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Tim Tempest
18:19 / 07.10.05
Haha...Sax, I apologize if I usurped your throne for a moment there. I'm not trying to piss anyone off, but I impulsively decided to do what I thought was the right thing.
 
 
Sekhmet
18:28 / 07.10.05
Excuse me, but could someone verify that I woke up in the correct universe this morning? This one seems... odd.
 
 
Tim Tempest
18:28 / 07.10.05
This better not turn out to be fake. I'm not an asshole, just a proprietor and advocate for what I feel is instictively right.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
18:32 / 07.10.05
Or, alternatively, an idiot!
 
 
Ganesh
18:33 / 07.10.05
Oddman, either you're the GodEmperor of Subtle Sarcasm, or you're, erm... not.
 
 
Tim Tempest
18:35 / 07.10.05
Well come on, what is "Barberoyalty" anyways? I mean, my Grandpa's like...80, and he's not the president just because he's been around a while.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
18:39 / 07.10.05
It can't be the latter. It just can't. That has to be the single most amazing bit of parody I've ever seen on the Internet. Or, possibly, anywhere. It *has* to.

Tell me it is. There's no way on this Earth that anybody could have typed that out and meant any of it. I can accept that somebody might own a safe in which they store comics, rather than, I don't know, actually read the things, but to really believe all of that post... you'd have to be a completely brain-dead, imbecilic, fuckwitted, cuntybollocksed pricktard of the highest order.
 
 
Tim Tempest
18:43 / 07.10.05
Well, it's not like you get rich writing comics.

I'm actually going into Journalism.

I went too far with this, didn't I?
 
 
Tim Tempest
18:46 / 07.10.05
you'd have to be a completely brain-dead, imbecilic, fuckwitted, cuntybollocksed pricktard of the highest order

?

Duuuuuuuuuuuuude.....................
 
 
Spatula Clarke
18:46 / 07.10.05
Just a hint for your journalistic career: it might be a good idea to, I dunno, actually make sure you understand what the FUCKING HELL is going on before commenting on it.

Unless you want to write for the Sun or something. Some rag where facts, research or a brain that works don't matter all that much. In which case, carry on - you're already perfect.
 
 
Quantum
18:46 / 07.10.05
If I was the martian manhunter I'd be rearranging my brain structure right now in order to...

Aha. Ahahaha. AHAHAHAHA!

Oddman you seem nice, Haus wasn't dissing Mrs M and Grant is not Godking of Barbelith. When you said he's a professional writer and he doesn't make mistakes, did you not think 'Hang on, that's a bit of a silly thing to write..'? No offence, but if you feel Grant was mistreated, write a letter to Wizard about it dude.
 
 
Aertho
18:54 / 07.10.05
Oddman = jokesuit, methinks.
 
 
Jack Fear
19:04 / 07.10.05
Maybe. Or, more likely, he is just what he claims to be: that is, seventeen years old.

Oddman: Let’s begin with your suppositions, shall we?

The man who is directly responsible for the existence of this place checked in on us...

Who, Tom Coates?

A point of clarification: Grant Morrison is not the founder or maintainer of this board, or even a regular presence here. Evidence suggests that he pokes his head in every six months or so, if that. When he checks out the ‘lith, he’s a visitor in our house, not the other way around. Many folks here are not fans of his work, and even those that are tend to maintain a proper sort of critical distance from it, and show an ability to separate the work from the man.

In short, we owe GM nothing, and to suggest otherwise is rank adolescent hero-worship.

The man is a writer. He uses words to make his living. When he wants to make a point, he does NOT misspeak.

Dude. I’m a professional writer, and some days I can hardly put the words together to order a fucking value meal at McDonald’s.

GM’s just a guy, and prone to error, as is the human condition. He puts his pants on one leg at a time, and his farts stink after he eats burritos. And OF COURSE he misspeaks now and then. Even in his paid writing gigs, he occasionally has problems presenting himself coherently. Plus he’s out of his mind on drugs half the time, which doesn’t help.

GM has also, in his limited interactions with this board, proven himself to be a bit thin-skinned and kind of an asshole. At the very least—given that he hardly ever reads the board—he’s prone to taking things out of context.

(Come to think of it, you seem to be having a bit of trouble with that whole “context” thing yourself.)

Couple years back, GM shot me a nasty e-mail for mentioning in an offhand way that he seemed to be recycling a pet theme of his for an upcoming project: I was astonished, because I figured that, frank quietly, he’d have better things to do than to try to intimidate somebody whose opinion really shouldn’t matter o him in the first place.

GM’s love/hate relationship with Barbelith is, I think, a very powerful argument for why celebrities should not read their own press. Any celebrity venturing into an online arena where they do not control the discourse (e.g., Warren Ellis or Mark Millar’s boards) can expect to be treated as roughly as anybody else. I repeat: he’s a visitor in our house (or haus, if you prefer). Any hurt feelings or misunderstandings are his own damned fault.

Grant Morrison is my favorite writer, and has been a huge influence on me, and I someday hope to become a peer to him...

...and I’ll invite him to sleep over and we’ll stay up all night in my tree-fort and play Magic: The Gathering and we can braid each other’s hair OMG!!! its gonna fukkn roolz0r!

Jesus, man. Listen to yourself.

But if he were to think that I was just passive while someone dilapidated his or his wife's character, and I said nothing...Well, that just doesn't sit right with me.

“I alone was faithful to thee, Grant! When all the world betrayed thee, I stood firm!”
Ah, great shall be your reward in the Kingdom of Grant, my son.

Here on the ‘lith, though, you just look kinda stupid. And sycophantic. And, to be painfully honest, adolescent.

Barbelith is not about trash-talking our idols, it's about embracing and celebrating and discussing their intellectual products...

Why can’t it be both?

I do agree with you on one point: it is silly of Haus to expect any apology from GM. But it is equally silly for GM to expect (or for you, GM’s faithful servant, to mandate) an apology from Haus.
 
 
Sax
19:24 / 07.10.05
Oddman has indicted to me in several PMs that he is formulating a response to the recent posts following his message, and intends to post within the hour.
 
 
Jack Fear
19:27 / 07.10.05
Shit. Now I'm suddenly afraid that his reponse will consist of the single word "PWNZ0RED!!!!1!"
 
 
Jack Vincennes
19:39 / 07.10.05
I'd like to take advantage of the haitus to tell Sax that the opening post to this thread made arriving at work a much happier experience than usual this morning. Thanks, Sax!
 
 
Aertho
19:40 / 07.10.05
the most sophisticated jokesuit evar.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
20:03 / 07.10.05
Erm....OK , so Oddman wrote an impassioned post and is guilty of misinterpreting the situation. But is there really any need to be so bloody harsh, and quite frankly, nasty?

I really like this place, but sometimes I feel people's ego's and wit can get in the way -- not that I'm an angel, and my track record is faaar from good, but I'm always prepared to at least try and become a better communicator/human being.

I mean, we're ALL reasonably intelligent (some more than others, of course), but I'm sure we've all made mistakes in the past and felt the combined force of our peers ganging up to ridicule us. It's not a nice feeling, is it?

*p.w ducks and covers, and prays for mercy*
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:09 / 07.10.05
You know, kids, Haus has really raised the bar here. Personally, I will no longer feel my life has any meaning until Garth Ennis comes round and shoves shit through my letterbox.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:10 / 07.10.05
(To clarify- buying Adventures In The Rifle Brigade by mail order doesn't count).
 
 
Ganesh
20:16 / 07.10.05
Can someone flame ParanoidWriter now, please, so I can indignantly defend him, in a big Indignant CircleJerkathon type thang?
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
20:18 / 07.10.05
Fuck off paranoidwriter! Ya fucking fluffy, rabbit stroking, tree hugging hippy!
 
 
Ganesh
20:20 / 07.10.05
You know, kids, Haus has really raised the bar here.

Pfft. That bar went up yeeears ago.

*plink*

CRUNCH

Mrrrrrrraaaaaaoooooowwwrr!!
 
 
Spatula Clarke
20:22 / 07.10.05
Well, I'm still far from convinced that Oddman isn't taking the piss, so if I'm going to go out it may as well be in a blaze of glory.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
20:28 / 07.10.05
Well, I'm still far from convinced that Oddman isn't taking the piss

Ahh...If that's the case, then I suppose I'd better put on my asbestos suit and prepare myself for the worst... Damn, stupid, disobedient brain..That's another fine mess...
 
 
Ganesh
20:30 / 07.10.05
What's the context for the sound effect?

CatGlassGate!

(Ask yer parents...)
 
 
Mourne Kransky
20:37 / 07.10.05
Ah, those happy days when George's ire was directed only at Ganesh. Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive...
 
 
John Octave
20:53 / 07.10.05
...and I’ll invite him to sleep over and we’ll stay up all night in my tree-fort and play Magic: The Gathering and we can braid each other’s hair OMG!!! its gonna fukkn roolz0r!

I think it would be extremely difficult to braid Grant Morrison's hair.
 
 
Mistoffelees
20:56 / 07.10.05
Must resist the temptation to mention, that the curtains don´t have to match the carpet...
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
21:01 / 07.10.05
This is the best thread I've ever seen in my entire life.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:03 / 07.10.05
paranoidwriter- it's not actually called "Asbestos Suits", it just sounds like that.

Oh, hang on... you weren't actually talking about Carmina Burana, were you? My mistake.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
21:05 / 07.10.05
Bugger Orff
 
 
Benny the Ball
21:09 / 07.10.05
Well, God just told me that you are all horrible meanies for picking on GM and Oddman, and you should all feel thoroughly ashamed of yourselves.

Then again, God also told me to bomb Iraq and kill all those whores, so I wouldn't pay him much heed.
 
 
Loomis
21:11 / 07.10.05
This is supposed to be a place of intellectual discussion, not a cesspool of slander.

Dude - the barbelith parlare is just silly slang between Haus and the boyz in his gang.

Come on - you know it's that time in a thread to start with the Morrissey. It's the only way out of this mess.
 
 
Ganesh
21:21 / 07.10.05
Unless the man you've grown to be's more Morrison than Morrissey.
 
  

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