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Mourne Kransky
20:44 / 08.09.05
Damn. We missed the photoshoot! Both wearing our leather jockstraps too.

Oh well, Tom has apparently decided that this adventure has been such a success that it will be a weekly event. Next week it's Hello Magazine. I see Ganesh and Xoc pictured at home in their charmingly gothic dungeon, fresh from the hunt (Triplets is the hooded man in the background, wearing one of their straitjackets). I will tell all about the secret vices of Barbeslebs. I know where the bodies are buried. What's it worth, d'you think?
 
 
■
22:11 / 08.09.05
Buried? You have been in my fridge again. I thought it looked a little empty.
 
 
alas
00:33 / 09.09.05
{bumpkin}Ummm, wtf is a "Berliner"? {/bumpkin}

I've been using Barbelith for the past few years,

I love the idea of being a "user." You know, "Really, I can stop any time I want!"

Hey, speaking of late shifting is anyone...
 
 
Sax
10:04 / 09.09.05
The "Berliner" is the newsprint format the Guardian is shifting to - smaller than a broadsheet, taller than a tabloid (I think).
 
 
woolly
10:24 / 09.09.05
yup, sax, is a very nice size indeed.
And, it looks ver ver lovely. Especially G2
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
10:33 / 09.09.05
Is it gonna be a direct swap to Berliner or is there going to be a period when both are available? Cos that was a real bitch when the Times did it- the tabloid was always slightly different to the broadsheet, which meant we had to read 3 editions (two different earlies and a late) ever night instead of two.
 
 
Sax
10:36 / 09.09.05
I notice most of the columnists have been signing off this week (including Pass Notes - shame). Have they got loads of lovely new and exciting ones lined up, do you know, Woolly?
 
 
modern maenad
10:42 / 09.09.05
is there going to be a period when both are available? Cos that was a real bitch when the Times did it- the tabloid was always slightly different to the broadsheet

A bitch for you, but an absolute gift for media studies lecturers who have been able base entire classes on analysis of differences between broadsheet and tabloid layout......and what it might mean.....
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
11:01 / 09.09.05
Sax- this week's Pass Notes on Muffin The Mule was one of the funniest things it has ever been my good fortune to get paid to read.
 
 
Sax
11:03 / 09.09.05
Today's is almost as good. A wonderfully meta pass notes on pass notes. Like Grant Morrison and Robert Anton Wilson having sex in the back of Woody Allen's Citroen Picasso.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
11:36 / 09.09.05
Balls... one of my minions read G2 last night (and it wasn't because I was playing Urban Dead instead, I promise. Well, maybe a little). Must remember to check the archive tonight...
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
13:09 / 09.09.05
Just read this on another message board:

According to the Press Gazette, Alan Rushbridger says that the changes will "signal a move towards the political middle ground for the traditionally left wing paper"... The "middle ground" quote was in a news story and not the main interview, and wasn't as direct speech, so it's probably something he's let slip off the record.

What excellent news! The British newsagent's shelves are filled to bursting with left wing publications, so it's good to see The Guardian making this bold move towards the "middle ground"! I certainly hope this will involve building on the precedent they recently set by using the word 'chav' in news pieces. Perhaps they could rehire David Aaronovitch and Julie Burchill, and give Richard Littlejohn a column as well?
 
 
Ariadne
13:24 / 09.09.05
Silly Guardian. I tried to open a link to see the new front page and my laptop's gone all stressed out.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
22:16 / 11.09.05
Just got it, although thanks to the new format it took me a while to find Office Hours... nice. hefty quotes, sleaze gets a namecheck- we don't really sound too much like tossers at all!

The new format's ace, as well.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
22:30 / 11.09.05
The piece.
 
 
Ganesh
22:46 / 11.09.05
Tt. No mention of arse-wiping.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
22:53 / 11.09.05
Funnily enough, the subject has been raised in the office when discussing the paper's new format... the paper's a little shinier, y'see. Not quite Izal, but...
 
 
unheimlich manoeuvre
22:54 / 11.09.05
I think the Guardian boldly moves towards the middle.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
22:56 / 11.09.05
Having said that, today's Daily Star beats it hands down... I suspect Jane O'Gorman may be on holiday, as "her" answers in the problem page seem very, very out-of-character...
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
23:24 / 11.09.05
"Down the wrist, not across"?
 
 
Smoothly
23:46 / 11.09.05
That's no way to wipe your arse.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
23:48 / 11.09.05
... and other Bob Dylan classics.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
00:29 / 12.09.05
Hold on...

WHERE THE FUCK'S DOONESBURY???
 
 
■
06:54 / 12.09.05
What? I know we dropped our last (non-editorial) cartoon a few months ago, but that's because it wasn't very good. Don't tell me Trudeau is out! [Rushes down the shop]
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
06:54 / 12.09.05
Web site here.

I got an excited call from the Grauniad last night perving over the new format. I'm frightened, buut I'm ready to learn.
 
 
illmatic
08:00 / 12.09.05
Quite liked that piece. Will someone involved in new membership let us know if we get a surge of interest as a consequence?

I think one thing it doesn't get at (which is fair enough as it's not in it's remit, and I, um, didn't say anything about it above), is the intellectual stimulation and access to experts you can get from boards. The Headshop here - at it's best - is really an intellectual powerhouse - and I'm aware of some "prominent" occultists who've posted in The Temple. On other boards I'm aware of (I'm thinking of a reggae board and a "battering people" - sorry "reality based martial arts" - board, you can get in touch with world class experts in the chosen field at a very small remove. The growth of these affinty based communities is something that interests me a great deal.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
08:10 / 12.09.05
It really nails the "dicking about when you should be working" aspect, though. I liked it. And yeah, it would be interesting to see if it has an effect on membership.

Nice one, woolly!
 
 
Quantum
12:36 / 12.09.05
Sleazenation got namechecked. I'm green with envy. And scrubb too (whoozat?).

That's a nice article I think, I love the way woolly spins it so that Barbelith helps you work harder and be more productive, nyuk nyuk. Yep, nice one woolly!

I imagine literally dozens of Grauniad readers are flocking to the conversation right now. Hello there readers!
 
 
Scrubb is on a downward spiral
12:52 / 12.09.05
Scrubb = me! A little on the quiet side recently, but can be vouched for by various 'Lithers who know me in real life.

And also - hello Grauniad readers!
 
 
Smoothly
13:21 / 12.09.05
WHERE THE FUCK'S DOONESBURY???

Fear not, Stoatster. From the Guardian's excellent new Editors' Blog:

For all you Doonesbury fans out there - all is not lost.

After requests on this blog, I asked Ian Katz, the editor of G2 and the man who made the decision to launch without Doonesbury, to explain his reasons. He says G2 is very squeezed for space at the back of the book and it would be difficult to accommodate a second strip. But his mind is open about bringing the man back.

"We felt Doonesbury had a small, committed following but was not read by a large readership. If we're wrong about the number of people who read and love it, we may have to think again," he says.


Get lobbying.
 
 
woolly
13:21 / 12.09.05
Hullo 'lithers - have been working like a freelance machine, I tell you, so sorry for not posting sooner. Glad haven't pissed anyone off completely.

Sorry it wasn't a bit more highbrow, but sadly I'm not very highbrow... which hampers things a wee bit
 
 
Jub
13:32 / 12.09.05
so can you tell us this other publication you work for now?
 
 
woolly
13:33 / 12.09.05
It is my mystery I tell you. Nah. I'm a bit of a whore. I work for whoever pays me...
 
 
Jub
13:39 / 12.09.05
So, will you be staying on Woolly? Or will your brief fling with Barbelith remain just that?
 
 
illmatic
13:41 / 12.09.05
Will you even have time as a person with a "proper" job?
 
  

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