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The Bad Student

 
  

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PatrickMM
01:48 / 02.12.05
Definitely seems to be a type on here. I too was a very diligent worker until around 13, at which point I moved to the strategy of do as little work as possible while still doing well. So, I did the minimum all through high school, and it worked out fine for me, I did well and ended up at a good college, where I'm actually at now.

Looking at these responses, I can definitely see how in a couple of years I could be saying that I could have done much more at college. I always start the semester planning to do all the reading and then as time passes, I slip and end up only doing the reading in the classes I like, which are usually just the film courses. Similarly, I always want to do more socially, but it's much easier to just stick with the safe bunch of people I know than try to reach out for more.

But, I certainly don't regret not doing more. It caused some problems when I lived my entire life by that philosophy, but in terms of school, I did do a lot for the stuff I was interested in, and I certainly haven't been hurt by not knowing much calculus. My sister was someone who did an absurd amount of work, a Hermione Granger as some would say, and she was always unhappy and breaking down, claiming she would fail even though she ended up as valedictorian. So, I'd rather be happy and get the A-/B+ than go for the A+ at the expense of mental stability. Because once you get the degree, how you got there is pretty much moot anyway.
 
 
grant
03:48 / 02.12.05
Heh. I leave this thread alone for awhile and grant explains our alma mater much better than I could have done. Thanks.

Well, in the final analysis, every 'lither...
 
 
Gendudehashadenough
10:03 / 14.05.07
Telling folks to read this or that doesn't really convey the gravity of what spending money of uni can accomplish. Though it might be difficult to look back, even personally, at what choices gave way to positive/negative long-term changes much of life at uni has already been covered.

Maybe this is a dichotomy we could look at, because I would describe just about my entire university experience as "relaxing and opening myself" rather than "work". Maybe it's a question of perspective? How many students view their study as "work", and to what extent does that affect their enjoyment of it? And how much of this viewpoint is something the student takes into university with them, rather than the way the classes are taught?

This poses several interesting questions. How do instructors' perceptions of the HELL that students accept ,after they graduate, influence the style of learning they are espousing? Most tenured profs. and virtually every Student Instructor have at least some familiarity with the cost incured due to education accrument vs. the preparation and future-enjoyment of the manner in which they make money.

Indeed, I, along with several others, feel very worried about post-graduate life but only to the extent that I'd like to not repay student loans, in addition to furthering my education even if it means auditing classes just to claim the lecture hours...Pointedly, UNI is not for education, eating drugs, and sex it's for those and more, but at what point do those exact preconceived notions interupt or influence the experience? Seems that, ascertaining from the responses, 'lithers know that uni is a shameful, institutionally-distracting, head-bag that allows for lots of feeling of exactely what was expected.

My uni experience has been very disjointed with a year break betwixt 1.5 yrs CC and coming on 2.5 at the HC under-Graduates twister fuck, in which I worked had the party time I wanted, only to end up socially amiss and mentally ponderous. During that year I saw the inner workings of those cessspools of post-secondary school cliks in which some school-learn, while others think it's a waste and either attempt CC (while working at Italian bistros)or just flat out imbibe themselves into docilely oblivion.Learned quite a lot from them, those. Currently, like most about to, or recently graduated, my inconsistencies revolve around my degree it's uselessness as well as an unforgiving hatred for the societal institution of uni and it's relationship to career. Most people seemingly pick too much social life NOT revolving around career networking, pick to little social life without studying, or study themselves miserable and forget the freed outlook college confers.

That's a fucked up weave, so why are so many of us at least disheartened that regrettable trends continue (like they have for dozens of years) WRT incoming college generations, and at most, erm, regretable? The answer may reside, again in the manner that students are carried, either by themselves or others (rents, instructors, finaid personel, etc.) through college; as in they spend more time blowing GTA smoke rings or reading Flaubert to get familiar with those people who've done that and who now work with the study abroad, community outreach, or gastrofibrulator offices.

Unfortunately, going back to Loomis' quote, I don't, and never honestly have, thought of uni as "relaxing"; though time for opening did have it's stint in the lime'light. I think the perpetrated dichotomy of work vs. opening/relaxing is quite thge false pomp that gets most college goers in the end anyway. That you need to work hard, in order to not to have to work hard later (or make more money hardly working). Sorry, that's a fucking lie.

This is not to say college isn't slacktastic. I'm a lazy studier; that's just the method though. Discourse interests me, always has and yet it seems to be the least explained item of study, when in fact, it determines the entirety of student's career choice. You get, if lucky, Foucault as a Frosh/Soph, but after that expertise is the key, yet without discursive cogency that expertise simply cannot come to full fruition. I'm in my 3/4 year and am just NOW understanding my base, choosen subject, albeit with a tendecy to disregard any and all professors formal views on broad areas field/subject work. This, I know is a mistaken and childish outlook that is wont to unravel very soon, but I can't help but think that my meanderings of the past few years, even if incredibly self-serving...needed to occur on the happenstance I end up with a humanities degree that I hate, vs. one that I enjoy, neither of which bestow even a fathom of career security upon gradution. *hovers about the "post reply"*
 
 
All Acting Regiment
10:56 / 14.05.07
I'm really great. Just blitzed an exam, and have got firsts for all my coursework. Again: I'm really great.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
13:32 / 14.05.07
Ah, but do you work hard or do you party all night and then just breeze through like some sort of genius Stephen Fry/Oscar Wilde hybrid?
 
 
Spaniel
13:39 / 14.05.07
Regina, I want you to shut your show off mouth!
 
 
Janean Patience
14:45 / 14.05.07
Boboss: Sussex University was full of people that praised intellectual laziness and stupidity, despite the fact that we were at a university with a strong academic record.

Ah, the alma mater. If that's right. I dunno, our Latin teacher at secondary only lasted two terms. Anyway, I too was a Sussex student and I don't remember much praise of intellectual laziness. What I remember was mostly actual laziness, students uninterested in their own intellects and students who, frankly, just weren't bright. A lot of the tutors were extremely bad. Just the other week I thought, "I'd really like to learn more about the Spanish Civil War," before remembering hey yeah, I did a whole fucking course on it and learned nothing because the tutor couldn't place words in intelligible sequence. Another tutor, an acknowledged expert on the origins of the First World War, had us spend two precious seminars acting out the September Memorandum. He didn't even comment on my insultingly bad German accent.

I remember students uninterested in learning and tutors uninterested in teaching. I don't remember praise of stupidity but it was certainly there and allowed free rein. When were you there, Boboss?
 
  

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