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Evil Scientist
13:49 / 05.09.06
I think it'd be a shame if you left over this Kali.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:58 / 05.09.06
Indeed.
 
 
Ganesh
14:02 / 05.09.06
Sleep on it, Kali. Let your current fights-in-the-Real-World mood pass.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
14:03 / 05.09.06
I'll do my best. I'm a bit moody right now, which is a shame since I had a bloody marvelous time at the convention.

I'm just sort of shocked by the ire and backlash I read first this this morning.
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
14:03 / 05.09.06
Kali hang around it's just ignore the bad threads and if need be the bad posters. There's more than enough people to talk to.
 
 
pointless & uncalled for
14:05 / 05.09.06
If Kali is refering to the flirting thread then I have to sympathise, that thread is pointed and unbalanced.
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
14:22 / 05.09.06
It looks horrible, I'd agree but remember there are relatively few people posting on the thread.
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
14:31 / 05.09.06
Is it me or has Barbelith been living under a microscope for about a month or so?
 
 
William Sack
14:31 / 05.09.06
I thought it was a proctoscope.
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
14:43 / 05.09.06
That would explain the funny feelings I get when I post.
 
 
Ticker
14:49 / 05.09.06
I took last week off from the 'lith except to check into the luv-cd thread, as a collective art project I felt a responsibilty to keep stirring the coals.

On one hand it was great to check in today and see some sizzling activity in the Temple (trouser summoned my attention by using a quote of mine) on the other I felt a sort of repulsion with the flirt-issue.

Another poster had sent me an email to my outside address about 'something in the water'. I haven't been a part of the board for long enough to comment on its cycles but there has been a weariness detectable perhaps only in the low reserves of tolerance.

I got my film back of the barbe-meet at the beginning of August and those pictures reminded me why I have become a happy barbe-addict. Joyous images of people from all kinds of places conversing, paying attention to strangers-now-friends, and being silly.

I love this board and the community it feds and for me that means not using it haphazardly and not dumping my toxic asshatery on it.

So perhaps less posts and less visits from me so I can be more thoughtful and present when I do post.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
15:08 / 05.09.06
something in the water

The last couple of times I've had meetings with Barbetypes irl, this has definitely come up. Things do seem to be more tense than a while ago. That said, I've been finding the same is true in most areas of life at the moment, not just Barbelith. I was hoping it was just the hot weather, but it seems to me (and may not to anyone else, mind) that everyone's a bit edgy, both online and off.

Which is a shame, cos I'd finally got my head into roughly the place I've been aiming for for ages- but this extra layer of tension it's acquired has kind of taken the fun out of it.
 
 
Disco is My Class War
15:15 / 05.09.06
I hope Illmatic comes back. Although I only just realised, through Kit-Kat's post, that Illmatic is now Pegs.

And Kali, I hope you don't leave either. For me, and i think for a lot of other people, it's not you personally that the ire was directed at -- it's more about behaviour. (And concern, of a kind.)
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
15:33 / 05.09.06
I understand that, Disco, I do. And I appreciate everyone's concern, but some of the comments directed towards DM, and in addition, myself, were flat-out nasty.

Despite all that, I harbor no ill will towards anyone who said those things. I just feel a little queasy over the direction the board seems to be taking.
 
 
Kiltartan Cross
16:29 / 05.09.06
Stick around, Kali, do. And hopefully Illmatic will make a comeback, it's been done before.
 
 
Olulabelle
16:42 / 05.09.06
Kali, I have contributed to the flirting thread and if my comments are part of what has upset you then I am deeply sorry; I would hate you to leave the board if it had any relation to anything I have posted.

In the past I have been the subject of discussion in a thread over in policy, one that has made me feel uncomfortable and upset but I think one way to get past that is maybe to try and engage with the subject in question. Leaving the board is a last resort surely?
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
16:49 / 05.09.06
I'm doing as 'Nesh, suggested and sleeping on it.

I mean, not now obviously. I am at work and they'd probably frown at that.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
20:47 / 05.09.06
I didn't post the the flirting thread, but that particular flirtation did have me concerned.
I suppose I've known you, Kali, on and off, for about six years. And, for a fair amount of that time, Barbelith has been a place where the mechanisms of your self-presentation have been ... challenged? Maybe just not _prioritised_. As Olulabelle says, you present as highly sexual, or more precisely highly and sometimes inappropriately sexualised. Barbelith was a place where, largely, that exchange of sexual contact for male attention was not generally agreed to as default. Your statements were not simply salivated over or accepted as defining you, but rather discussed. At times, you were pulled up for being monotonous or threadrotty. People were asking you what _else_ you were apart from your sexual display. It was an interest in a broader you.

Enter Dead Megatron, who does not so much offer male attention as spackle the walls with it on a half-hourly basis, and that paradigm smashes back into place and gets locked down solid. The possibility of Barbelith as transformative space has been shut off, and it just feels rather saddening. Of course, you're getting what you want, so it's not a privation in that sense, and there's a balance between healthy and tasty - nobody loves granola all the time. Nonetheless.

Of course, I am a withered old man with no love in his heart. But my ass is like steel.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
20:56 / 05.09.06
I would like to think that I am something more than just an exaggarated sexualized character around here, but I suppose if I have made the bed, then I must lie in it, shouldn't I?
 
 
Ganesh
20:57 / 05.09.06
Bad metaphor, Kali.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
20:59 / 05.09.06
Just realized it, 'Nesh, but the first thing that came to mind.
 
 
Ganesh
21:00 / 05.09.06
Indeed.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
21:00 / 05.09.06
Oh.

Ha ha.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
21:09 / 05.09.06
I don't think that was what Haus was saying, Kali.

For my part, I'm sorry if you felt attacked. I still stand by my opinion that some of the public interaction between yourself and DM was, at the very least, better off not being public, but I wouldn't want you to leave the board on account of anything I've said or done.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
21:46 / 05.09.06
No, it wasn't, for the record, but I must sleep.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
10:59 / 06.09.06
I was just working on this post for policy about bullying and "playing to the crowd" rather than just addressing points, and the nefarious etc. etc. of putting your cleverness in throwing insults ahead of your willingness to respectfully debate ideas...

...when it occured to me that golly, I could be working on a novel, or repainting the stairwell, or mowing the lawn, or visiting an art gallery, rather than contributing to a 5000+ word debate on whether or not somebody who has named himself after a traffic accident was out of line in calling somebody who has named himself after a toy from the '80s a "wankstain."

The hand of God descended, and wrote in glowing letters upon the wall, "LIFE IS TOO SHORT, DUDE."

So while Barbelith is a great community, I think I'm going to try to back off the meta-Barbelith a bit. It's easy to get your "virtual" life and self-worth wrapped up in your head to the point that it bites deep into your non-virtual life, and I think the non-virtual stuff is more important to me, right now.

I will be self-restricted to the light and fluffy. At least until I have written a novel, repainted the stairwell, mowed the lawn, and visited some art galleries.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
13:00 / 06.09.06
I've opted to stay for the time being, I think.

I think I must watch what I say very carefully from this point on, though.
 
 
pointless & uncalled for
13:02 / 06.09.06
As should others really.
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
13:09 / 06.09.06
Which is a shame, a little more tolerance would be good from all of us at the moment.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
13:29 / 06.09.06
Agreed.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
13:51 / 06.09.06
Tolerance of what, reid?
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
14:09 / 06.09.06
Now are you following me?

I beleive that tolerance can be for it's own sake can't it?

What would you like me to say?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
14:35 / 06.09.06
Okay then. I'd like you to tolerate anything I say on the board, no matter who else it offends, on principle, just because, and to show your benign tolerance by never critcising what I've posted. How about it?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
14:46 / 06.09.06
Which I think is the problem with proposing abstract nouns rather than actions - tolerance, patience, understanding, kindness, etc. People have very different ideas of what that abstract noun encompasses. Often, they will believe that this personal opinion is, in fact, common sense.
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
14:48 / 06.09.06
No.

Glad we've got that sorted out.

If it's any consolation I feel, not only I but the vast majority of posters here are very tolerant of you. Bask in it for a while.

Now if that reads as a contradiction have a think about why before posting back.

Incidently whilst I respect your unwillingness to answer my PM I am still interested, are we a feuding?
 
  

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