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13:40 / 21.03.07

Okay, so Flux has got back to me and he's happy for us to take him off the list. As for Warewullf, ze hasn't met my deadline, so I'm going to request that ze is removed.

Email to Tom, ahoy.

18:41 / 21.03.07

Email sent

11:10 / 01.04.07

Flkagging up here that I want to be removed as a moderator in FTV&T because of the whole spoilers thing being an issue again. That'll be user profile 8, remove from forum 11, if it makes any difference.

Tryphena Absent

11:38 / 01.04.07

I think you're going to need to email Tom that information. I asked to be removed from moderation about 2-3 months ago and it just never happened.

13:29 / 01.04.07

Yeah, it's been almost 10 days since I emailed Tom re getting some new Comic monds and so far I've heard nowt.

Yet another example of teh broken.

14:08 / 01.04.07

I think Tom is currently in Las Vegas.

14:19 / 01.04.07

Oh, I'm sure there's a reason - I wasn't digging at Tom - I was just pointing out that this is yet another example of Barbelith's poor functionality.

10:52 / 04.04.07

Tom's just done the business, folks. Looks like back-up has arrived.

Hallo, Paper Spaceboy

14:24 / 04.04.07

I just looked at one of the threads with, ah, "new eyes" - slightly bizarre, first thing in the morning.

10:59 / 05.04.07

I should probably at least start glimpsing at Policy a tad more frequent, I guess. I was not in a condition to see all those 'edit post' thingies all at once like that.

I actually had to put the computer down and try to work the whole thing out. And then fight the urge to go through my posts and fix any spelling or factual errors/confusion. But, then, they're like an archive of me occasionally getting something wrong and it seemed silly.

Can anyone tell me if there's been any threads of length or significance (not somebody trying to sell something) that have been deleted out of the Comics Forum? Just so I've got an idea of what it would take?

12:18 / 05.04.07

Can't tell you which ones off the top of my head, but I've been involved in moving/deleting a number of threads. If something is horrifically offensive or non-comics related it goes either somewhere else or in the bin, basically. If you have any specific questions head Moderation Discussion thread.

You know you don't have to be a mod to edit your own posts, right?

MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!

15:22 / 05.04.07

I was using "Edit Post" as a flag to see which posts were mine -- it's easier to spot, jutting out on the right -- and it was a bit weird (and slighly headrushy) to see it on every single post.

16:02 / 05.04.07

On deleting threads, should you ever feel you need to: don't forget to lock them in a second moderation request. Barbelith doesn't actually delete threads, it just hides them from view, so they need to be locked to prevent interference and general pissing about within them once hidden.

Hallo, Paper Spaceboy

16:34 / 05.04.07

There was that "Juggernaut, b****" thread a while ago that had to be removed, although I'd rather not revisit that particular monster.

Now that we've got more mods about, I suppose we can retask this particular thread for Comics-specific mod discussion, like the Temple & Lab have? It's been relatively quiet since the mod hat came on, although there was one request waiting for about five seconds and disappeared in between me being on the main screen and then clicking over to the Comics.

17:53 / 05.04.07

I imagine that comics will be very tidy for some a while now! Hopefully Lab too...

18:45 / 05.04.07

Well, playing by ear's never hurt much before.

And, yeah, I know I could edit my own posts, however, sigining in and seeing all the little tags line up (which I had been using to spot my own posts if I went back looking for something - which is what I was doing last night) was about as close to standing outside the timemaggot as I'm like to get this week. By seeing that tag on every post, the mutability, I suddenly just felt mildly paranoid about all the little typos I'm sure creep into my posts.

Call it the 'Curse of the Editor-Goggles' just because I'd like that title on a paperback with dodgy SHIELD-era Stern turned horrorhouse Wrightson art somewhere.

Then I realized there's now a small army of moderators for the forum. Which read like my unposted BarbeCrush list.

Spyder Todd 2008

23:34 / 06.04.07

It's been relatively quiet since the mod hat came on, although there was one request waiting for about five seconds and disappeared in between me being on the main screen and then clicking over to the Comics.

Ah, this sort of answers a question I've been wondering about. I've been checking every updated thread in comics since I was made a moderator, looking to see if anything needed fixing. But there is a little message or something that pops up whenever a request is put through?

00:38 / 07.04.07

I saw a little thing next to the number of old messages I've got, something like 'and 1 job' but then it went away in a flash. Which would've been fine in the daytime, but at roughly three in the morning, I almost convinced myself it couldn't have been there.

Some people must mod quickly.

Hallo, Paper Spaceboy

22:19 / 07.04.07

When I have time to sit down with the comics for the week and have a good think, I'll chuck out some new threads -- I've got ideas for two or three, but no time to sit down and bang out something coherent to start them off.

Hallo, Paper Spaceboy

15:46 / 22.05.07

Time to dust off this thread again and maybe address some issues. Or one issue, anyway: the irrelevant thread issue.

This thread was moved over to the Convo, apparently, and is notable for being a second thread as near as I can tell - someone deleted the first one while I was off yesterday? Which is fine, I was perfectly comfortable with having it removed or locked, but clearly we need to get a better handle on what sort of threads are relevant and worthwhile to the Comics culture, and we need to clarify how quickly and without debate we can act as mods to quell a potential thread-zit?

We also need to do something about the "It's irrelevant! Chuck it in the Convo!" tendency, because that always seems to happen with threads that seem a bit off in the Convo. Do we need to be more proactive with the locking? How much room is there for "Wizardworld" (shiver) "humour" (riiight) or just plain silly threads in the Comics?

16:42 / 22.05.07

I wanted it locked the first time. The second time it came up, I PMed the poster and a few mods to see what the deal was. But, in the end, I capitulated - and even posted a suggestion in the thread - because I figured maybe I overreacted the first time. And then it went to Convers.

I haven't anything against silly threads in the comics forum. My concern was that it was unnecessary as a thread. There were threads that could have been resurrected, and then when the novelty of the pic died a natural death, something else relating to that thread may have come along, and we'd have had that to post about.

At this rate the top forum will be nothing but pics with funny captions and an Urgh! Hate thread.

The thing that strikes me is that we've got perfectly functional threads to knock stuff like this into, mostly to fill time while waiting for a new issue of whatever title the thread's for. At least two were suggested in the first thread before it got locked. So, how would a thread-merger work after half a dozen posts? Can it work smoothly?

16:47 / 22.05.07

We can't do it. You need to copy and paste the entire thing into a single post yourself if you want to merge two threads.

16:48 / 22.05.07

Okeh. Suspected as much, but I was hopeful or something.

Hallo, Paper Spaceboy

17:05 / 22.05.07

The thing that strikes me is that we've got perfectly functional threads to knock stuff like this into, mostly to fill time while waiting for a new issue of whatever title the thread's for. At least two were suggested in the first thread before it got locked.

It's a bit like those speculator threads that popped up for a while -- things calmed down a bit once we had established one thread that covered all aspects of the topic.

Possibly just establishing some moderator etiquette -- as in, if two people agree in-thread that the thread needs to be locked, then we just do it and then come over here and discuss it further if need be - and suggest alternative threads where a posting might make sense (in the event that it would). We can, from my understanding, unlock the thread later if its deemed admissable, although I doubt we will.

We've got this thread over here and there's no reason not to use it more often. Also give us n00b-mods more of a chance to get comfortable with the r00les rather than looking like the "Mayor of Hootlepoof" or whatever it was Flyboy said.

Regrettable Juvenilia

17:28 / 22.05.07

Perhaps people should familiarise themselves with the basics of moderation before being appointed moderators? I suppose ensuring that would entail the person responsible for the appointments giving a damn about the board, though...

17:49 / 22.05.07

that would entail the person responsible for the appointments giving a damn about the board

I don't think it's very fair to compare the hard working Stuart Drummond to our absent father figure. Poor Stuart.

18:16 / 22.05.07

Well, I think that the new mods are doing a decent enough job in that they are active and thoughtful about their role, and do seem to to care about the future direction of the forum. I know this because I get to read the reason field, have been involved in PM discussions and pay attention to the little bits of good work people do. I assume everyone's just finding their feet.

However I'm also of the opinion that Comics mods should take a much harder line than we have been. Comics seems to attract rubbish threads like flies to shit. I think this happens for a number of reasons (the name of board is likely one, the lack of moderators until relatively recently is likely another) - and I think it happens more than in any forum other than Convo. To my mind one of the ways we can put a stop to this is by nuking crap threads from orbit the second they appear, it is, as they say, the only way to be sure.

A beautiful tunnel of ghosts

19:21 / 22.05.07

I'd been unsure of what action, if any, to take on Seeker's thread; my immediate reaction had been to post in the thread about its relevance, but I'd prefer to post here first about any issues with users and/or threads in the forums and discuss possible action with other moderators.

MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!

19:35 / 22.05.07

I'm a recent Comics mod, but right now I'm viewing the role as "do jobs quickly when they come up" and not taking an active hand really at all. The Seeker thing kind of flew past me (although I think I was one of the move-to-deleters when it was proposed, because I could see it had already been discussed, along with a lock, in-thread), as did the move of thread #2 to Convo.

Other than the ambiguous "high standard of conversation," though, there isn't much for me to go on but context and my own subjective ideas of tone when deciding if something like "guess who's back?" pops up. My reaction, had I been the first to find it, would have been the same as to somebody who posts a link and nothing but: back that up with some original thought or leave it off, please; but that's not really "moderation."

Hallo, Paper Spaceboy

19:53 / 22.05.07

Flyboy: Perhaps people should familiarise themselves with the basics of moderation before being appointed moderators?

If you'll look upthread, Fly, at various points before and during the acquistion of new mods, people asked for more information and guidance regarding the mod hat duties they were going to be taking on, only to be met with some vague hand-waving and a note that any time there's a question it can be brought to the policy to be given more active and direct dicussion.

I'm happy with using the nuke-from-orbit approach if everyone else is, but I expect if we're going that route we're going to need discussion to continue over here.

20:29 / 22.05.07

Comics mods should take a much harder line than we have been.

Troof. It gets a lot of traffic, but not necessarily of the highest quality. If Barbelith is supposed to be aiming at better discussion than elsewhere on the net, doesn't that include comix? I know the competition is Byrnerobotix or whatever but still...

20:36 / 22.05.07

That being the case, why not sally forth and start some more topics - content is king.

Our Lady Has Left the Building

05:06 / 23.05.07

Thinking Palindrome Fishes We also need to do something about the "It's irrelevant! Chuck it in the Convo!" tendency, because that always seems to happen with threads that seem a bit off in the Convo.

Aha. Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Aha.

I'm terribly sorry, it must be something I ate.

Spyder Todd 2008

05:39 / 23.05.07

However I'm also of the opinion that Comics mods should take a much harder line than we have been.

Shifting gears a bit, (but on that note) right now I'm concerned about the goings on in the New Avengers thread. Frankly, I'm irritated that the majority of the last thread page has seemingly been devoted to nothing but sexual exploits, mostly between those of Jessica Jones and Luke Cage (as if it's any of our business). I'm worried that this has attracted all the attention away from the actual topic of conversation (namely the Avengers), but on the other hand, I have to admit this nonsense is sort of relevant. Not very relevant, mind you, but since they're both main characters in New Avengers...

Basically, I'm wondering if my irritation isn't a bit over zealous, which is why I haven't actively steered the conversation away from this stuff yet. Any thoughts?

06:40 / 23.05.07

My fault, really - sincere apologies if the speculation about what Luke Cage gets up to once the lights are off seemed a bit depressing.

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