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Heroes -- Speculation and Spoilers

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15:35 / 07.02.07

Also, oddly, I think Takei gave the most nuanced performance (with the least nuanced lines) of any of 'em.

To say nothing of the fact that the lines were all japanese. By the way, did anyone notice the licence plate number of his car?

16:25 / 07.02.07

No, I didn't. I was too busy watching his FACE.

Tell me it wasn't NCC 1701.....

Jake, Colossus of Clout

17:00 / 07.02.07

Tell me it was.

17:34 / 07.02.07

It was.

20:32 / 13.02.07

To clarify my thing about last week, I didn't have any issue with Linderman being able to coax a confession. It was the fact that they chose somebody who couldn't possibly have committed the crime (and not because we know Niki/Jessica did). Capital trials just don't move that quickly, even assuming Nevada doesn't have an automatic appeal before sending a prisoner to death row. It was just sloppy writing, whether in the choice of words or somebody forgetting the fact that the show's events have taken place in three weeks, not five months.

But... grah. I give up. I love almost everything they're doing with Claire and HRG (almost: the show's got an odd tendency to have problems explode immediately, and mom's complete memory loss is a perfect example: it's been very well developed on background, but without the narrative giving any hints, and, wham! she can't remember who Claire is). It's such a silly, overdone blowup of every stereotypical parent-teenager relationship, but that it works and how it works is what makes Heroes so great.

It's just the other 60% that needs to go.

Parkman's telepathy apparently never works when it can save his life, although it works perfectly when people are thinking about what a loser he is. Is this the lamest superpower ever?

00:10 / 14.02.07

Radioactive semen.

00:22 / 14.02.07

It was the fact that they chose somebody who couldn't possibly have committed the crime (and not because we know Niki/Jessica did).

Which crime are we talking about, here? I assumed that Niki turned herself in for the murders of DL's posse—those bones buried out in the desert. DL himself had been in prison, charged with those murders, for (I think) two years when the series began. Two years isn't such a long time to get somebody through the justice system and onto death row.

01:02 / 14.02.07

Hm. I hadn't thought of that. I'd always assumed she'd turned herself in for the guys she killed in her garage. They've never really said, have they?

The timeline's fuzzy on the DL/Linderman cross, but it wasn't two years before the pilot. In Six Months Ago, DL's a free man. Six months is still a bit of a stretch from crime to death row, but isn't nearly as laughable as I was assuming.

Triplets:

Radioactive semen can make atomic superbabies, which are like only two or three generations of inbreeding away from full-blown atomic monsters. I know you want them now, but even late atomic monsters are much cooler than Parkman, who, for all we know, discovered his telepathy when somebody was offended by his refusal to courtesy flush.

07:44 / 14.02.07

Well, there's two kinds of radioactive semen. Good radioactive semen and bad radioactive semen. Bad radioactive semen can kill people. Will kill people. People like your wife. You're. Loving. Wife. Whereupon, no doubt, you will be forced to spend issue upon issue crying/climaxing/crymaxing in the rain about your dirty juices which, obviously, should only be enjoyed by a few boxes of kleenex or the welcoming smile of a woman who's surname is jpeg.

miss wonderstarr

08:22 / 14.02.07

I don't know if this has been asked, but why if Claire is the daughter of a flyer and firemaker, does she have regeneration abilities? I thought this show worked on some kind of pseudo-scentific genetic theory.

09:21 / 14.02.07

Not really. The most irritating thing about the show is the way the science crap is incredibly weak - but then that is unsurprising for a show that owes so much to xmen. I especially like the way that the mutants are tracked by some kind of genetic profile, tracing their geographical location by their DNA. Personally, I think it would be simpler to just use the phone numbers they provided when they took the superhero test.

Thats just nitpicking, in the end, since the story has to take precedence. The real thing that nags at me with this kind of show is that I'm always a bit suspicious of the fact that there might be an element of social Darwinism being implicitly embraced. This is a criticism of any super hero story, I suppose, but that doesn't make it any less apt in my view. The idea that there are a few individuals who are simply superior to the vast majority is one that tends to pass without remark, but it strikes me as very much a key component of individualistic and even laissez faire capitalist ideology. Of course here, as in many other examples, this is tempered with a morality of philanthropy - these super people are morally obliged to look after the rest of us - but the basic point still stands, I think.

17:07 / 14.02.07

Well, there's two kinds of radioactive semen. Good radioactive semen and bad radioactive semen. Bad radioactive semen can kill people. Will kill people. People like your wife. You're. Loving. Wife. Whereupon, no doubt, you will be forced to spend issue upon issue crying/climaxing/crymaxing in the rain about your dirty juices which, obviously, should only be enjoyed by a few boxes of kleenex or the welcoming smile of a woman who's surname is jpeg.

Ah. You're thinking of the real world, not the Heroes world in which all women are duplicitous failures who will either leave you, try to kill you, or just not even have the common sense to know to tuck and roll when her suddenly-driverless car is so obviously going to crash into a median.

Ted Sprague is not to be pitied. He's to be envied, because the late Mrs. Sprague is the only woman in the Heroes universe who made a conscious sacrifice (if potentially in hindsight). Charlie, Nathan's wife, mama Petrelli, Niki, Mrs. Bennet, Claire's bio-mom, Simone, Eden, and even that mannish FBI agent--they're all vipers or victims (Claire's an exception because she's, well, perfect). But not Mrs. Sprague, whom we should all revere on this Valentine's Day; she took her teddybear's seed until it killed her. If that's not love, I don't want to know what is.

(the above not meant to make any commentary on any women real or imagined in any context other than that of the Heroes universe or on the nature of heterosexual love in ideal or act)

Here's my senseless prediction for the season finale. It's finally revealed that the only reason the Haitian didn't mindwipe Sylar was because of standing orders; he does and although Sylar is alive, he's forgotten all of his powers and is only a lurking danger to humanity.

Also, season 2 sees Radioactive Ted peopling the world with little atomic Calibans.

22:19 / 14.02.07

but without the narrative giving any hints, and, wham! she can't remember who Claire is

I assumed this was a direct result of the post-Sylar encounter memory-wipe. The last straw that broke the camel's back, you know?

22:49 / 14.02.07

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that Claire's bio-mom looks like a man?

I was waiting for the reveal (a la Transamerica) that she was actually Claire's dad, and that Claire's mum was actually dead or something... But no, instead they went with the boring Nathan Petrelli thing... Unless Nathan used to be a woman!

No, I think that's taking it a bit far.

13:59 / 20.02.07

Peter is coming into his own, which is really cool. The flying bit looked cooler than I thought it would too. The more I see him developing his powers the more I want to see the super fight between him and Sylar. Also, I'd like to see him kick his brother's ass too.

And Simone dies... Doesn't anyone even care? It seems like The Powers That Be are cutting out the fat and getting rid of all the bad actors, which means Mohinder's days are probably numbered.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

14:08 / 20.02.07

Last night I thought it was really good. It surprised me. Simone's death, Parkman and Nuclear Boy teaming up and going to Creepy Dad's house. Niiiice.

Oh, and I like that Peter's starting to kick a little ass. I was tired of him being a wuss.

20:51 / 20.02.07

Stan Lee! Now that´s a surefire sign that Hiro´s choice to go alone was the right one!

01:36 / 21.02.07

Yep, +1 to Hiro's karma there, to be sure.

I kind of like the thought of Peter being unhinged by Simone's death and losing his control of his powers, just like his dream.

03:57 / 21.02.07

Wasn't Simone in Peter's dream?

04:35 / 21.02.07

Wasn't Simone in Peter's dream?

Yeah, but hasn't the dream already changed once or twice to suit the changing plot?
I think the dream is only half-premonition and half a reflection of peter's subconscious.

For instance, if Claire is in New York at the time of the blast, what are the chances she'll still be in her cheerleader outfit? Yet, that's still how Peter sees her, 'cause that's the main way that Peter has seen her.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

17:35 / 21.02.07

I had some questions about that too as in Peter's dream, Isaac is holding Simone back, keeping her from going to Peter.

17:54 / 21.02.07

Well, you know, by putting a bullet in her chest he's pretty effectively keeping her and Peter apart...

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

17:57 / 21.02.07

I always go for the literal, don't I?

08:50 / 22.02.07

Did anybody else notice in the latest episode that the painting of Hiro and the Tyrannosaur was back in one piece and inside Isaac's studio?

Silly props department...

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

13:35 / 22.02.07

As I've said before, the Continuity Angel for Heroes is drunk half the time on the set.

14:21 / 24.02.07

I never had a problem with Mohinder, but for those that did is is the fact that he now has a reason to be in the programme (he's Sylar's vehicle for getting to all the other heroes) making it easier to have him there?

17:09 / 24.02.07

Nah. If anything, his being on the show makes even less sense. Why wouldn't Sylar just kill Mohinder, steal the list, and continue on his merry way? Why should Sylar keep riding with a man who is always inches away from figuring out what he's up to, and who may be able to come up with an effective way to counter Sylar's powers (the "cure" that Mohinder hypothesizes)?

The obvious answer is that Sylar is a whackjob who likes to fuck with people and he's getting off on the whole cat-and-mouse thing as much as we, the audience, are. But really, if he means to do his thing in an effective, methodical way, he's being pretty stoopid about it.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

19:37 / 24.02.07

And I was really hoping that the lady with the superhearing would mess up Sylar a little before dying. Even she said so. I was hoping for something.

05:24 / 25.02.07

Well, her iPod messed with him a little after he killed her... Is that enough?

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

16:32 / 26.02.07

Not really.

02:05 / 27.02.07

Tonight's Ep was pretty cool. Showing more about "The Company", and Claire's father's past. The flashbacks with Dr. Who are always good, as that Eccleston mofo just makes his scenes interesting, with that crrrraaazzzy accent that I'm just such a fan of.

And The Haitian...At the end of the episode...He goes DEEP.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

17:41 / 27.02.07

It was pretty good. I like seeing Eric Roberts play assholes because he does them so well. And of course, Eccleston shines. How can he not?

It sucks because I'm watching it regularly and when the Boy calls during the last fifteen minutes, it's all I can do not to shout spoilers at him.

19:05 / 27.02.07

Nice to see an episode that concentrates on one story and isn´t all over the map like most episodes. I had completely forgotten about Peter Petrelli, Simone and the painter, for example. That last scene on the bridge was much better and heartwrenching than the usual drama of this series.

And with the atomic man in custody that leaves only Petrelli and Cylar as possible nuclear disasters. Although I have to say, I don´t really care for that "future blowing up of NY" they will or won´t have in the season´s finale episode.

I´m glad Claire and Mr Muggles survived that episode, but isn´t everyone except Claire now going to die from radiation poisoning?

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

19:23 / 27.02.07

"Psst...hey, Continuity Angel?"

"Hmm...wha....?"

"Wake up. I've got a question."

"sigh....What?"

"Since Ted went all nuclear in Clairebear's neighbourhood, won't that affect her family and neighbours? I mean, if Ted's wife died and he only had low-level radiation powers at the time..."

"sigh....I don't need this shit right now, okay? You guys wanted a good episode and here I give you one--"

"But I was just--"

"Listen, I'm gonna go have some tequila. Screw your viable concerns."

20:20 / 27.02.07

Just for fun, if Bennett uses the tranquilizer gun he has in the comic in which Sylar is recaptured, he doesn't have to stay in the burning house so long that Claire has to sedate Ted, thus exposing her heroicity to Eric Roberts.

Hell. If at some point during the hour he's at Primatech and on the way back to his home in which a radioactive man is quite willing and able to kill his family in a moment's notice, he thinks to prep the syringe rather than walk into the house with an empty needle and a bottle of tranquillizer, Claire's safe at home, he still has the perfect partner, and he doesn't get gutshot.

But those Sam Raimi loving shakey-shots of the front door made me all warm and squirmy inside, and the first 45 minutes were pretty fantastic.

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