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Its a connection that paid out for me and led to an nde, which subsequently changed my life and gave me more of a focus on spiritual matters, i am not arguing rather relating experiences i have had, which is why i chose emotive words to make the expression.
Something true? In my experience the most truth spirituality offers is direct experience of the self and the world without ideas like the truth getting in the way of experience, now i also see that as a way of cheering yourself up and instilling a little joy into life, but that process may well involve facing a few home truthes about the self. I do think that spirituality that doesnt offer an aspirant joy and happiness in experience is mostly lacking a good foundation. Also anything that forces you into facing home truthes is just plain abusive, imo. Just because something is not true doesnt make it false, it just makes it, it. acceptence without judgement, hard to apply to things but so liberating when applied to the self.
About 6 years ago my own spiritual experience began to inform me that there was no truth (making judgements already!) to christianity or athiesm, i started to see them both as forms of cultural conditioning to be undone, at the same time i took my investigation of other cultures conditioning more seriously to try to gather as many differing view points as possible, to gain as many perspectives, i can see with limited knowledge how these cultural view points also act as a form of conditioning.
I am very intrested in freedom as an experience, systems of thought generally create constraints on freedom for a variety of reasons, atheism constrains with its materialistic focus, christianity with its biblical and god based philosophy, so do african based, indian based and chinese based systems, from the point of view where freedom is your highest value any fixed cultural system is limitation. I am fascinated by and respect them all and many more but dont feel i belong to any of them, belonging and attaching to ideas creates identity with those ideas personified to the forefront of persona, some of my reasoning and expression is borrowed from all of the cultures and bodies of knowledge i have mused upon internally.
Nadezhda Krupskaya has a very good point about external gods, they do in a sense act as control systems, internalised gods that are recognised as self creativity bring more will back to the individual and the experience.
From what i understand just as much result can be gained magickally from assuming either view point, one firmly pushes faith outside of the self into the other, and the other firmly roots faith in the person and there own ability to create and self generate. Yet focus on the forms themselves and the mythic structures those forms are embodied within is a limitation upon creative freedom.
If god(s)become the other outside, they can be used as that great unknown fear, to punish, always watching, spiritual cctv, its not nessecarily the only perception thou, love can also come from nowhere as can joy or insight. whats more important to me is not where the sense of identity of god(s) is placed in realtion to myself, but in the interaction, the intangible relationship, the energetic produced by the perception of self and other, it doesnt matter what the self and other are judged as but how they relate, the quality of relationship, mutual freedom in interaction. i have yet to discover any system of thought that embodies relative freedom, because i realised alongtime ago real freedom cant be contained, not even in words.(let alone gods and magickal/religous systems) |
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