gay pride marches. Perhaps that is a better qualification for travel.
 
 
grant
19:16 / 05.09.08
Oh, VPILF.com had all kinds of powerful-woman-must-be-sexualized-for-assimiliation vibe to it.

And it's only going to get worse, I'm afraid.

---

On another tack: this flag from the convention is a bit of a puzzlement. Trick of the lens?

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It looks like someone has parked some ads on conservativesforobama.com.

But http://www.conservativeobama.com/ and http://www.obamaconservative.com/ both seem free.

http://www.obamaconservatives.com scoots you over to radio guy Austin Hill's page.

Hmm.
 
 
Ticker
19:40 / 05.09.08
Uh oh now they've done called out the Beauty Queen vs. the Nerdy Girl
 
 
Mr Tricks
19:47 / 05.09.08
Wait, the last vestiges of his integrity cracking just now because of mentioning his POW days?

Emphasis on the word last. Up until that speech I never heard him speak of it publicly. Yes, I'm aware that the campaign theme at the RNC was based entirely on the War Hero narrative. However, he seemed to retained a gloss of the integrity upon which he had built his reputation. Or at least the option to claim that he still doesn't speak about it.

Anyone else notice how W compared angry liberals with the North Vietnam army?
 
 
Mr Tricks
19:49 / 05.09.08
Oh and state Number 51: Israel?
 
  

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