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AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!!!!

 
  

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Dead Megatron
20:51 / 17.10.07
Shut up, Dead Megatron.

I actually just have, but I swear it was on Boboss' advice

Tell me when we're back at exclusively spoofing Marvel Comics characters.
 
 
Triplets
20:55 / 17.10.07
HERE! (imagine this in a REALLY TINY FONT, but still mightily bold)
 
 
Glenn Close But No Cigar
21:02 / 17.10.07
So who, er, wants to be the Wasp?
 
 
Mistoffelees
21:05 / 17.10.07
Wasn´t pretty much every A-League Marvel hero at least once a member of the Avengers? I´m pretty sure, most of the core X-Men, the classic FF4 and Spider-Man had a membership card for some time.

And what about the West Coast Avengers? Can they play, too?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:09 / 17.10.07
I saw Joanna Lumley at a concert the other night.

...that's the wrong Avengers, isn't it?
 
 
Dead Megatron
21:14 / 17.10.07
And what about the West Coast Avengers? Can they play, too?

No
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
21:14 / 17.10.07
Wasn´t pretty much every A-League Marvel hero at least once a member of the Avengers? I´m pretty sure, most of the core X-Men, the classic FF4 and Spider-Man had a membership card for some time.

Really? Spider-man is certainly a member - the only X-men I can think of are Wolverine, Quicksilver (X-Factor, but there you go) and the Beast, but crazy shit does happen... no idea on the Fantastic Four.

What always struck me about the Avengers was that, core aside, there were so many basically awful and obscure heroes in there, presumably because the headline heroes like the F4 had their own stuff going on... so, for every Thor there was a Jack of Hearts, for every Captain America a Warbird, for every Iron Man an Ant-Man 2, or a Starfox, or a Sersi - possibly enormously powerful, but with no real _traction_.
 
 
Dead Megatron
21:21 / 17.10.07
Really? Spider-man is certainly a member

Actually, I liked it better when Spidey was pretty much the only Marvel character to never being an Avenger* at some point (always the loner, aren't you Peter?), but alas! that didn't last.


*informal cooperations and crossovers in which Captain America can't help but to make a comment on "not knowing how to work in a team as a good soldier would, kid!" do not count.
 
 
Mistoffelees
21:22 / 17.10.07
no idea on the Fantastic Four.

Maybe they weren´t members, but they definitely lived in the Mansion, when the Baxter Building got destroyed (again?). Probably when it got shot into space by Doc Doom.

edit:
Found a wiki link, and yes, at least Reed and Sue were members.
 
 
Triplets
21:29 / 17.10.07
Aunt Beast is an Earth-606 version of our very own Hank "The Beast" McCoy, surely? Surely. I know past actions might make things I say, for lack of a better term, suspect, but I'm changing. I'm trying to change.

Having a quick shufty through Wikipedia's Avengers roster reveals that the Invisible Woman and the Human Torch (the flaming robot one) were members at one point. Wikipediavengers Assemble!
 
 
Triplets
21:30 / 17.10.07
Mist! Cross-Posts on Infinite Earths!
 
 
Dead Megatron
21:30 / 17.10.07
Probably when it got shot into space by Doc Doom.

If i remember correctly my years of reading Byrne and not realizing how bad a writer he really was, that was Doc Doom's adopted heir, Kristoff, while he was brainwashed into thinking he himself was Doom.

Obviously.
 
 
Triplets
21:40 / 17.10.07
I've just come back from a visit to the medicine cabinet (this isn't really a euphemism for anything) and, well, I think we'd be all well to leave the abstract issue until everyone's had a good night's sleep.

Actually, "where's Jan?", is what I'm really thinking.
 
 
Dead Megatron
21:43 / 17.10.07
"Invasion of the huge bright green bugs from the Nevada desert" is another good possibility
 
 
_Boboss
22:00 / 17.10.07
this is kinda more what i was hoping for. tomorrow i might talk about hank the tank pym's red jumpsuit phaseth, but for now:

simon thingy: wonder man


never, ever cool.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
22:17 / 17.10.07
That's exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. Wonder Man - largely invulnerable, incredibly strong, can fly, something about Ionic energy fishcakes.. but just not interesting or cool at all. Probably not helped by being the Grim Reaper's brother, or some such nonsense. The Living Laser's nephew? Really, who cares?
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
22:17 / 17.10.07
I was the one who inserted the summary. I did it because empty summaries irk me and the Fathers 4 Justice connection was simply because of the dressing-up reference.
I've only just come back online and I realise now, sincerely, that this was a severe error of judgement and I totally fucked up. I apologise unequivocally to XK and anyone else I offended. I'm a stupid thoughtless prick. Please don't leave Barbelith, you contribute so much more than me.
Really, really ashamed now.
 
 
Glenn Close But No Cigar
22:46 / 17.10.07
Decent of you to 'fess up Johnny, and decent of you to apologise. Thanks.
 
 
Triplets
23:36 / 17.10.07
You big Skrull, Bizunth.
 
 
This Sunday
01:12 / 18.10.07
It's a very good thing that I can't change my handle, right now. Because I'd shift over to Janet van Dyne in an instant. And that would be kinda sad. Except I'd have a thousand fabulous costumes, a few thousand not-as-fabulous costumes, and occasionally I'd be rich and not involved with Hank 'how many times can this guy get forgiven' Pym. And really, flight, height-shifting, strength and blasty powers... that's all the basics outside of telepathy covered, yeah?
 
 
Spaniel
07:25 / 18.10.07
What always struck me about the Avengers was that, core aside, there were so many basically awful and obscure heroes in there, presumably because the headline heroes like the F4 had their own stuff going on... so, for every Thor there was a Jack of Hearts, for every Captain America a Warbird, for every Iron Man an Ant-Man 2, or a Starfox, or a Sersi - possibly enormously powerful, but with no real _traction_.

Completely agreed, but in some strange way that's what attracted me to them, the possibility that amongst all those superheroes there would be one or two, heretofore unknown to me, who would, given the right stresses, step up to the plate and rock. I think Morrison nailed it when he described them as a sports team: some members are the superstars, some will come up through the ranks and shine, others will drag the team down or remain largely invisible, and the roster will be ever changing.

In fact it seems to me that The Initiative has taken the place of the Avengers of old, as the new teams are more like supergroups. Granted not every member is cool as fuck, but then neither was every member of every superstar pop group.
 
 
haus of fraser
08:09 / 18.10.07
I just saw how the thread had changed since our assembly yesterday... ooo those cheeky mods... or should i say grrrr, err... Hulk Smash!

 
 
Haus Of Pain
08:54 / 18.10.07
AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!
 
 
Mistoffelees
09:15 / 18.10.07
"Hey, you guys! got some interdimensional portal lying round? It´d be nice, if you could help me return to my world. I've given up trying to assimilate. I've got to get back to my own kind!"

"In exchange, you get this shiny dag-, sword. Also, you got some spare pants?"
 
 
Jawsus-son Starship
09:33 / 18.10.07
Umm, I'm the shark jesus. I know you already have one "son of god" on your team ('sup Thor, shout a holla back to Asgard for Odin. Tell him Dad sends his love), but I think you deffo need the shark messiah on your team. My powers include turning water into red water, I'm made of cartlidge, I'm a wicked good swimmer! Just keep me in mind guys, that's all I'm asking. You know, if Namour's busy or something...
 
 
Haus of Mystery
13:48 / 18.10.07
Ha HAH! It feels good to have my strong-hearted warriors around me.

I'm afraid yesterday's kerfuffle with the OVER-MODERATOR sent me on a totally planet-sized Starkbender, and when I came too I was upside down in the Iron Man suit covered in my own sick. And waking up with a bastard behind the eyes in the Savage Land is not something I recommend. Luckily I hitched a ride back on Devil Dinosaur (rocket boots sadly on the fritz due to immersion in technicolour yawn)and ended up safely ensconsed at the Mansion.
Needless to say, a fizzy Vitamain C tablet and a spot of toast took the edge off things, and I'm back to enjoy the warm companionship of my good Avenger brethren.

Who's for a quick Secret War?
 
 
Spaniel
14:08 / 18.10.07
I AM A ROBOT!
 
 
Dark side of the Moonfrog1
15:39 / 18.10.07
Bwa-ha-ha-ha! A Secret War you say? Now you're talking!

VILLAINS ASSEMBLE!!!!!!!!!
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:50 / 18.10.07
There is no way that my tough-talking, streetwise new self can possibly point out that the Vision is, in fact, a synthezoid. I already miss the Invisible Chaos Majickian.
 
 
The Falcon
16:10 / 18.10.07
Well.

If you ain't on the list, don't be assemblin'. "Lowrise" is not an Avenger, nor is Megatron. Perhaps if you were to call yourself Dead Ultron, we could make it our mission to shut you up.

[Dammit guys, I unleashed the Oxygen of Attention!!]

To me my Avengers! I might be the new Captain America. I might...
 
 
Spaniel
18:28 / 18.10.07
I AM A SYNTHEZOID!
 
 
Closed for Business Time
18:51 / 18.10.07
Is that some sort of chemist? An apothecary of the future is what I'm hearing.
 
 
_Boboss
19:10 / 18.10.07
I would like to apologise for and attenuate some comments i made upthread regarding the cooleth of the actor/avenger/glasses-wearer of the year 1983, simon whatever. i have since recalled an opening page during his red raincoat fashion period (see above) where he and hank the spank mccoy are seen stumbling home towards avengers mansion at dawn, having been out all night drinking in celebration of simon give-one having landed a role in some soap opera or other. a huge robot attacks, and wonderman and beast are the very first to fall, being blind drunk. contrary to what i said earliereth, that is in fact very fucking cool.

i am glad that haus mentioned simon youknow's brother the grim reaper, as I think there is much potential there for an 'impractically accessorised villains' thread. obviously this would feature g. reaper, with the scythe on his hand there


(great cover)

and we caould talk about his grim usefulness around the family farm come harvest time ('just don't expect me to be happy about it!'), and perennial shang-chi badster razorfist


(not so great)

with his special powers of making salsa and bringing new meaning to the term 'having a slash'. (oh hang on, i'm just being dave's long box now aren't i?)

is it weston? or is he the guy who got his head blown off in the falklands?



moving on, the sports-team analogy works well i think. one of the avengers' more agreeably daft villains is the taskmaster


(I really like that shot- good update)

who's basically the ultimate in evil PE teachers.

the first appearance of the taskmaster is out in trade i believe, along with quite a lot of roy thomas' excellent run on the title, including the kree-skrull war storyline which i think is generally hailed as the avengers' finest moment, with excellent neal adams art, some classic ant-man sequences and a ending which might have been original at some time in history i guess. thomas' work on the book is to my mind the apotheosis of seventies-into-eighties superhero marvel magic, keeping it real at a time prior to claremont/byrne's xmen when the company was only really making its mark in the comedy, horror and kung-fu genres (byrne/claremont's xmen aside).

to thomas' lasting credit, his work tries to put some sense into the biggest bit of stupid surrounding the team, that of their name, and the fact that they don't really do much avenging. in his run, there are lots (really, lots) of instances of avengers believeing certain team-mates to have just been killed by the scarlet viking or whoever, when in fact they have just fallen through a trapdoor, been teleported away at the last second, were just a robot double anyway etc. this gives the remaining, grieving (action-grieving) avengers something to get all motivated and self-righteously avengeful about ('let's do it for goliath!'). it's a very cheap trick of course, and makes for weirdly bumpy storytelling, but allows for their enormous, mediocre membership to get the odd couple of panels in the sunshine, and is somehow rather compelling, in that you true believe iron man hasn't been killed by that stupid boobytrap (although some part of me is always a bit worried for them) because he's iron man, but you do want to know how and why he isn't dead, so you read on. Read On!
 
 
Aertho
19:18 / 18.10.07
What the hell. It's only a month. And this thread could use some more boozing socialites.
 
 
Shiny: Well Over Thirty
19:23 / 18.10.07
Dammit! I so wanna be Dr Druid right now. Stupid. Incompetent. Supremely arrogant. Awful costume and balding. Completely treacherous. He was clearly the best Avenger EVAH.
 
  

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