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Heroes -- Speculation and Spoilers

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Kali, Queen of Kitteh

20:29 / 20.10.06

There's been a good deal of interesting theories and such-like bandied about the Internet these past couple of weeks about this show. Here are some I've learned--and if you have found others, please post:

*Niki's husband D.L.'s power is phasing. And apparently he, like Sylar, is one of the few heroes who is full possession of his powers.

*Did anyone else notice the weird DNA code that keeps popping up? In Suresh's computer readings, on the spine of one of Claire's schoolbooks, and on Alter Ego Mom's shoulder?

*Hiro from the future may not be who we think he is.

*There is the strong possibility that Glasses Man and Bald Telepath are actually the good guys. The latter performs deep cleaning on the heroes--because next episode Matt Policeman is safe back at home and able to control his powers. It is posited that they alone know how to uncap each hero's potential.

*Two more heroes will be introduced in a couple of episodes. An East Indian woman and her son.

*Suresh's little pixie friend has powers herself.

*Peter's ability to "absorb" the powers of others has consequences.

*The creator has hinted that Sylar may be someone we've already met.

20:48 / 20.10.06

*Niki's husband D.L.'s power is phasing. And apparently he, like Sylar, is one of the few heroes who is full possession of his powers.

What makes him so special? Has he interacted with Mr. Bennett/Glasses Man before?

*Did anyone else notice the weird DNA code that keeps popping up? In Suresh's computer readings, on the spine of one of Claire's schoolbooks, and on Alter Ego Mom's shoulder?

It took Kali's post for me to find it but sure enough...

*Hiro from the future may not be who we think he is.

In what capacity?

*There is the strong possibility that Glasses Man and Bald Telepath are actually the good guys. The latter performs deep cleaning on the heroes--because next episode Matt Policeman is safe back at home and able to control his powers. It is posited that they alone know how to uncap each hero's potential.

If this speculation is true, it's incredibly awesome. Certainly makes Glasses Man's involvement with Claire that much more interesting.

*Suresh's little pixie friend has powers herself.

Hopefully it includes the ability to slip out of really the worst lines of the show.

*The creator has hinted that Sylar may be someone we've already met.

Nothing much to add to that besides... Ooooooo

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

21:25 / 20.10.06

I think D.L. has probably had interaction with Glasses Man. And since Alter Ego Mom has a kid with him, god knows what his potential power is.

I like the idea that the "bad guys" might not be.

miss wonderstarr

21:26 / 20.10.06

If Glasses Man is a good guy, I don't know why he does the right thing in such a creepy way. (There was that moment at the end of #2 I think, where he sat muttering to himself in sinister undertones "Oh yes, Claire... I'm very, very sorry I have to do this", almost bursting into a MUAHAHAHA.)

I'd say his performance has cued us so much to think of him as a villain that it'd be a cheat for him not to be one. I'm not sure if the way he's been set up could be revised retroactively, if you see what I mean.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

21:41 / 20.10.06

I think that no matter what Creepy Glasses Guy does, good or bad, it's just going to be, well, creepy.

miss wonderstarr

21:59 / 20.10.06

Maybe it's like the way the Others are supposedly (ambiguously) the Good Guys. In fact, if that was a forthcoming twist in Heroes, it would almost be too similar to exactly the same question mark over the bad guys in Lost.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

13:10 / 21.10.06

Well, the guy who created Heroes did do his time on Lost so that may not be too far off the mark.

miss wonderstarr

09:47 / 22.10.06

Also, everyone's jumping from Lost to the liferaft of Heroes before the former jumps the shark, so... yeah.

Yotsuba & Benjamin!

14:43 / 22.10.06

"Really?"
- Stan off South Park

I find Heroes really lacking in the spit and polish that makes Lost so enjoyable. The performances are terribly flat (Milo was never this bad on The Gilmore Girls). There are cool moments here and there but overall it's just a little too half assed. Lost makes mistakes, but it's always using its whole ass. (And it looks so much nicer.)

Elijah, Freelance Rabbi

19:12 / 23.10.06

My speculation:

Future Hiro is Hiro, but from a future where the Heroes were unable to stop the bomb from going off. He came back to find Peter to try and change history.

"Save the Cheerleader" refers to saving Claire from herself, because she sets off a nuke in an attempt to actually kill herself.

They writers will try and make us think that Sylar is Glasses Guy, but he isn't, and we havent seen him yet.

Sylar uses a process taken from the scientist to give himself the powers of the people whose brains he takes.

The symbol that keeps popping up bothers me. I figured that bald black guy is Mrs Hyde's husband because he had the symbol on a neclace and she had the tattoo. It pops up just about everywhere.

I had been thinking that the eclipse somehow unlocked everyones powers, the idea that it was a 'global event' and that our main characters were all looking up when it happened.

22:56 / 23.10.06

I think you're on the money on all of these except:

"Save the Cheerleader" refers to saving Claire from herself, because she sets off a nuke in an attempt to actually kill herself.

I can't really see Claire trying to kill herself and taking an entire city with her in the process. She wasn't trying to kill herself when she crashed the car and if the guilt of that (if she even has any) leads her suucide I would also make her more careful with other people's lives, I'd think.

I have another theory that might be a bit far fetched for this show but... what if the eclipse isn't an actual eclipse but the blotting of the sun by the mushroom cloud of the bomb. The radiation of which (working with Hiro's time manipulating powers) is what gives them all their powers.... Children of the Atom and such.

Elijah, Freelance Rabbi

00:14 / 24.10.06

yeah, the claire killing herself thing was a stretch.

Rewatching the last episode, when Nicki is in the elevator she says "Nicki's not here right now" and then "If you ever threaten OUR son again..."

What if Nicki's Ms. Hyde is actually her husband somehow controlling her body (or if bald black man isn't her actual husband is in her head)?

Jared Louderback

05:05 / 24.10.06

I'm betting that they have to save the Cheerleader from Sylar or Cylar or... however you spell it. The painting and the scene the painting was dipicting showed her running away from an ominous shadow, and so far they have been ramping up Sylar as the main villain... unless she is running from glasses guy, but I think (hope, anyway) that he is a good guy.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

13:28 / 24.10.06

People, Bald Telepath is NOT Alter Ego Mom's hubby. The actor playing her hubby is Leonard Roberts, best known as a member of the Initiative on Buffy.

Elijah, Freelance Rabbi

14:20 / 24.10.06

Once I saw a picture of him I knew I recognized him from somewhere.

Newest baseless theory:

Glasses guy is part of an agency/secret society who are creating dossiers on all the currently powered people to use during the inevitable human vs hero war.

DL can apparently phase through walls, and it looks like next week he and Nicki have a throw down.

My guess is that Hiro and his sidekick are driving because they need to stop in Texas to save the cheerleader, something they failed to do in the 'original' timeline, which is why Hiro went back to talk to Peter.

I am loving this show.

Elijah, Freelance Rabbi

14:21 / 24.10.06

Also, Sylar is the one they need to save Claire from, when peter finished the painting her arms wer cut off and her head was open.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

14:23 / 24.10.06

Imagine what D.L. and Alter Ego Mom's kid can do.

I am still of the opinion that Creepy Glasses guy is actually on the side of good.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

14:24 / 24.10.06

So can we hazard a guess that Sylar is also killing heroes, taking their brains, absorbing their powers? And if he had Claire's brain, then indestructible he would be.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

14:32 / 24.10.06

A frequently appearing symbol linked to the new heroes strongly resembles a stylized RNA molecule. This symbol has appeared numerous times and is frequently in some way related to a hero:

In the swimming pool at a double homicide crime scene in which Matt Parkman was involved.
As a recurring shape shown scrolling across a laptop screen in a genetic profiling program created by Chandra Suresh.
On a drawing done by Peter Petrelli.
Frequently painted by Isaac Mendez.
On a post-it note on the map in Mohinder Suresh's apartment.
Written on a geometry textbook owned by Claire Bennet.
Written on pictures in Sylar's apartment.
As a tattoo on the shoulder of Niki Sanders' alternate personality.
Engraved on the hilt of Future Hiro's katana.
Printed on the front of Chandra Suresh's book.
Printed on the upper left corner of the 14th issue of '9th Wonders comic book, written by Isaac Mendez (The 13th issue that Micah was reading did not have the symbol).
A necklace around Mr. Bennet's special assistant's neck.

Elijah, Freelance Rabbi

18:08 / 24.10.06

Did you also notice that the monster from the cover of Micah's comic book was Hiro's computer desktop?

I am liking this show a lot.

ORA ORA ORA ORAAAA!!

16:33 / 25.10.06

I just watched the first four episodes in a row, and it's late, but, Elijah, I don't think the eclipse can have triggered the powers of the heroes. I'm pretty sure that Isaac had paintings which were future-predicting before the eclipse (he certainly had a picture of the eclipse, before the eclipse).

Elijah, Freelance Rabbi

16:46 / 25.10.06

Good point Red, I guess the looking at the eclipse scenes work just as well to show that all the Heroes experience the same thing at the same time, a kind of way to show them all starting at the same point.

17:47 / 08.11.06

Buttergun- As for the other new special person last night...the nuclear reactor guy. Hmm...might he have something to do with the New York explosion being promised/threatened in the upcoming weeks?

Grant- Niki kills reactor guy in New York. New baseless speculation. Because reactor guy (Sturgeon, as in the SF writer?) is threatening son.

I just got an image of Kingdom Come when Magog splits Captain Atom and he goes H-Bomb in Kansas. That would be great. I really hope it’s Nikki who does it too. I do like her in a hulk, what’s-this-psycho-going-to-do-now kinda way.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

18:15 / 08.11.06

This past episode confirmed my earliest suspicion that Micah has powers too.

21:47 / 08.11.06

Yeah, technokinesis.

00:45 / 09.11.06

yeah, nuclear guy was totally out of left field if they aren't planning to use him later on.

he even mentions he doesn't know 'what would happen if you shoot me.. i might explode like an atom bomb'

I'm kinda wondering what the deal is with peter and the dreams. it's probably a power he's absorbing from someone else. mohinder perhaps?

Jared Louderback

05:55 / 09.11.06

Man, Thoth, that is exactly what I thought about.

The new adverts for next week seem to point to Horn-rims joining the good guys, or at least that is how I am reading it.

07:01 / 09.11.06

The stuff earlier about Sylar eating powers and the potential consequences of him eating Clare's powers and becoming indestructable seem to me to have been skipped over too quickly. It seems entirely possible to me that this is precisely why she has to be saved, and why so much rests upon it. That at some point in the future, the one thing that that stops them from defeating Sylar is the fact that he's totally indestructable. In the meantime, I'm completely loving the fairly obvious but surprisingly often not shown implications of the cop having telepathy - with all his illusions about his life being ripped away as he finds out what's actually going on around him.

14:07 / 09.11.06

Yeah, I still think the Cheerleader business has to do with Sylar eating her brian and becoming unbeatable. The painting Peter helped finish pretty much shows as much.

I also think that Peter's the only "hero" that can stop Sylar because when he come close to him he'll have all his powers. Of course Peter is going to need to step up and come into his own, because Sylar has been using his powers for a lot longer.

14:35 / 09.11.06

Yeah, the telepathic cop thing seems to be being told really well -- if you were to unentangle all the storylines, his might be one of the more interesting ones. As it is, it's a little bitty episode to episode, since the mood seems a bit different from the others. He's not concerned with doom in New York, he's concerned with not going nuts.

How is wikipedia getting synopses of upcoming shows? Are staff writers contributing to wikipedia?

ORA ORA ORA ORAAAA!!

11:22 / 10.11.06

I'm personally pretty sure that nuclear man will be found dead in his holding cell, next episode, with his brain eaten. Sylar won't go nuclear until he's already invincible, because his job is to be the ultimate survivor (he's not going to kamikaze, because it goes against the show's setup of survival through evolution).

The detectives will hear about the invincible girl, and realise Sylar needs her before he blows up, and that's how they'll get involved (sylar will probably be the way in which they find out about the cheerleader, also).

That's my theory, which isn't really much of a surprise ending theory, really...

22:11 / 18.11.06

I still think the Cheerleader business has to do with Sylar eating her brian

That just sounds so rude.

Can you lovelies speculate a little on how 'Papa' (pass the sick bucket) Suresh met Sylar and what the dilly-o was going on with those two? I concur that Hiro from the future looked like he came from a future where they hadn't managed to stop the bomb, but then if he can stop time et al, why doesn't he just stop it at the Claire death moment? Do we think that Sylar can stop time too, so it wouldn't work?

I'm really liking the 'Sylar is Peter Petrelli from the future' idea. Is this baseless speculation or is there something somewhere which points to it?

02:08 / 19.11.06

If Hiro went back a year or two to get the waitress, then the Hiro from the future might not be from that far in the future. He's older because he looped.

Or, I suppose, he could be causing a rift here.

I wanna know who's been MAKING the heroes and how. Although why would do.

Papa pass the sick bucket may have met Sylar in a sleep experiment thing or an academic conference I suppose -- guessing Sylar escaped somehow (or was unwittingly released) by a research team affiliated with whatever Glasses Man is working for. The Glasses Man Agency (GMA) found/sponsored/inherited the research project.

I'm thinking gov't remote viewing is involved -- a GMA remote viewer saw the nuclear blast or similar, and other scientists were working on creating/sharing powers. Sylar was either a test subject or a researcher or both. The brains would be, I dunno, reservoirs of the magico-genetic stuff (stem cell material?) that Sylar either knows how to or has an ability to absorb.

So, either a colleague of Papa sick bucket or a test subject of a colleague.

02:12 / 19.11.06

By the way, was the waitress gifted with an eidetic memory, or was it just a gift for languages? The crossword puzzle clue was some Hindi thing, wasn't it? (I was half watching, half selling stuff on eBay, so I can't remember.)

miss wonderstarr

07:23 / 19.11.06

She also knew Oscar winners from the early 80s and said she'd been remembering everything she read recently.

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