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Grant Morrison's Batman

 
  

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Mario
15:17 / 14.02.06
Giant-Sized Love God #1?
 
 
The Falcon
15:22 / 14.02.06
Piffling Continuity Errors Erased miniseries.
 
 
FinderWolf
16:36 / 14.02.06
Now I've got that song from the 90s "Lovegod" in my head...can't remember who did it.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
19:16 / 14.02.06
The Soup Dragons?
 
 
FinderWolf
19:42 / 14.02.06
Yes!!! That's the one.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
23:34 / 14.02.06
You can have multipile infinities, like an infinite amount of whole numbers and infinite amount of fractions between 1 and 2.

Gentlemen, please! It is Infinite Crisis, not Infinte Crises. There is one crisis, which is infinite, yet bounded, since we are already talking about what happens a year later.
 
 
Ganesh
00:19 / 15.02.06
To pair the term "crisis" with the term "infinite", in the sense you are using it, seems to be an oxymoron, since a crisis is, by definition, a finite event. How else might we interpret a paradox like this?

We could assume that the staff of DC doesn't understand, or perhaps care about, the difference between an "infinite" crisis and, say, a "perpetual" one--or even a "perennial" one


That's kinda my point. The term's being used so loosely it arguably surrenders meaning...
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
00:36 / 15.02.06
Are you having a little trouble processing metaphor today, doctor?
 
 
Tim Tempest
03:33 / 15.02.06
Ok, back to Batman here for a second: DAMMIT, IT'S GONNA RULE!

You know, I bet I wouldn't be this pumped up for a comic book if I had a girlfriend...
 
 
Evil Scientist
08:30 / 15.02.06
That's kinda my point. The term's being used so loosely it arguably surrenders meaning...

And what about Villains United huh? There's villains fighting and arguing all the way through it. Tish.
 
 
Mario
10:59 / 15.02.06
Wouldn't Villains United be a great name for a football (aka soccer) team?
 
 
Ganesh
11:02 / 15.02.06
Are you having a little trouble processing metaphor today, doctor?

Ahh, so "infinite" is here being used as a metaphor - for... bounded stuff. Now I get it.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
11:30 / 15.02.06
My apologies, Ganesh. Because I'm not used to having intelligent discussions--I mean, I don't have a college degree or anything--I thought that by restating your point I was indicating that I understood it, and that by then continuing to say some other things I was carrying the discussion forward. In the future I'll try to do a better job of making fun of DC and not so much the respected members of the board.
 
 
Ganesh
11:47 / 15.02.06
Dear oh dear. You seem a bit fragile at the mo, Q.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
12:40 / 15.02.06
isn't the Crisis "Infinite" because the Earths were "Infinite" the 1st time, like in "infinite paralell realities"? =)

maybe I've spoiled the joke.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:18 / 15.02.06
Back to Batman, I also remember Morrison talking about his vision of Batman as being very James Bond, flying around in supercool jet plans, all the ladies love him, charming and expert in every area of supersleuthdom, etc. We saw a tiny bit of this spirit in Morrison's JLA. A Batman who has fun being Batman.

And who has a secret science fiction closet with UFOs.
 
 
FinderWolf
16:37 / 15.02.06
Rich Johnston says this week:

>> I'd been getting shit from some quarters over my "Grant Morrison and Kubert on 'Detective Comics'" rumour first reported here back in June, for a while. Turns out I was right. Just about. Ish. Always a nice surprise.

>> And "Kid Seven" from the Kubert school tells me that Andy Kubert has been showing his Batman pages around, while Adam has been showing round Superman…
 
 
Robert B
18:06 / 15.02.06
I'm catching up on Morrison's JLA run and I have to say that his take on Batman in the series so far has been great. I'm looking forward to more GM Batman.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
20:03 / 15.02.06
Dear oh dear. You seem a bit fragile at the mo, Q.

I'm fussy 'cuz I'm a baby.
 
 
Professor Silly
21:16 / 15.02.06
Holy Crap

I don't know which will prove better: the series or the hilarious discussion of astrophysics here!

...funny stuff....
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
16:42 / 16.02.06
I'm glad somebody understands my sense of humor.
 
 
Jake, Colossus of Clout
18:57 / 16.02.06
Does this mean that DC is ready to kiss the post-Miller dark Batman goodbye? The fanboys will riot.
 
 
Spaniel
19:22 / 16.02.06
No, there will still be room for that Bats, but in the other titles.
 
 
Simplist
20:29 / 16.02.06
Actually, from the comments made at the various Wondercon panels and miscellaneous online interviews I get the impression that they very much are intending to lay the post-Miller Batman to rest, and that this is in fact one of the main goals of IC. As such, they're bringing in Bruce Timm to write Bats along the lines of his 90s animated version, and GM to do his thing, resulting between them in a very non-Milleresque version of the character anchoring both of the flagship Bat-books. Long overdue, IMNSHO.
 
 
FinderWolf
20:30 / 16.02.06
You mean Paul Dini, not Timm.
 
 
Simplist
22:12 / 16.02.06
Indeed I did, FinderWolf. Bit of unconscious supplantment going on there...
 
 
FinderWolf
01:27 / 17.02.06
no problem, didn't mean to be a nitpicker, just wanted to head off people saying 'wait, Timm is writing this??' in a few posts.
 
 
Jake, Colossus of Clout
18:00 / 21.02.06
That's much more daring than I would have given DC credit for. The fanboyswill riot, you know. Dark-Miller-Batman fans are among the most vocal and obnoxious this side of the X-Fans, and they spend the money that keeps those awful bat-titles near the top of the charts on a monthly basis. I wonder what this will do to sales?

Regardless, I will buy the heck out of it. I just hope they go through with it, and don't back off if sales dip a little at first.
 
 
Simplist
20:47 / 22.02.06
Andy Kubert confirmed as artist.

“Well, Batman we put Andy on, because of the particular story that he’ll be working on by Grant has much more of a superhero twist to it, and we wanted to have him on it in particular,” Didio said, confirming that Morrison’s story will be a follow-up of sorts to the 1987 formerly quasi-continuity graphic novel Son of Batman [sic], which saw Batman father a child with Talia, Ra’ al Ghul’s daughter.
 
 
Dead Megatron
21:09 / 22.02.06
I like Dark-Miller-Batman. The one who actually thinks it's funny to cripple a criminal even when he has 3 other options to stop him without harming him (and 3 more that kills, of course), not the one who's always angry and depressed, which is the one who we have been seeing in the comics for the past decade.

I like the idea of bringing Wayne + Talia love-child back. I hope they show him being trained by Ra's al Ghul to be Batman's nemesis 15 years in the future.

But what I'd really like is to re-read the entire No Man's Land series cover to cover in one sitting...
 
 
LDones
01:38 / 23.02.06
So pumped for this.

I swear this is the Batman story I desperately craved when I read Son of the Demon as a teen, even then equating Giant-Sized Love God's Giant-Size Love-Child to his own dadness with his wards and submissives. And lo, one day the prodigal Bat-toddler would return, the once and future fetish king.
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
04:31 / 23.02.06
Okay, I liked this idea until I heard that part. Batman can't have kids- Batman has kids, adopted kids he dresses in revealing costumes and trains to fight evil clowns.
It looks like we've got another Xornvestivism problem for future writers to retcon.
 
 
LDones
04:52 / 23.02.06
He doesn't know he had the kid.

If you read the story (which is classicaly overwrought and filled with the miserable histrionics of its villains) I doubt it will sound as 'off'.

Ra's Al Ghul has a paternal-ish relationship with Batman. Bruce shirtlessly loves up on Talia, then joins forces with Al Ghul's private army to stop a terrorist bent on world conquest, etc. etc. Talia gets pregnant, tying Bruce to Ra's, then Talia has a miscarriage after an attack on their frosty mountain base. OR DOES SHE. Bruce is sad, and the villain dies badly. At the end, it appears that their love child is anonymously given up to a foster family.
 
 
Mario
10:42 / 23.02.06
One should also state that said child was also the justification for Ibn al Xuffasch (aka "Son of the Bat") in Kingdom Come.
 
 
doctorbeck
11:43 / 23.02.06
>I also remember Morrison talking about his vision of >Batman as being very James Bond

there was a lovely episode in the old giffen / matteis JLA when they went to that generic middle eastern country and bruce wayne was dressed in a tux, did some espionage and i think actually said, 'the name is wayne, bruce wayne'

happy days, that version of bats was great...'one punch' etc
 
  

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