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7 Soldiers: Frankenstein

 
  

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Keith, like a scientist
20:23 / 29.03.06
and possibly The Terrible Time Tailor?
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
20:30 / 29.03.06
He might be the local Seventh Unknown Man, yeah. The Tailor, Our Man Zor, has already been dealt with.
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
20:40 / 29.03.06
Aren't all the seven unknown men pre-exisitng characters?
 
 
Mario
21:48 / 29.03.06
That's what Grant said.

I don't think Father Time's an Unknown Man, tho...there are indications that he's been in charge of SHADE since the mid 60's. That doesn't match their hands-off style at all.
 
 
The Falcon
14:55 / 30.03.06
Apologia to Mario, there. I have no idea where I got Old Man Time from.
 
 
Mario
16:57 / 30.03.06
No problem. It's the sort of slang nickname I could see him acquiring.
 
 
Aertho
23:01 / 12.04.06
Okay, so in Battle for Bludhaven, we're introduced to a very Caucasion man by the name of "Father Time". He's in charge of the secret gov't response to Bludhaven, and orders around "Freedom's Ring" a team of USA symbols in costumes.

So which is it? Black bowler cap fellow is or is not Father Time? Or are both characters Father Time? Spartacus Hughes/John Sublime style?
 
 
Mario
23:07 / 12.04.06
Given that we already know SHADE is involved, there are a few possibilities.

1. Same guy, who can shapeshift/has multiple bodies.
2. Different guys, same codename.
3. The artist didn't bother reading his Frankenstein appearance.

No real answers as to which is right.
 
 
captainkyle
16:12 / 13.04.06
has anyone heard when #4 is coming out? i'm assuming this is what's holding up 'seven soldiers #1,' right?
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
16:17 / 13.04.06
's last week of April, innit? According to the DC site, last I checked.
 
 
Mario
16:46 / 13.04.06
April 26, according to the last report.
 
 
Mario
13:25 / 14.04.06
I have an answer to the Father Time question, straight from Justin Gray (co-writer of the Bludhaven thing).

First, the question I asked:

Probably because the Father Time in Frankenstein was clean shaven, bald, and (apparently) African-American. Anyone know why the drastic redesign?

And Justin's answer, in it's entirety:

We'll address that question but he is the same guy.
 
 
Aertho
13:35 / 14.04.06
Well, my lil mind got to work, and I'm wondering if, since FT in 7S:F#3 is before 8C, and the FT in BfB is OYL, then BfB's FT might be the following year's Baby New Year.



"2005" DCU = African American
"2006" DCU = Caucasian
"2007" DCU = ?

Like Jenny Sparks, only a single year's lifespan. A man like Father Time's seen it all. Well, yeah, if he's born in different bodies yearly.

Yes, I meant to use all those acronyms.
 
 
Mario
14:17 / 14.04.06
That actually makes a lot of sense. Good call.

I doubt he ages from infancy, tho... he'd be pretty useless for a chunk of January.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
19:40 / 15.04.06
Damn, Cass gets a No Life Equation prize for that! Fucking rad, dude. That's probably how it'll shake out, actually, but if it doesn't, well, there's no better explanation I can think of.
 
 
Triplets
12:56 / 16.04.06
Isn't this series, when it comes down to it, like, "Grant Morrison's Hellboy"?

Protagonist with blood/familial tie to the main villain. Secret agents of the weird. Demonic/divine right-hands and occasional wielding of a big fuck-off sword. Gothorror.

Yes.
 
 
LDones
14:02 / 16.04.06
I think the rather intense sexuality underlining these 3 issues thus far is enough to separate it cleanly from Hellboy, which tends to be a lot more... harmless fun, I guess.

Though those Mahnke shots of Frank leaping through the air with big swords to slaughter maneating cows certainly do conjure the Spectre Of Mignola.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
19:43 / 16.04.06
this Frank mini pays a more clear tribute to its Lein Wein origins than HELLBOY, which also drank from this 70s' fountain.
 
 
Aertho
20:08 / 16.04.06
intense sexuality

say what?
Have you mentioned this before? What do you mean?
 
 
Triplets
20:32 / 16.04.06
He turns the pages with his third arm.
 
 
LDones
00:06 / 17.04.06
I'll draw up some more coherent thoughts once the mini's finished, but it's seemed to me that each of these issues has been positively dripping with shameful Sheeda-side monster-sex themes.

Very overtly about flesh, from Mahnke's rough, dripping/oozing pencils languishing over every one of Uglyhead's miserably choked facial pores, to Melmoth waving around his big, fertile wand (a pitchfork with testicles, no less) to control his children-slaves and Frank murdering him to take his place.

And the ultimate emasculation of Frank encountering his hyper-sexed and uninterested ex, violence-as-steam-vent for sexual repression, and being almost utterly flaccid in the face of a new world's schemes and monsters.


I suppose, with the constant presence of mother/father/son/daughter/top/bottom examinations in 7S, you could make the argument that all of the series is informed by sexual themes (and certainly they're present in each mini), but I feel it stronger in Frankenstein than in any of them, even Bulleteer.
 
 
FinderWolf
01:57 / 23.04.06
Loved all the various ways Mankhe found to draw normally cute, now zombified and flesh-eating creatures of nature.

Although I used to love Morrison's unique "AAAUUUU," he overused it this issue. Something like 3 times in one comic? Please, Grant, darling, only one "AAAUU" every few months, 'kay?
 
 
FinderWolf
01:58 / 23.04.06
and we still don't have an actual cover for #4, correct? Has #4 been delayed quite a lot or is it just me?
 
 
Mario
02:39 / 23.04.06
It's on the list for next week.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
05:48 / 23.04.06
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Sadly, it's not.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
11:52 / 23.04.06
Think it's actually been delayed, or are they just holding it back to bridge the gap between now and SS#1, so people won't have forgotten about it by the time it comes out?
 
 
Mario
12:35 / 23.04.06
Check Midtown Comics. It is.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
12:42 / 23.04.06
Holy crackers! Villains United Special made it too!

Hurrah!
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
13:45 / 26.04.06
Someone please read this as soon as possible and explain to me how there aren't like three crucial missing pages in this issue.

QUICKLY.
 
 
Aertho
14:00 / 26.04.06
Give me two hours. You'll have burst by then, no doubt, but that's the earliest I can do it. Can Mario save the day?
 
 
adamswish
14:00 / 26.04.06
First the good news. According to DC's site issue 4 is out wednesday/thursday (depending which side of the pond you're on).

Now the bad news Seven Soldiers #1 isn't out till June 21.

Volume 3 of the collection is out next month which fills the gap for those catching up with the trade papaerbacks.

Just a shame us single issue guys (I sound like some thrid rate politican don't I) have to wait a whole two months to get the climax of the series.

Arse...
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
14:11 / 26.04.06
Nah, I'll survive. Plenty of other great stuff this week.

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It's all this temporal stuff that's confusing me.
 
 
Aertho
14:29 / 26.04.06
That's hardly a spoiler!
 
 
Mario
14:43 / 26.04.06
Ask me again in about 6 hours.
 
 
Aertho
15:50 / 26.04.06
If S.H.A.D.E. was able to piggyback a Chinese teleport signal and reroute Frank to a reciever in Arizona, the same reciever was probably able to give him a short jaunt into Castle Revolving while it was loading the Cauldron. Once smuggled in, Frank went about sabotaging the (six!) Sheeda towers.

That explanation depends on whether Frank still had one arm in the far future.

If he had two arms in the far future, then he lived that long. Weird, and strange that he kept his clothes that long, but hey, why not, right?
 
  

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