XK - you say you have numbers? Ok, show me your numbers.
Let's look at what numbers will be helpful to both of us
Let's start with Ham Radio operators, and miniature war games. I'm *quite* well aware that there are a lot of females playing MMOs, for example, but seriously, I think that you are putting your own observations of life aside to discuss your models of the world: these fields are, by and large, almost devoid of women because, by and large, chicks simply do not dig it.
Yes: chicks.
Ok first of all I call bullshit on sexist terms. Please stop using them so we can have a productive discussion.
Second of all stop moving the goal posts on 'nerdism'. I can give you numbers of females in various areas of interest to disprove your assumption that there aren't any. I can also give you numbers to show you how our culture represses women in vairous fields. Not going to get us anywhere quickly.
Now, don't confuse this with somebody who was never exposed to "feminism" or gender equivalence thinking. I'm a Post-Feminist, if you like. In my experience the retarded approach which has been taking to dealing with the issues of gender in our culture, particularly in the academic world, are not only completely unhelpful, but their stupidity and lack of observational reality simply beggars the imagination?
this doesn't make any sense. What are you trying to say?
You know why women are a lot harder, on average, to get into bed than men? Start counting calories for reproduction. Take a really hard look at evolutionary biology.
I have. In fact i have a couple of great books here that plainly state all sorts of people reproduce. Your view is your opinion, not fact. what shall we agree upon as suitable facts?
I'm an animal. So are you. No amount of whining about fairness changes the fact that rape is the *core* of a good deal of female behavior not only in the human world, but right across the mammal and other animal kingdom. If you don't think that darwinian factors largely maul, kill and eat cultural considerations, why is it that **REGARDLESS** of "cultural" factors, roughly 10% of children were fathered by somebody other than the person who is called their father?
I happen to have a book right here that blows that out of the water. It's called 'The myth of monogamy' that 10% you're looking at isn't rape derived, it is derived from affairs. Also you haven't really studied Darwin have you? Again t his reads as opinion not fact.
The reason it's the same across the entire human race is because it's too damn important to be left to the forebrain: 10% of kids are "garden variety" because it's something that apparently works in evolutionary terms. Same with homosexuality - whatever the payoff there is, it's clearly important enough to be replicated in all kinds of mammalian species. Maybe it's like sickle cell anemia, maybe it's something vastly more profound, but queer is everywhere.
Again you're not saying anything I can use. You are making a rush of statements not grounded in research. What does 'garden variety' actually mean?
Let me push this harder: men earn 1/3rd more than women. This is useful because women are *biologically* *attracted* to men with money, in the same way that men are *biologically* *attracted* to women with strong physical symmetry and a 1/3 waist/hip ratio. These things are hardwired and culture and personality are forces which act upon this substrate, not replace it.
Men earn more money because we live in a sexist society in which minorities are paid less. Your waist hip ratio info is not founded in the science I have available. Care to share it?
As for whether magic is a hobby for you or a serious profession, I can't speak to your experience, but you don't *sound* like somebody who's seen the same kind of territory I'm discussing, and - from many years of experience - if you haven't started having brushes with anhilation, you're probably in the foot hills.
Have you read my posts? If you had I don't believe you'd be making this statement. Unlike you i have shared my personal work with this community. I invite you to do the same.
And, equally importantly, there's nothing at the top of the mountain. You go there because you must, and for no other reason.
I found a great deal on the top of mountains. We have a few threads dealing with getting out there and doing these things.
I'm sorry if this sounds harsh or unfeeling, but I think it's very very important to really put some things in perspective here. Magic is fun right up until you realize that there is no law to watch your back, and that you're involved in schemes that go back six, eight, ten thousand years straight. If you haven't met the beings I'm talking about when I say "don't give a shit about your humanity" and so forth be very, very glad. Try to keep it that way.
Again it doesn't sound harsh and unfeeling as much as uneducated, uninformed and completely prejuidiced. You are not grounding any of your statements in either personal experience or in varifiable third party information.
On this Nath stuff? Go back and read about Gorakshnath and Maccsyendranath on the Island of Women. Now in the version I know of that story, Gorakshnath realizes that Maccsyendranath has become confused and deluded by the material world, so he kill and skins both of Maccsynedranath's sons and hangs the skins up for Maccsyendranath to see to wake him out of the dream he's fallen into.
I like myths too but not every one of them is suitable for absolutes.
And those are the good guys.
The bad guys are like Stalin or Mao... tens of millions killed in cages by starvation, mostly. Read what the Tibetans say Padmasambhava did to the mountain spirits - boiling their flesh off their bones in lakes of boiling blood, until they would submit to the "dharma" or, at least, his personal version of the Law. Really, read.
Ok what's your point? Are we trading boogie men or what?
Magic of any power is fucked up dangerous shit that destroys your life. You can tell that by reading the biographical accounts of the Golden Dawn as they die in gutters, or the OTO as they go insane, blow themselves to smithereens, or also die in gutters. Why in god's name don't people think this through.
what you are presenting is only a fraction of the magical experience available to people. You're not offering perosnal accounts, only repeating other people's. Everyone has unique experiences and some may share common themes. Howver you are not stating anything useful only repeating the same words over and over.
Now, you might point to exceptions - magicians you know who, over all, seem to have The Good Life. They do exist. I suggest you examine them in exquisite detail and try and figure out what makes them different.
Hey. Ask me how. There's a bunch of them on this board. Have you read their work?
I'll tell you that, in my experience, usually it's because they've sold out to things man was not meant to know and are in the same position as that little light on the end of the Anglerfish's stalk.
Ok I'm getting a big whiff of ficitional horror story informed accounts here. Let's bring in the facts, shall we?Who are you talking about?
You might wonder if I walk the talk. The answer is yes: I've put my shit on the line for years, I've got a material life which includes demonstrated and manifest global change in both the environmental and humanitarian domain and I'm kicking quite a lot of ass right now in my own way.
Ok wheel it out. Let's look at it.
But it is *ferociously* hard and I think that a lot of the reason that we've seen such a decline in the quality of western magical tradition awareness (and, yes, I include chaos, thelema and so on in that bag) is because people have largely forgotten what the role of the magician is.
Or appearently how to discuss these things constructively? I'm not finding *anything of use in this entire post*. Are you just pontificating or what?
We are first up against the wall, first over the trenches, and first into the future. And it's like being the teeth on a gigantic species-level circular saw hacking through the toxic realities of the future to try and maintain a world worth living in. Personal transcendence is largely bait.
Again you are not saying anything useful or specific. It might be pretty but it's a repeat of what others have said.
This stuff does not kick in while you are still working largely with microcosmic energies. The worst thing you can do at those levels is blow up your family's lives. But outside of that, one you plug into the mains, the fun begins and if you have any brains you wish you had simply never started to explore the territory.
If you can't be specific I can't work with you. You've become noise even with my attempts to follow you aren't giving me examples. Do you mean like Ted Holiday?
I'm not even sure why I'm posting this. I guess it needed to be said. Keep your magic within the microcosmic personal-life domain, or expect, eventually, to hit a level of power and capability where you become useful and the enormous group karmas of trying to maintain life on earth in a suitable, happy form simply storm into your world and take over your life.
I'm not sure why you're posting either. what do you wish to communicate to me? That life is dangerous? That magic carries potential dangers?
It's like having a lot of money: you are suddenly responsible for every person you did not feed. Or being very smart, and piddling it away on some obscure passion that helps nobody while people die in the streets for lack of historical understanding or inspiration. You step up to plate and somebody hands you a bat and you're in and you never get out again.
Okay this sounds like you're talking about personal responsibility. Are you having a hard time doing magical work?
If you haven't seen this, you could say it does not exist, it is not there. You'd be dreaming.
In this entire long post you did not state anything I could use to increase my awareness or understanding of the world. |
